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I welcome any weight savings

Air 2: 437g
Air: 469g
4gen: 652g
3gen: 650g
2gen: 601g
1gen: 680g

^This.

Weight loss on tablets is so much more important than thinness. If the battery was any bigger on the Air 2 it would have gained weight which would have put me off purchasing. Remember the 3rd gen weight fiasco?

Thinner, lighter, faster, TouchID, more RAM, faster Wi-Fi, Baromoter and just generally better all round and with 11 hours battery life, sorry but that's more than fine in my books.

This whole battery thing is a minor disadvantage.
 
Customers don't always know what they want. Pre iPhone, ask customers what they would want from their next phone, it wouldn't be the iPhone.

The battery life is just as good as the previous iPad, likely due to more efficient use of power. We're geeking out over the numbers, but the user experience will feel the same, 10hrs.

But 10hrs shouldn't be the standard for battery life, especially when CPUs are made more power efficient with every release, Apple is using that advantage (in my opinion) in the wrong direction.
 
But 10hrs shouldn't be the standard for battery life, especially when CPUs are made more power efficient with every release, Apple is using that advantage (in my opinion) in the wrong direction.

More efficient CPU's doesn't necessarily mean less power consumption, it's being used so the processor can use the same power consumption for much more processing power.
 
I welcome any weight savings

Air 2: 437g
Air: 469g
4gen: 652g
3gen: 650g
2gen: 601g
1gen: 680g

The benefit of weight saving and reduced thickness depends on the usage. I think for some it is great, for other not so much. Me (and a lot of other people around here) have bought a case and so the iPads stands on the desk, couch table, kitchen countertop. Or I put on my legs. I rarely move it around while using or hold it in front of me. So there is nearly zero benefit from weight saving and reduced thickness for me, while i would definitely notice a better battery.
 
Smaller battery but same battery life. If thinness makes the tablet easier to use, then yea go ahead and shrink the battery as long as it gives me the same great battery life.

Not what the reviews are saying.....
 
The benefit of weight saving and reduced thickness depends on the usage. I think for some it is great, for other not so much. Me (and a lot of other people around here) have bought a case and so the iPads stands on the desk, couch table, kitchen countertop. Or I put on my legs. I rarely move it around while using or hold it in front of me. So there is nearly zero benefit from weight saving and reduced thickness for me, while i would definitely notice a better battery.

Get a battery case then, everyone's happy.
 
I welcome any weight savings

Air 2: 437g
Air: 469g
4gen: 652g
3gen: 650g
2gen: 601g
1gen: 680g

iPad mini's weight is perfect, so Apple's target for Air should be under 400g
There is no need to make the tablet thinner, it has to be lighter.
 
But 10hrs shouldn't be the standard for battery life, especially when CPUs are made more power efficient with every release, Apple is using that advantage (in my opinion) in the wrong direction.

What advantage will you get out of having longer battery life? How often does it happen to you that you had an iPad with a 100% charge in the morning, and during the day you had to stop what you were doing to recharge it?

Take an iPad 1 and an iPad Air 2 and hold them in your hands. Then tell me which of these you would rather use. I will find it very difficult to believe if you tell me: "It's all the same to me."

Weight and thickness are the two major factors that will affect how well you can use a tablet. Battery life only plays into it when you run out of power. And I doubt that this happens all that often.

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Not what the reviews are saying.....

Yes, the reviews are saying that it still has the promised battery life of 10+ hours. It has at least the battery life of the iPad 4 that everyone was happy with.
 
No. If that was the case, there would be no reason for companies like Samsung or Google to pull out all their tricks now, and release a product that is vastly superior to the iPad in every way. They would benefit from the increased sales far more than their lost profits per device.

Just because a company like Apple or Intel know what they will be providing next year, or the year after, does not mean they are holding things back. They simply are guessing what will be possible to make once technologies that are presently in research and development become feasible for mass production.

You don't think samsung does the same thing as apple? They don't need to put out something that the competitor doesn't have(even though they have done that) until they need to. Their profits aren't at risk(i don't see them going down as a company anytime soon) so why release something they don't need to yet...?
At least thats how i see it.
 
You don't think samsung does the same thing as apple? They don't need to put out something that the competitor doesn't have(even though they have done that) until they need to. Their profits aren't at risk(i don't see them going down as a company anytime soon) so why release something they don't need to yet...?
At least thats how i see it.

I don't see why Samsung would do that. I think that as they don't have much market share compared to Apple, they would gain far more in going for broke than what they would lose.
 
I don't see why Samsung would do that. I think that as they don't have much market share compared to Apple, they would gain far more in going for broke than what they would lose.

