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I see DNAppleGold's link to Kindle DRM removal, but that link was for Mac's. I have a PC and while I tried this successfully once, about a year ago, it was a very complex process.

Do you, or anyone else, have a simpler process or utility for Kindle DRM removal?
I'm not into any type of pirating or sharing scheme, I just want to be able to read Kindle books with other non-kindle readers.

I got my drm removal tools from here:
http://stream-recorder.com/forum/download-drm-tools-archive-t7955.html

You might want to check out other threads in that topic for more info.
 
I found that the kindle normally sells for much cheaper than ipads. With the rate at which I spill things I figure cheaper is better for me.

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honestly I think for regular old book reading, a kindle is the best device out there. Not a kindle fire, a regular kindle.

the iPad is great for many things, and I have read a few books on my iPad. But nothing beats a kindle e-ink display when it comes to just reading a book.
 
I have a nook tablet. Anyway, I would not read books on my iPad. I find that the ereaders are easier on the eyes. I would look at magazines, watch movies, but I read a lot so the ereader is better. Hope that helps.
 
The iPad app needs adjustment. The first 4 sizes are ridiculously big. The smallest size is just a little to small for me and the next size up is just about bearable. Need more sizes in between the two smallest sizes. The other sizes are just useless IMO.
 
I found the Kindle Fire to be surprisingly heavy for the size
It seemed clunky to use as well

I found exactly the same thing. We returned the Fire to Amazon less than 24 hours after receiving it.

If I were going to get a Kindle it would be the Touch
e-Ink and the lighter weight would be definitely worth it
And I would only get one for reading anyway

I prefer the regular Kindle over the Touch. I found that it was too easy for me to accidentally touch the screen and turn the page while I was in the middle of reading. With the regular Kindle, there are these nifty long buttons on either side of the device to go forward and back between pages.

It's incredibly light and the e-ink is really easy on the eyes. Plus, the battery lasts forever.....I charge it once a month, and I use it almost every night.
 
iPad is just not a good reader - too heavy and backlit screen (even Retina) is hard on the eyes. E-ink looks just like paper. Really no substitute if you are a heavy reader.

Recommend to buy the cheapest one (Kindle 4). Its the lightest and easiest to use. The touch is extra weight and unessential functionality.
 
.....With the regular Kindle, there are these nifty long buttons on either side of the device to go forward and back between pages.....

..... but if you prefer reading in landscape those buttons would be on the top and bottom :eek:.

The touch is great in landscape :cool:.......
 
...would you buy a kindle? Or do you think the iPad Kindle app is sufficient enough to handle it? Thoughts, suggestions?

Depends if you want a passive screen or a smaller sized device. For reading in the car or something, I'd choose the 3G Kindle over iPad any day. But the retina display on the iPad is nice too.
 
Not if you were sitting on a beach in bright sunlight (as I am currently! :D ) though.

I'm not a 'sit on the beach' type of person. I like the cabin in the mountains and lakes or just my back yard in the trees. Direct sun gives me headaches.
 
I have a Kindle Touch and the Kindle app on the iPad, and use both. The KT is much lighter and more comfortable to hold, excellent for reading outdoors, and I love the e-ink. The iPad app is very convenient since the iPad goes with me anywhere. Syncing across devices means I never have to worry about which page I got to when I switch devices. Works well for me.
 
The Kindle is a muuuuuuuuch better e-reader. I've got a Kindle Touch, and the e-ink and light weight of it make it much easier to read. The iPad's screen is too bright and the device is too heavy for comfortable reading long-term. I'm not a heavy reader, but I can't stand reading on the iPad so the Kindle will do.
 
This is my personal opinion. I read alot of books. I average about 3 a month ranging across every genre (minus romance I guess).

To be honest, after many hours of reading on a LCD screen it starts to hurt my eyes. I prefer reading pages from a e-ink device. This makes the letters look exactly like they do from a book. The negative with that is you need light to read. LCD's you don't.

So for me I have a kobo (Canadian-ish version of the nook), on which I have all my books on. By books I mean only books, no pdf stuff, no magazines.
Of course I still have the iPad that I use daily for surfing, magazine reading, pdf viewing etc.
But when it comes strictly to books, nothing beats my kobo touch.
 
Recommend to buy the cheapest one (Kindle 4). Its the lightest and easiest to use. The touch is extra weight and unessential functionality.

I used to have the Kindle 4 but found it a pain in the rear to use due to the keyboard. It takes forever typing in anything. I sold it and bought a Kindle Touch which I'm really happy with, but even with non Touch I would prefer the original one with a keyboard (even if slightly larger) to the Kindle 4. Everything else was fine, but the keyboard drove me nuts.
 
My two cents- I read books on my kindle touch and don't really use my iPad for books at all. I really like the kindle touch. The only way I'd be reading on the iPad is if I didn't happen to have my kindle with me (that actually hasn't happened yet but that is the only sceniaro I can think of)
 
I think e-ink is superb if you don't need a light to read. If you're reading mostly at night then I'd rather use an LCD.
 
But nothing beats a kindle e-ink display when it comes to just reading a book.
Except when you are reading in a dark room at night. Then it sucks. No backlight, and the "book light cover" lights up the entire room.

For that, I prefer ipad (or ipod) with stanza (red text on black screen) or kindle (white text on black screen), with intensity turned down all the way. Puts out almost no light to disturb your partner. This is the application where a 7" ipad would be nice.
 
