Why? What other industry gives a buffer? Buy a new car, the next day the new model shows up on the lot, sorry. Same with just about every other product I can think of.
I know it sucks, but I think calling Apple a "racket" is a bit extreme here.
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Why? What other industry gives a buffer? Buy a new car, the next day the new model shows up on the lot, sorry. Same with just about every other product I can think of.
I know it sucks, but I think calling Apple a "racket" is a bit extreme here.
iPhoto Update Free?
Was reading the info on Web Galleries and came across this.
http://www.mac.com/web/en/Tips/98656C4C-5D25-4BE6-8B6D-446C6CF0509F.html
"To publish photos, first make sure your .Mac account is set up in System Preferences. Next, update your version of iPhoto '08 to 7.0.1 by choosing Software Update from the Apple menu and following the prompts to install."
Sounds to me like you can update iPhoto to '08 without buying iLife?
Did I miss something about that?
Was reading the info on Web Galleries and came across this.
http://www.mac.com/web/en/Tips/98656C4C-5D25-4BE6-8B6D-446C6CF0509F.html
"To publish photos, first make sure your .Mac account is set up in System Preferences. Next, update your version of iPhoto '08 to 7.0.1 by choosing Software Update from the Apple menu and following the prompts to install."
Sounds to me like you can update iPhoto to '08 without buying iLife?
Did I miss something about that?
From .Mac Domain Settings under your account info:
The next step is an "Add Domain" page, a simple two-box entry screen:
Not wanting to try any of my domains yet, I tried test.com (just to see what it would do). The error I get is:
So I guess we'll have to wait until someone tries it with a live domain. My guess is that since they require your own registrar, they instruct you to change the A record (or whatever part of the domain settings at your registrar that point the www. or whatever subdomains to specific IP addresses that Apple will assign you???).
I've been around for a while. This happens every time there is an update. The thing that makes it so irritating is that it's not like it's a new hardware update that would involve re-stocking your machine or returning a vehicle to the dealer. It's a piece of software, and not even an OS to boot. They give upgrade certificates to people who purchase Macs just before an OS release, so why not iLife?
I'm not spending $79 on it. Just bought this Macbook 4 days ago. You'd feel the same way if you JUST bought a new Mac as well.
Oh well, I guess I'm just bitter. I am saving my money for Leopard, so I can't spend it on iLife. Apple will get my money, just not on iLife 08.
There appears to be a minor update to iPhoto '08 already. You still have to buy iLife '08, which probably ships with iPhoto 7.0. They're telling you to update the shipping version to iPhoto 7.0.1 via Software Update.
This is correct...I just called again to confirm and she said that I have to pay full price for it...That just sucks considering I ordered my MBP on Friday...then cancelled yesterday since I didnt order the glossy screen...the problem is that I cannot afford to cancel again...i probably shouldnt have even cancelled yesterday...
i guess i will have to wait to upgrade to 08...not worth the money right now...
Well I was afraid that you couldn't host it somewhere else. However, with 10GB of storage, it's not too bad.
As others have already mentioned, they already pushed the .1 update out the door. Probably a minor fix or a late feature add since the software went golden master or RTM or whatever it's called. No free lunch. By the way, just did software update on Tiger 10.4.10 with latest iLife 06 apps on it, but I'm all current with updates, nothing available to add.
Yah, I know it is frustrating. I have a new loaded Mac Pro and a new MacBook Pro, and I have yet to even open any iLife program on the MacBook Pro. Four days ago does suck, but Apple announced this event more than 4 days ago.
There has to be a cutoff date sometime. If they gave a 30 day retroactive buffer, the guy who bought on day 31 would be pissed. It's the nature of the industry.
/shrug
Of the industry, sure. But of Apple specifically, very true. I would have to agree with the poster that pointed out that new macs bought from today on would already have iLife 08 included, so what's the point of the up to date. But I believe that this merely covers the large amount of boxed hardware that would have already been in the supply chain from the recent past, that are sitting in stores today. Especially machines that didn't receive a refresh today.
I don't expect Apple to bend on this, but the backlash will certainly be significant.