But they have released things that apple does not do. There has to be a strategy to what they release and how they see profits reflecting releasing certain things. no? If they don't see much of a threat with the way things are going why release something nobody else has? until they have to.
 
Just a little bit of info.

The Wifi A/C operates much faster than on the iPhone 6.

iPhone 6 maxes out at 250mbps where as my iPad 2 Air goes up to 400mbps
 
iPad mini's weight is perfect, so Apple's target for Air should be under 400g
There is no need to make the tablet thinner, it has to be lighter.

The 2 go hand in hand man.

The number of people bitching about the new iPad on here is unbelievable!

Go buy a competitor's product if it's such a band piece of kit.
 
Smart case

Just in case anyone is wondering, the previous smart case DOES NOT properly fit the Air 2. It does hold the Air 2 securely (although obviously not quite as tightly as the previous iPad), however the volume keys are in the wrong place, the rear camera is obscured, the microphone in covered and the automatic locking/unlocking doesn't seem to work.
 
Just in case anyone is wondering, the previous smart case DOES NOT properly fit the Air 2. It does hold the Air 2 securely (although obviously not quite as tightly as the previous iPad), however the volume keys are in the wrong place, the rear camera is obscured, the microphone in covered and the automatic locking/unlocking doesn't seem to work.

Can we have some photos please?
 
At uni for 6-8 hours a day taking notes with it during class, writing papers between classes, required readings from the (ebook) texts during the hour's commute there and back...yes it does add up.

Fortunately, (unlike the laptop I used before) with the iPad if I forget to plug it in the previous night I still have enough battery to get through most of the next day... provided I mostly stay off of Safari.

If your forgetful about charging battery, what's to say you won't forget after 2 days?

Some customers ask why we close our business at 5:00pm, I tell them "if I was open until 7:00pm you would ask the same question", "why do you close at 7:00pm". My point is, these same customers who say that can't get there by 5:00pm, always seem to get there before 5:00pm, they figure it out!

If you are worried about forgetting to charge your battery, that is your own negligence, and the battery with the Air 2, is not that diminished to cause you your example scenario to be any different.;)

From what I'm reading a lot of the same people that complained about Ram have moved to battery! Apple responded to what I understand, was the biggest complaint, Ram. Now we got 2GB of Ram, extra core, 55% faster multi core performance, faster overall, better screen and yes thinner!:cool::apple:

I like the move to thinner and lighter, that's progress, and in turn forces others to keep moving forward, as with battery tech etc., and well the competition!
:apple::apple::apple:

What people aren't looking at (IMO), is how Apple continue's to make products thinner, lighter, faster and keep battery performance close to the same.:apple:

I've always carried a backup battery for my iPads & iPhone's there was a possibility I would not have time to charge. Most of the time it's in my truck or backpack when traveling. Funny thing is, I've never used it for myself, only friends and family. It's always the same ones that use my external battery, never keeping their **** charged.:confused:
 
The 2 go hand in hand man.

The number of people bitching about the new iPad on here is unbelievable!

Go buy a competitor's product if it's such a band piece of kit.

You didn't understand me.
I'm going to buy either mini 2 or Air 2 this time (I still have to make a decision), I just agree with the guy I quoted.
Air 2 is lighter than Air 1 and that's a good news for me, since I'm willing to sacrifice some battery life for a lighter product.
So I don't agree with people complaining about the lighter Air 2. Battery life is still ok, so making it lighter is a good move.

I feel exactly the opposite way about iPhones, but that's a different story
 
We already have.
Some comments on the other article are "wake me up when it have 4GB of RAM"

Moaning and whining is a part of human nature.

Yes, there is some that will never have a good thing to say!:(

Must be a miserable life to constantly complain!:eek:

One of my employee's is that person, he's a miserable, winning, grown man baby! However, once the whining stops, excellent employee!:cool:
 
All for thinness that matters little. Bet many would've gladly take the previous gen's depth + the bigger battery.

A bigger battery for what? The run time is more than good enough for a days use.

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The battery life is still at least the 10 hours that Apple promises, but I guess some people just have to find something to complain about now that they can't complain about the lack of RAM....

Just to make you feel good I'm complaint about the lack of a 128GB of RAM. ###

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Apple should reconsider their thinner product obsession.. If customers were asked to set their priorities they'd ask for longer battery life than thinner iDevice.

Well I'm a customer and frankly the battery life is good enough.
 
Smaller battery but same battery life. If thinness makes the tablet easier to use, then yea go ahead and shrink the battery as long as it gives me the same great battery life.

A sheet of A4 is SUPER thin and requires no battery. It looks like Apple is going full circle.

I say put your money into paper manufacturing. I think the shares will rocket in a few years.
 
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