If Steve Jobs Was Still Here And Involved With iPhone 6

Konvictz

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Obviously I did not know the man personally, but from what I've heard he was a man who did not care about consumers, or figures or money etc but he cared about what he believed.

iPhone is an example of this. It may be behind in some ways against its competitors now, but what it does, it simply does great and that is why I stick to iphone.

This gets brought up a lot, a lot of people are saying this iPhone 6 would have been far different if Steve Jobs were around, is that true?

I personally think if Jobs was around, the actual hardware side of things would have been pretty much the same, it takes years for research and development, this 4.7 and 5.5 inch screen and a7/a8 chips are not just sudden inceptions, they have been in the making for a long time. And no doubt the next few iterations of iPhone are roughly arranged in draft already.
 

Euphrates

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It would be different. Jobs wouldn't allow the 6 to be this bleh. Not a good iteration IMO.
 

wxman2003

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They said he had ideas in the pipeline when he died. Who is to say the 6 and 6 Plus were not his ideas?
 

barjam

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It would be different. Jobs wouldn't allow the 6 to be this bleh. Not a good iteration IMO.
In my opinion the 6 is by far the best iphone ever by a good measure. The only negative for me is the stripes on the back and the aluminum is super slipper. I don't care really as I have a case.

I can do many things with the 6 that I could not do with the 5 just due to screen size alone.
 

Tubamajuba

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It's not that Jobs viewed consumers in a negative light, he just didn't care what they wanted. He believed that consumers didn't really know what they wanted, but they would recognize a good thing when they saw it. Through that, Apple would make money. And obviously they're making tons of it.

Would the iPhone 6 as it is today exist? Probably. Would the 6 Plus exist? I'm not so sure about that. But I can't be sure about that, because who knows how Jobs would have reacted to the Note series and other super large phones? He wasn't afraid to have three different models of iPods (Regular, Mini/Nano, Shuffle), so I guess it's not farfetched to imagine him green-lighting the Plus.

I'll say this- the Apple Watch is classic Jobs.

I think it's worth mentioning that I can't see iOS 8 being anything like it is today under Jobs' watch. It would probably have less bugs, but not due to increased quality control- because it would look almost exactly like iOS 6 and have few if any headline features. Again though, I don't speak for the dead man.
 

Tthomas612

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It would be different. Jobs wouldn't allow the 6 to be this bleh. Not a good iteration IMO.
IMO it's the best iphone iteration. Opinions differ...

If Jobs were here it would've been a 3.5" display and there would be no iPad mini because "there's no market for 7" tablets."

He was a genius but had his faults ... Let the man RIP
 

Traverse

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I doubt he would have complies this soon, but he's dead. Mothers is no point in speculating.
 

realeric

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If Jobs were here, we would not see fandroids saying "Steve is dead. Move on" or ugly thick antenna band. Jobs spent six months refining the scrollbars. He would not allow the band.
 

megalaser

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I'm surprise Jon Ive allowed the antenna bands, the back of the phone is ugly (he could have at least took the iPhone 5 way to do it) but almost everyone will use a case anyway.
 

Cool Pup

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They said he had ideas in the pipeline when he died. Who is to say the 6 and 6 Plus were not his ideas?
That's how I feel. There's no way to prove it, but we've been told that Apple had 5 years of products by the time Steve passed on. There's no doubt Apple plans products many, many years in advance. The Watch was clearly a Steve-involved product and the upcoming TV, if it happens, was one of his magnum opuses (according to him.)

Steve would have likely prevented some of the little issues and bugs, especially with iOS 8, but I can't say I'd imagine the phone being very different. It's still a very Apple-like phone. People seem to forget that Apple products and phones have always been marred by bugs and various glitches — especially the first in the line of a new product type (4.7 and 5.5 inch phones, in this case.)
 

mantan

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They said he had ideas in the pipeline when he died. Who is to say the 6 and 6 Plus were not his ideas?
I think the whole '5 years in the pipeline' line is a myth that was spun to calm investors and customers.

Sure he may have had some broad ideas of product strategy, but technology and the market evolve way too fast for anybody to 5 years worth of products planned out.....
 

Cool Pup

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I think the whole '5 years in the pipeline' line is a myth that was spun to calm investors and customers.

Sure he may have had some broad ideas of product strategy, but technology and the market evolve way too fast for anybody to 5 years worth of products planned out.....
Yes and no. I know a few people in the tech industry of the Bay Area and they say product cycles, even phones, are often 2-3 years in terms of development, testing, and general scope ideas. It's not that farfetched to assume Apple plans ahead.
 

kerrikins

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I think the whole '5 years in the pipeline' line is a myth that was spun to calm investors and customers.

Sure he may have had some broad ideas of product strategy, but technology and the market evolve way too fast for anybody to 5 years worth of products planned out.....
I don't think it was entirely a myth - he probably had ideas and even plans sketched out, and then the people left behind took and molded them for their own use. The man lived and breathed Apple, I bet he wanted to make very sure that 1997 did not happen again.

His biggest potential influence isn't in the products, though, imo - it's in the people he hired, who he shared his ideas with, who he thought shared his vision.
 

Surf Monkey

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Nobody knows either way and it really doesn't matter because he's never coming back. Therefore speculation is utterly pointless.

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