Personally I found the Q&A at the end very un-Apple (but welcome nonetheless). If no reporter had thought to ask about the mini, we certainly would have found out in due course through scouring the Store for updated product. But I for one would like to see Apple be just a little more relaxed where it comes to answering media inquiries, to expand upon the loose Q&A format that was allowed today. Nothing especially earth-shattering was asked however, probably caught everyone off guard so they wouldn't have juicy stuff prepared to ask.
So this will be my first upgrade of iLife, since I got my first Mac about a year ago. I am most interested in the updated iMovie. However, I am pretty happy with the current iMovie as well! Can I run both at the same time? Is that possible? Or does installing iLife '08 pretty much wipe out my current iLife apps?
Doesn't surprise me. iMovie has been pretty bad since about version 3 or so. It's easy to use, but in all recent versions, I always run into common situations that make it barf.
For example, just the other day I was editing a quick movie - import from the camera, add clip to the timeline, add a fade-in transition at the beginning. Whoops, the transition completely killed the sound, rather than fading it in like it says it does. I had to extract the audio from the clip first, then apply the transition, then ramp up the audio manually. No way my mom figures out that workaround. People like her, that this software is aimed towards, would either give up or live with the error.
Every recent version of iMovie has had stupid little bugs like this. It almost always has major trouble with undo - works fine, until eventually when an undo operation borks up one of your clips.
Hopefully this version, being a brand new codebase, leaves all those issues behind. I'm pretty excited to try it out.
I really, really like the look of Web Gallery. It seems to be a great solution for someone like me who is already committed to iPhoto for photo management and is mainly publishing kid stuff for a (let's be kind) somewhat technically-unsophisticated audience of grandparents etc. Simple, cross-platform, resource-light at the user end -- this alone will sell me .Mac.
Here's a live demo.
Here's a live demo.
Yep, it kinda sucks. You still have to have .Mac to use that feature, so not that much use. All they do is make a DNS alias. I have one.com as my webhotel and they already have webalias via DNS, so that my .Mac site shows on my own domain, without me having to buy for .Mac
With the new iMovie, will iPhoto no longer import the videos from my still DC? Will iMovie open now and ask if I should import movies from my camera?
Just 99 Aussie dollars (was $119)-at that price, I'll buy it as soon as my Apple reseller gets it in.
It'll be my first iLife upgrade too.
It'll be my first iLife upgrade too.
I think that Apple has printed the install discs and then found a bug, so that an update will already be ready when you receive iLife 08.
The Garage Band update seems a bit weak to me. 
Apple could have at least thrown us a new Jam pack to complement this release.
I can't say I am very excited by iLife '08. I certainly wont be going out of my way to upgrade like I did with iLife '05 or '06.
Apple could have at least thrown us a new Jam pack to complement this release.
I can't say I am very excited by iLife '08. I certainly wont be going out of my way to upgrade like I did with iLife '05 or '06.
I Use Aperture instead of iPhoto. Hopefully we will see an update to Aperture soon that makes it possible to use the same features on .Mac as iPhoto - as well as order the new books.
Hmmm ...
Well, count me in on the group with a 1-week-old Mac who now needs to spend another $79 to have the latest iLife. Not very happy about it, but that is life.
In any case, though, I'm scratching my head here.
iPhoto:
Events. Okay, this is exactly, aside from the thumbnail photo assigned to the "event" what I was doing with "rolls". I mean, photos got moved into "event" rolls which had little to do with precisely when they were imported into the Mac (which always seems a useless bit of trivia for a photo). I don't see why having yet another organizing method (events) adds anything to the mix here. Does anyone find the "roll" concept intrinsically useful, such that both it and the "event" concept need to live side-by-side?
Filtering by ratings: about time. It's a key part of my Aperture workflow. And the added adjustments (highlight/shadows, etc) are a nice pull over from Aperture too. I just wish the non-destructive editing (yes, I can revert to the original, but I can't re-jigger the cropping without losing the white balance and straightening changes!) had made the cut too!
