if you are adding memory with the exsiting memory, the speed is 2133MHZ instead of 2400MHZ, for 2017 imac 27',
which is very strange...???
which is very strange...???
You've encountered a common problem when you get third party RAM that is not specifically listed as compatible with Macs.
Nah. RAM is RAM, though obviously get a decent brand like Crucial and make sure the sockets/speeds are correct.
Nah. RAM is RAM, though obviously get a decent brand like Crucial and make sure the sockets/speeds are correct. RAM listed as "Mac compatible" just means it's the right RAM for that machine to avoid confusion for the end user, rather than being officially sanctioned by Apple or something.
Yup. Even if you get RAM that is over spec'd, it may not be fully compatible. Sure, it could be run slower and running under spec but that doesn't matter. Apple expects very specific parameters, and if it doesn't get them, you may run into problems, like the original poster has now discovered.The latency is just as important and that's where a lot of problems happen with Macs.
Right socket, right speed, wrong latency equals
Sorry to tell you, but you bought the wrong RAM.No, I am sure I bought correct RAM from amazon, https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01BNJL8I4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Just insert the new RAMs, 2400MHZ; 32G
Just have the original RAMs, 2400MHZ; 16G
merge them together, 2133 MHZ, 48G
Now, I just stay with 32G the new RAMs
This is apparently a known issue with the Kingston HyperX. See this thread.
Yup. Even if you get RAM that is over spec'd, it may not be fully compatible. Sure, it could be run slower and running under spec but that doesn't matter. Apple expects very specific parameters, and if it doesn't get them, you may run into problems, like the original poster has now discovered.
Sorry to tell you, but you bought the wrong RAM.
Wrong CAS latency listed and it probably doesn't identify itself as being compatible with Apple's expected latency.
The RAM you bought is actually over-spec but that doesn't matter, as it isn't fully Mac compatible.
Read the data sheet for the Kingston RAM. It's overclocked. It lays out specific conditions for the RAM to run at 2400, and it sounds like the iMac does not meet those conditions. You should return it immediately."
No, I am sure I bought correct RAM from amazon, https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01BNJL8I4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Just insert the new RAMs, 2400MHZ; 32G
Just have the original RAMs, 2400MHZ; 16G
merge them together, 2133 MHZ, 48G
Now, I just stay with 32G the new RAMs
If you want to use all your 48 GB RAM, then return the 32 GB Kingston RAM and buy other RAM. Your RAM is CL14. Apple uses slower CL17 RAM I believe.what is the CAS latency for this kingston hyperx? So I should return it?
If you want to use all your 48 GB RAM, then return the 32 GB Kingston RAM and buy other RAM. Your RAM is CL14. Apple uses slower CL17 RAM I believe.
The RAM I bought was Crucial. See above pic. It was actually cheaper than most of the enthusiast RAM but I know I won't run into compatibility issues. I don't like buying store brand RAM like OWC because I'm not really sure what I'm getting.Get properly spec'd RAM specific for the iMac and it will be 2400 Hz.
You've encountered a common problem when you get third party RAM that is not specifically listed as compatible with Macs.
Apple uses slower CL17 RAM I believe.
Yep.
OWC and Crucial both agree. CL17 for that iMac.
Not sure how it works these days, but in the past some RAM would self-identify as being compatible with various RAM timings, etc. regardless of what was written on the paper label stuck to it.Again, the biggest problem with the Kingston HyperX is that it is actually an overclocked 2133MHz part. The iMac will run it overclocked when it is installed on its own but not when paired with actual 2400MHz RAM like the stock memory.
I installed 2x16GB Crucial Ballistix (2400MHz) CL16 RAM in addition to the Apple Stock RAM and 40GB is running perfectly, all at 2400MHz. I assume it is running at CL17, the slightly slower speed of the Apple RAM.
I also recommend getting Crucial, but don't worry as much about the CAS latency as the frequency.
Not sure how it works these days, but in the past some RAM would self-identify as being compatible with various RAM timings, etc. regardless of what was written on the paper label stuck to it.
It is always the case now? Because that wasn't always the case in the past.To reiterate my point, CL is not as important as the RAM frequency (2400MHz) when adding memory to the iMac. If you add good quality (e.g. Crucial) PC4-19200 2400MHz (non-overclocked) RAM with a faster CL, it will just run at the slower CL17 speed of the stock Apple RAM.
Again, the biggest problem with the Kingston HyperX is that it is actually an overclocked 2133MHz part. The iMac will run it overclocked when it is installed on its own but not when paired with actual 2400MHz RAM like the stock memory.
I installed 2x16GB Crucial Ballistix (2400MHz) CL16 RAM in addition to the Apple Stock RAM and 40GB is running perfectly, all at 2400MHz. I assume it is running at CL17, the slightly slower speed of the Apple RAM.
I also recommend getting Crucial, but don't worry as much about the CAS latency as the frequency.
It is always the case now? Because that wasn't always the case in the past.
Not sure about crucial, I used a lot crucial SSD disks before, the ssd disks did have more fault rate than other brands.