Except when you are reading in a dark room at night. Then it sucks. No backlight, and the "book light cover" lights up the entire room.

For that, I prefer ipad (or ipod) with stanza (red text on black screen) or kindle (white text on black screen), with intensity turned down all the way. Puts out almost no light to disturb your partner. This is the application where a 7" ipad would be nice.

The room doesn't have to be all that dark to make e-ink problematic. I always found it difficult to read on planes. Unless the overhead light was pointed directly at the screen the Kindle was not easily viewable. I have barely used my Kindles since the iPad came out.
 
e-ink displays that put less strain on your eyes

While it seems that this is true for the majority of people, it's not true for everybody. I find that e-ink displays give me a headache because it's dark grey on light grey, not true black on white, so it doesn't give me enough contrast between text and background. My advice is try before you buy, or buy from a place with a return policy, just in case you find that you are in the minority that doesn't do well with e-ink.
 
Get a kindle. The e ink screen is far better for reading, and the battery life is amazing.
Better for reading outdoors, or in bright sunlight. Not necessarily better for reading.

Indoors on a duller day, or at night, the Kindle screen is very low contrast. Grey text on a grey background, and it's noticeably lower resolution than the iPad.

iPad is just not a good reader - too heavy and backlit screen (even Retina) is hard on the eyes. E-ink looks just like paper. Really no substitute if you are a heavy reader.
E-ink looks like newsprint at best. It's nothing like the quality of even a cheap paperback book, the page is so dull. (I had a Kindle 4 and have used friends Kindles of various generations)

And the new iPad screen is not bright at all. The minimum brightness on the new one is 3.28cd/m², which is roughly 1/3 the brightness of the previous model. If you don't know, that is equivalent to the brightness of three candles, dimmer than almost any reading light. And you can go dimmer still if you use the sepia tone or night mode.


There have been numerous studies that have shown that reading on modern high density LCDs does not cause any more eyestrain than paper, and in some cases are actually better.



Ultimately, it's about whether you:
  • Want a smaller & cheaper device you're more comfortable carrying around.
  • Want a device to read outdoors or in bright sunlight.
  • Don't want to be charging your device on a daily basis.

If you primarily read indoors and especially at night, the iPad 3 is a better reading device in my opinion. Text looks much better than it does on the Kindle, and there is no eyestrain if you set brightness to an appropriate level for the room lighting.

And while the Kindle battery life is supposedly amazing, I found that when I was actively using it (when it was new) it was lucky to last me a week, and that's without the lighted cover. Once I got my new iPad and started reading books on it, every time I'd pick up the Kindle it would tell me it needed charging—when you're not using it, the battery doesn't seem to last all that long.

I used to have the Kindle 4 but found it a pain in the rear to use due to the keyboard. It takes forever typing in anything. I sold it and bought a Kindle Touch which I'm really happy with, but even with non Touch I would prefer the original one with a keyboard (even if slightly larger) to the Kindle 4. Everything else was fine, but the keyboard drove me nuts.
I rarely ever found the need to type on mine, as I purchased books via the website, and I much preferred having the smaller device and physical buttons compared to the touch.
 
I've owned the $79 Kindle for over 8 months and an iPad2 for about a month. For myself there is no comparison, the dedicated reader, an Amazon Kindle, is the way to go if you like to read - I read at least 3x more since I bought it and that is close to 25 books.

I say this because the Kindle experience is invisible - it is very light and easy to hold for long periods of time, my iPad doesn't fir that requirement at all, especially since I read mostly lying on my bed or coach.

Outdoors the non-reflecting Kindle mades what could be impossible, possible, especially with the sun above or behind me. Indoors, the backlit iPad hurts my eyes.

So, Kindle is my clear choice for those that read a lot. I spend months going back and forth deciding if I wanted a Kindle or iPad, I am so glad I picked the Kindle and didn't fully appreciate it until I got my iPad.
 
Ultimately, it's wonderful that we don't really have to choose. The fact that Amazon provides free Kindle apps for most modern phones and tablets means that you really can have the best of both worlds . . .

I have a 3G Kindle, and truthfully, haven't read that much on it. It's too dark, and the contrast is too subtle for me to read comfortably on. The books I have read on it, I was outside on my back porch, using the sun as a light source.

I am actually looking forward to the iPad Mini, if that unicorn ever comes out of the woods, to be used as my main reader. I have read plenty of books on my old Palm TX, bless it's tiny little backlit low resolution screen. I need the backlight to read, or it just turns into discomfort, which means I'm prone to stop 'enjoying myself' if I'm not comfortable.

So get both. All your e-books available, how you want them, advantages and disadvantages conquered.
 
Except when you are reading in a dark room at night. Then it sucks. No backlight, and the "book light cover" lights up the entire room.

For that, I prefer ipad (or ipod) with stanza (red text on black screen) or kindle (white text on black screen), with intensity turned down all the way. Puts out almost no light to disturb your partner. This is the application where a 7" ipad would be nice.

I agree about the backlight, but the point of the kindle is to be easy on the eyes. Which is something a backlight can't truly accomplish. I do use the iPad to read at night though. What's nice is the bookmarks sync from the kindle iPad app to the actual kindle so either way I'm good to go.
 
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