If Steve could be resurrected, would you like that to happen?

Discussion in 'Apple, Inc and Tech Industry' started by hajime, Jan 29, 2018.

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Would you like Steve to be resurrected so that he could come back to manage Apple?

  1. Yes

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    48.4%
  2. No

    16 vote(s)
    51.6%
  1. hajime macrumors 601

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    #1
    I know it cannot be done now but if it could be done later, would you like that to happen?
     
  2. AmazingRobie macrumors 6502

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    An even better idea is to force someone who already looks strikingly familiar to SJ to be the companies spokesperson. Making him study old keynotes and home videos until he is exactly indistinguishable from the original. I vote for the comedian, Gary Gulman, as he is already Jewish, already hilarious, already looks like SJ but on steroids. He'll have to be made to stop working out and slim down, but other than that i think he could easily pull it off. Also, if Apple isnt working with Hollywood to bring Steve Jobs back as a virtual salesman at the keynotes, theyre idiots, because what else ya gonna do with all the money everyone is giving them. They sure arent designing and manufacturing better products with it. Bang.
     
  3. hajime thread starter macrumors 601

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    I may be wrong but I think we need Steve's mind more than appearance. Having Tim in Steve's body won't bring the old Apple Computers that some of us loved very much back.
     
  4. MacDawg macrumors Core

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    If we have the ability to bring people back... Steve wouldn't be my first choice
    Not even sure he would make the top 100

    At some point this obsession with Steve Jobs needs to stop
     
  5. RichardMZhlubb Contributor

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    If we develop the ability to raise the dead, the operations of a technology company will be the least of our concerns.
     
  6. tobefirst macrumors 68040

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    I do think that Jobs was better at creating revolutionary products than Cook is. But I haven't once thought, "I wish we could bring him back from the dead."
     
  7. hajime thread starter macrumors 601

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    I hope Apple could develop iResurrate but it is impossible to do that with the current leadership.
     
  8. Tech198 macrumors G5

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    er... best not to think about it.

    Zombies ... The Walking Dead,,,, etc. ... I reckon that would put us out of business.
     
  9. nnoble macrumors 6502

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    Agree with you. It needs to stop now. These people have lost the plot.
     
  10. Starship67, Jan 29, 2018
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    We don't need Steve back. What we need is to realize Apple is changing a bit, however we may be seeing it go back to where it once was. People need to realize Steve was a magnificent spokesman, marketer and inventor. Tim Cook has never claimed to be any of those and is the Companies CEO not general innovator. Now that Jony is focusing on mainly design again. We need a great software engineer once more. I know a lot of people disliked Scot Forestall, but like him or not iOS was more fluid and simply worked when he was in charge of it. Craig is going good with MacOS so now we need a great iOS engineer and things will be back on track.

    Also we need to simply let Steve Jobs RIP


    Edited for typos etc.
     
  11. LizKat macrumors 68040

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    Not only that, it's not all about Steve and how Tim is different to Steve. It's about us, and how much more demanding we are of Tim (and of Samsung, and of the US government, and of whoever grows fresh basil...) than we ever imagined we could be of the Steve running the team that brought us the smiling face of Macintosh.

    I mean how long did we put up with that clunky mouse, anyway? And the noise of the Apple dot matrix printer? Everything is different now. Faster. Rougher. Ruder. More burned out, maybe....

    And it was already happening while Steve was still with us. It's not about him, or Tim. It's about us.
     
  12. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    Something else I read a lot on Macrumors, is the consistent comparison between Steve Jobs and Tim Cook. It's either vice versa, who is the better CEO? Or the obligatory redundant statement "Tim Cook could never be Steve Jobs." They don't have to be the same people in order to establish Apples goals.

    Also, Its not appropriate or a relevant comparison to compare either of the CEOs. They're completely different people and Tim Cook is harshly bashed for his leadership on this Tech forum. I think Tim Cook has done a stellar job with Apple and not everybody agrees with their current path Today, but I have a lot of respect for who he is as a person and his core leadership within the Company.

    Something that we know about Steve Jobs, was he was a visionary. And Tim Cook is more on the financial point of the company's standing. But being that Steve was a visionary, I truly believe that he knew Tim Cook would be the best fit for this company and its overall well-being for the future. Not everybody will agree, but Steve's name being conflated every single time Tim Cook is mentioned is not comparable, and we need to focus on the future of Apple, not the past.
     
  13. hajime, Jan 30, 2018
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    I might be wrong but is there a possibility that when Steve needed to pick the person, there was no good one but Tim was better than others in an aspect or two and he was selected? Just like in Japanese politics, there is no good candidate to be the Prime Minster. They are equally bad. So people just pick one and be done with it. There is also no good candidate in recent years. Whoever be the Prime Minster will be the same. So, people just let the current one stays.
     
