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Other If you didn’t have a max would you own a iPhone?
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Most iPhone users don't actually own a laptop or desktop. They own iPads.
Can both of you please back up your theses with data?
Personally, I own iPad, iPhone and Macs and one purchase wasn’t based on me owning the other products.
Personally, I own iPad, iPhone and Macs and one purchase wasn’t based on me owning the other products.
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I would but your assertion is WAY WAY off.
We have about 500 iPhones in the company I work for (at least) and like... 3 BYOD MacBooks.
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above is anecdotal, but we are a fairly typical enterprise. and personal life wise, I know far more iPhone owners than Mac owners too.
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If I didn't own a Max…hmmm. I'd probably go back to my iPhone 6s+.
PS. I own two MBPs, but probably not the kind you're thinking. 2006 17" MBP and a 2008 MBP 15".
But I also own several other Macs, not just MBPs.
And PowerBooks and PowerMacs.
No of course not, not if you have a need for them.
I was just explaining that iPhone sales are driven by the usefulness and desirability of iPhone and iOS. Even when I first dabbled in the Apple ecosystem, back in the earliest days of iPhone, the iPhone first was the product that led me to buying almost everything else Apple makes and abandon my convoluted tech life.
I I always considered a MacBook the essential base of Apple in other words you know that’s what everything is connected to you know your messages and everything else so I figure iPhone users just had a Mac as the base for sharing and receiving.
You only have to look at unit sales and marketshare to see that iPhone dominates. Apple sells billions of iPhones, and millions of Macs. macOS has always been a small niche platform. It has contributed a very small amount to the overall success of iPhone. The iPod would have been a bigger pull factor.
For me, iPhone was what led me to becoming embedded in Apple's ecosystems. I did own some iPods before that, but iPhone was the game changer for me. There's little doubt that the vast majority of Apple customers today either started with iPods or iPhones as these have been Apple's biggest smash hit product lines in terms of mass consumption.
Apple once said there’s more than 2 billion iOS devices out there. They outsell Macs by a big big margin.
It makes sense for you, but most people these days don't own Macs, or laptops/desktops in general. The iPhone is the primary computing device for most people, or more accurately, the smartphone.
I tend to think in the same direction as you but don’t think the iPad is as common when looking at iOS users. Sure iPad probably outsells a Mac but iPhones are likely on another level in terms of pure unit numbers.
I have owned severals Max iPhones - 6s max. Xs max, 12 Pro max. This year - 13 Pro. I love the smaller size. Doubt I will ever get another Max phone. Too large for my hand and tired of feeling I am carrying a small iPad.
I have also owned several iPads - current one is the 11" iPad Pro. I also have a 2010 Mac Pro and a 2021 MBP M1 Max.
I don't think there is any correlation that could be drawn between what size iPhone a person has and the other choices of tech they buy. That is why there are so many choices.
I have also owned several iPads - current one is the 11" iPad Pro. I also have a 2010 Mac Pro and a 2021 MBP M1 Max.
I don't think there is any correlation that could be drawn between what size iPhone a person has and the other choices of tech they buy. That is why there are so many choices.
I came to Apple through PowerPC Mac. I still have multiple PowerPC Macs. That G3, there in the picture? That's my server. It's got a 2TB RAID enclosure attached. And the G4 is my 'NAS". It's got two internal 3TB SATA drives and a 250GB boot drive.
I'm a graphic designer and while I don't 'need' all the stuff I have - I want it. That's why I have six screens attached to my Mac Pro. Because I can.
The iPhone and the iPad are great devices - but doing what I can do with a Mac isn't going to happen at this time.
I suppose 'most' people is the phrase.
To repeat, I'm not going to run InDesign or QuarkXPress with six displays off an iPhone or an iPad.
I suppose 'most' people is the phrase.
To repeat, I'm not going to run InDesign or QuarkXPress with six displays off an iPhone or an iPad.
I think the assessment is more than acceptable, most people aren’t graphic designers or use InDesign or Quark.
I meant the iPad more in terms of being the bigger screen computing platform of the future, as opposed to Mac which I regard as the legacy platform. iPads sell better than Macs, but they are not even in the same universe as iPhone sales of course.
I would agree…but even if that isn't what I'd be using my Macs for, there are other things people use their phones for that I just don't.I think the assessment is more than acceptable, most people aren’t graphic designers or use InDesign or Quark.
On the go, a quick email or text, yeah the iPhone is great. Scrolling news with the iPad in bed before sleep, also great.
But more involved email with attachments, heavy web browsing and forum posting - no. As great as the iPad and the iPhone are, the screens are too small. I want to be in front of a computer with a keyboard and a mouse to do all this and anything less than a 20" screen just doesn't cut it for me.
I've always preferred as big of monitors as I could get. I am going to consume my media on my 55" TV, not on some tiny iPad or iPhone screen. That's great when out, but not at home.
I'll admit that I'm different, but this is also why I tend to buy large phones - to get as large a screen as offered.
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If the iPad is the screen computing platform of the future, Apple is going to have to go giant. I sit in front of two 30" Cinema Displays each day and a 55" HDTV. I'm pretty used to those screen sizes.
I came to Apple through PowerPC Mac. I still have multiple PowerPC Macs. That G3, there in the picture? That's my server. It's got a 2TB RAID enclosure attached. And the G4 is my 'NAS". It's got two internal 3TB SATA drives and a 250GB boot drive.
I'm a graphic designer and while I don't 'need' all the stuff I have - I want it. That's why I have six screens attached to my Mac Pro. Because I can.
The iPhone and the iPad are great devices - but doing what I can do with a Mac isn't going to happen at this time.
Yep I never knew the PowerPC existed back in that day. I vaguely remembering look at Apple computers once or twice in my younger days, but all I cared about back then is the games I secretly wanted to play didn't work on Macs.
My Dad is a lot like you, he can appreciate iPhones and iPads, but - when we're talking on the phone - he'll always go upstairs to his Mac to get anything meaningful done. He even prefers sending text messages on his Mac.
If the iPad is the screen computing platform of the future, Apple is going to have to go giant. I sit in front of two 30" Cinema Displays each day and a 55" HDTV. I'm pretty used to those screen sizes.
Maybe iPads will support large multi-screen setups in the future. Obviously iPadOS has got a long way to go too before it will entice *some* macOS users to switch away to iPad as their main productivity machine.
If I didn’t own a Mac mini or a M1 MBA, I would still own an iPhone. For me, the iPhone fits my needs much better than any other phone.
I'm 51 so I guess it's just what I know. I've had a computer in some form or another since 1980 (I was 9-10) when my dad brought the first one home. It's always just been what I'm most comfortable with.Yep I never knew the PowerPC existed back in that day. I vaguely remembering look at Apple computers once or twice in my younger days, but all I cared about back then is the games I secretly wanted to play didn't work on Macs.
My Dad is a lot like you, he can appreciate iPhones and iPads, but - when we're talking on the phone - he'll always go upstairs to his Mac to get anything meaningful done. He even prefers sending text messages on his Mac.