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I agree with the op that the 13 inch rmbp should have quad core by today's standards.

Dual core is for the Mac airs.

Blame Intel then, they continue to refuse (or can't due to engineering issues) a quad core CPU with a similar TDP as dual core since Haswell's introduction.

Apple could've used the Ivy Bridge quad core 35 watt i7-3632QM in the 1st gen rMBP 13's though as it had the same TDP as the dual core CPU's used in that generation.
 
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Blame Intel then, they continue to refuse (or can't due to engineering issues) a quad core CPU with a similar TDP as dual core since Haswell's introduction.

Apple could've used the Ivy Bridge quad core 35 watt i7-3632QM in the 1st gen rMBP 13's though as it had the same TDP as the dual core CPU's used in that generation.

Blame AMD as well for falling so far behind in CPU performance. With AMD left behind in the dust, Intel has zero competition and they can delay for as long as they like.
 
There isn't a suitable QC with HT chip with a 28W TDP for the rMBPs.

Besides, it'd heat up like crazy.

This is why Apple should have kept the 17 inch MBP and need to bring it back. I understand it would have a very specific audience, but so does the Mac Pro and they still make that. 11 and 12 inch computers are like toys IMO. Not much bigger display than my iPad and usually underpowered for any kind of serious graphics, photo/video work or gaming. What I would like to see is Apple drop the Air line, or at least the name. The new 12 inch Macbook could be the bottom line with the Core M accompanied by a 13.3 inch Macbook with a dual-core. Then they could have the 15 rMBP and bring back the 17 inch and make it a retina MBP. Both would have i5 and i7 quad core processors. That way, you have all the bases covered. The people who want ultra thin and light for web browsing and emails, a dual-core for students and people doing documents, the 15 inch rMBP for people who want power in a smaller package and the 17 rMBP for those of us who work with large photo and video files and want larger displays and those who do graphic intensive work.
 
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Thanks to everyone for the replies ad help. I scored a great deal on a mid 2014 rMBP 15 base model from Craigslist today and ran the same tests. The video that took 7:12 on the 13 only took 4:08 (which is the exact length of the video) and the same 1.26GB of photos that took 1:32 to transfer from the SD card on the 13 only took :54 on the 15. These are speeds I can live with. I guess the i7, 16GB of RAM and Intel Iris Pro is the lowest I can go and be satisfied. Quick questions, does the 1536MB next to the Intel Iris Pro mean this has dedicated graphics too? Or is it shared?
If what you write is true, I stand corrected in regards to the sd card speed.
I am interested in peoples opinion, why the 15" would transfer faster.
I am also wondering if those 40 seconds really make that much of a difference in daily use.
 
If what you write is true, I stand corrected in regards to the sd card speed.
I am interested in peoples opinion, why the 15" would transfer faster.
I am also wondering if those 40 seconds really make that much of a difference in daily use.

I would guess its because i7 is a huge step up over dual-core, I now have double the RAM and a better GPU. More impressive to me was it exported my video in nearly half the time then rMBP 13 did. Again, much more powerful computer.
 
I would guess its because i7 is a huge step up over dual-core, I now have double the RAM and a better GPU. More impressive to me was it exported my video in nearly half the time then rMBP 13 did. Again, much more powerful computer.
The RAM is irrelevant for exporting video, the quadcore i7 however makes a huge difference.
I am not surprised about the video export times. What baffles me is the increased import speed from sd card. Are you sure you were using the same card?
 
The RAM is irrelevant for exporting video, the quadcore i7 however makes a huge difference.
I am not surprised about the video export times. What baffles me is the increased import speed from sd card. Are you sure you were using the same card.

Yep, positive. I only have the one card. Uploaded the same exact photos. Its an old, slow card too. Just a SanDisk Ultra II 15 MB/s
 
Yep, positive. I only have the one card. Uploaded the same exact photos. Its an old, slow card too. Just a SanDisk Ultra II 15 MB/s
You upgraded your macook instead of getting a new card? :D

Seriously: Get a faster card! 15 mb/s is pathetic.

I have the 13" rmbp 2.4ghz and importing 400jpegs is almost instant.
 
You upgraded your macook instead of getting a new card? :D

Seriously: Get a faster card! 15 mb/s is pathetic.

I have the 13" rmbp 2.4ghz and importing 400jpegs is almost instant.

You think thats bad? The card I use for HD video in my Canon G20 is only 30 MB/s! I AM due for some upgraded cards I guess :p
 
This is why Apple should have kept the 17 inch MBP and need to bring it back. I understand it would have a very specific audience, but so does the Mac Pro and they still make that. 11 and 12 inch computers are like toys IMO. Not much bigger display than my iPad and usually underpowered for any kind of serious graphics, photo/video work or gaming. What I would like to see is Apple drop the Air line, or at least the name. The new 12 inch Macbook could be the bottom line with the Core M accompanied by a 13.3 inch Macbook with a dual-core. Then they could have the 15 rMBP and bring back the 17 inch and make it a retina MBP. Both would have i5 and i7 quad core processors. That way, you have all the bases covered. The people who want ultra thin and light for web browsing and emails, a dual-core for students and people doing documents, the 15 inch rMBP for people who want power in a smaller package and the 17 rMBP for those of us who work with large photo and video files and want larger displays and those who do graphic intensive work.

Apple doesn't need to bring back the 17" MBP. The user base is too small.

I was one of those who used a 17" MBP from 2011. I miss the screen estate, but I adjusted my workflow and habits accordingly to suit my 15" rMBP.
 
Apple doesn't need to bring back the 17" MBP. The user base is too small.

They have a needless 5k iMac and a Mac Pro that I seriously doubt even makes up 5% of their total computer sales. Those are smaller user bases than a rMBP 17 would get :)
 
They have a needless 5k iMac and a Mac Pro that I seriously doubt even makes up 5% of their total computer sales. Those are smaller user bases than a rMBP 17 would get :)

The 5K iMac is just like the 15" rMBP at launch.

After one year, the 27" non-retina will be axed.

And then there'll be the 4K iMac in a 21.5" size.

The nMP makes up a much larger user base than you think. Professional cinematographers who deal with 4K work all the time (like me) use nMPs. nMPs are also used extensively for rendering.

Apple's goal is to ultimately get rid of all non-retina displays. That way, it'll save the developers the trouble of having to maintain two versions of apps - one for retina and one for non-retina.
 
Apple's goal is to ultimately get rid of all non-retina displays. That way, it'll save the developers the trouble of having to maintain two versions of apps - one for retina and one for non-retina.


I realize you're just simplifying but fairly sure at worst it's two different sets of assets in the same app and a variant code path for hidpi font rendering if you don't use the OS's.

But I agree, plainly the non-retina screen is not long for this world. That's the biggest indicator I see that the MBA might be on its way out.
 
They have a needless 5k iMac and a Mac Pro that I seriously doubt even makes up 5% of their total computer sales. Those are smaller user bases than a rMBP 17 would get :)

This is a thread you started for photo and video work and you say the 5K iMac is needless? Wow.
 
This is a thread you started for photo and video work and you say the 5K iMac is needless? Wow.

Its needless as of now. 1080p is still the industry standard. It will still be several years before 4k becomes the standard. 4k televisions are still too expensive for the general public. 4k players aren't even coming till the end of this year and it will take another year or two for them to get to a price people will pay. Cable and satellite providers can't even provide a 1080p picture aside from some Direct TV movies and 4k video cameras are still far too expensive for most companies to start filming with. So yes, 5k is needless right now in 2015.
 
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