  14. BornAgainMac, Jan 30, 2018
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    Maybe bringing someone from the dead is the wrong approach. What about time travel and preventing his death and creating a new timeline? Think of the Back to the Future movies. But he would leave that timeline and come to our current timeline.

    Another option would be if he faked his death and they froze him until mankind had the technology to cure him.
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    What I would like to have happen would be for Steve to review what Apple has done and allow him to cut out things that doesn't make any sense or make adjustments to existing products. Perhaps he would think of new things based on today's technology that people have not thought of yet. He may be surprised at some of the executive positions at Apple and make some changes and maybe even bring back some people that were let go. He might even make a negative comment about direction of the last Star Wars movie.
     
  15. hajime thread starter macrumors 601

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    When I said resurrected, I also included Cryonics. I guess another possibility is to bring back another Steve from a parallel universe. Although not exactly the same person but they share very similar characteristics and leadership. Just like Michael Burnham bringing Captian Philippa Georgiou from another universe in Star Trek Discovery.

    Another possibility is to go back in time to prevent the parents of Tim and those obsessed with thinness from meeting each other.
     
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  17. AmazingRobie macrumors 6502

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    Lets be honest, putting music on a mobile phone you can carry in your pocket was just an evolutionary step. Its not Jobs was the first to think of it. Plus, the most important thing that Jobs was good at, that Cook is not, was getting products out the door that work as intended without any hiccups and soothing people when they did. Jobs still sold faulty hardware (Nvidia chips), still sold crap design (iphone 4 antenna), and compounded mistruths and shady dealings all over the place too numerous to list here but you can google until your hearts content. He just made it all seem okay and got away with it through his personality, so what i suggested was not solely for his appearance, but mannerisms and personality as well. A clone, of sorts. If Apple spent a few extra dollars on better quality parts and hired more engineers to test its software on every product iteration it was intended to run on, theyd be fine stumbling through every product launch with just minor upgrades for the next 10-15 years. Instead we get a bunch of overpaid, self congratulatory/back slapping clowns that think every idiotic change they make is "genius". Itunes is crap. Ios is crap and the parts that arent were stolen ideas from the jailbreaking crowd. MacOS gets worse with every iteration. And noone at Apple cares because they just want to sell more units and move onto the next generation where they can cover up their mistakes by discontinuing support for previous products. Thats exactly the model theyre going for and still noone says a word. Sorry, kinda got off topic there.
     
  18. Scepticalscribe Contributor

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    To answer the question asked by the OP in his (or her) original post, in a word, no.
     
  19. hajime thread starter macrumors 601

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    They also sell products with less capable components even they could do a better job. Then, incorporate those components in the next version "as improvements" so people keep buying their so-called "new" products with components a generation behind.
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    Then we need to go back in time to prevent Tim's parents from making baby.
     
  20. Scepticalscribe Contributor

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    Why?

    What a bizarre concept.

    This has nothing whatsoever to do with the question you posed in your original post, which was whether we would like to see Steve Jobs resurrected; and the answer to that is, no, I would not.
     
  21. D.T. macrumors G3

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    The one thing I'd add about this idea of "If Steve were around today ..." is nobody really has a clue as to what he'd do, not do, pursue, drop, <whatever>.

    The technology landscape is very different, some products have hit a serious diminishing returns, some techs can't seem to get traction (even though they're the "next big thing"), while we can use the history of what we do know about him as a bit of guidance, the equation is _way_ too complex (I'd suggest even his age would've had impact, he'd be 64 this year, going on 65).
     
  22. Joe h macrumors member

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    Sure, Apple was never meant to be run by suit wearing money men. Nothing worst than watching an old man on stage, fighting with a demo unit, like my father trying to figure out how to use the damn remote on a new tv. In fact, the last bean counter nearly bankrupted the company. At the very least they need to find a better pitch man, but they probably won’t succeed again until the board room is purged.
     
  23. Relentless Power, Feb 14, 2018
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    His age actually has nothing to do with where Apple would be today or is even really relevant to this thread (Assuming he was not ill). I still think there would have been products that would have launched under Jobs that Others would have scrutinized under is realm today if he was present. Actually, it’s been rumored (No evidence supported) that before the Apple Watch even launched prior to his death, that The watch was his last project he actually had involvement with sometime in 2011, Which many chastised against the Apple Watch saying “It would fail” or “It’s not something Steve would do”and now it’s the top-selling smart watch in the world that outsells the Swiss watch. Again, regardless if that’s true or not with Jobs involvement, The technological changes over the years is not necessarily guaged by Steve Jobs past projects, when the market itself continues to evolve with new technology. Apple just tends to be later with their Product releases after the competition, but they make their products unique in their own way that stands alone with or without Jobs.
     
  24. D.T. macrumors G3

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    Of course it would and yes it is. Read my post, understand the context.
     
  25. MjWoNeR macrumors 6502

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    I don’t think so. I mean if we could have someone resurrected I’m sure we could find someone better than the head of an electronics corporation.
     

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