.Mac web gallery: I'm guessing this is the key .Mac upgrade we're seeing aside from more space (although if reports of faster upload/download times are to be believed, that is the #1 improvement to .Mac!) It seems like another photo slideshow ghetto. How many ghettos should one .Mac account hold? I mean, there's already the "Homepage" ghetto, and the iWeb ghetto; do we really need another one? Still, some really nice features. And, maybe they built a little foot bridge from your iWeb site to this gallery ... but they sure aren't advertising it. I'll wait and see on this. Still, the features here are compelling enough I'll likely use it even though it's not a fully integrated ecosystem ... I just expect more of Apple I guess.
iMovie:
Well, it all looks nice to me, but I'm not going to get much use out of it. Where iMovie frustrated me before was depth of adjustments and stability as the project grew larger. I've since transitioned over to Final Cut instead, and don't see anything here that would pull me back (nor do I see the justification behind the new iMovie being able to create a quick movie faster than Final Cut ... assuming a non-novice FCP user). Even my kids are able to work Final Cut pretty deftly! In any case, call this a non-review of iMovie.
Garage Band:
Looks mostly evolutionary, albeit in the right direction. Although: wait a minute; can you now change the tempo of your recording? That's a significant improvement!
In any case, I'll give the changes a thumbs up. Garage Band is very nice, for what it is, and it seems Apple's made it even more "what it is".
iWeb:
Here, I'm a bit disappointed. I like that we now can pull in "web widgets" (by which I am assuming they mean code snippets), and the implementation there sounds slick (live updating while composing the rest of your page). I think I'll pass on the Google AdSense integration (seems like this is a needlessly emphasized example of a web widget, right?). The Google Maps integration might be very useful, though, depending on how much we can customize the embedded maps.
Personal Domain Names: The details here are sketchy at best. Does this mean that we can redirect from our personal domain to the iWeb page without the user's browser address changing (which I thought was already possible), or that Apple is getting into the domain name business alongside GoDaddy and the rest?
Enhanced Photo Pages: doesn't seem like anything more than a minor update to the existing photo pages. I don't like the paradigm of a sheet full of thumbnails with a small caption per and a link to a slideshow, so I never used the existing photo pages. Looks like I'll continue not using them.
Theme Switching: sounds useful. Maybe add in an Automator action to rotate your site's theme on a daily basis and we've got a winner! Just kidding of course; when you need it, it's good to have it there.
iDVD: Another incremental update. More themes to use (does this not ship with the older themes, again? It seems silly to get a new version of software and not have the older version's themes available!) Positioning guides. More button shapes if you use those. "Better" slideshows (again, I can't bring myself to use iDVD's slideshows because it's another ghetto; put all that effort into it and the only folks who can enjoy it are those who pop the disk in, not the folks who just download it online ... which brings me to ...)
I see iDVD as the biggest missed opportunity for iLife 08. Apple had a year and a half here. The obvious progression from the DVD is to online. iMovie makes non-interactive movies. iWeb can put some basic interactivity around movies, but it's not really geared towards that. iDVD should be able to "burn" to a web site, using Flash or whatever is necessary. I should be able to, for instance, sink two hours into timing out a slideshow in iDVD, and export that not only to the DVD but also to an automated slideshow (with similar controls or autopilot modes) on the iWeb site.
Overall, I'm very disappointed here. I'll likely pony up the $79 to upgrade, because I'm Apple's bitch and all. But I'm not nearly so excited to do so as I have been the last two upgrades. The extra time between upgrades has only strengthened the disappointment here; this seems like a half-version upgrade, and it took one and a half times as long to produce!
Well, count me in on the group with a 1-week-old Mac who now needs to spend another $79 to have the latest iLife. Not very happy about it, but that is life.
In any case, though, I'm scratching my head here.
iPhoto:
Events. Okay, this is exactly, aside from the thumbnail photo assigned to the "event" what I was doing with "rolls". I mean, photos got moved into "event" rolls which had little to do with precisely when they were imported into the Mac (which always seems a useless bit of trivia for a photo). I don't see why having yet another organizing method (events) adds anything to the mix here. Does anyone find the "roll" concept intrinsically useful, such that both it and the "event" concept need to live side-by-side?
Filtering by ratings: about time. It's a key part of my Aperture workflow. And the added adjustments (highlight/shadows, etc) are a nice pull over from Aperture too. I just wish the non-destructive editing (yes, I can revert to the original, but I can't re-jigger the cropping without losing the white balance and straightening changes!) had made the cut too!
.Mac web gallery: I'm guessing this is the key .Mac upgrade we're seeing aside from more space (although if reports of faster upload/download times are to be believed, that is the #1 improvement to .Mac!) It seems like another photo slideshow ghetto. How many ghettos should one .Mac account hold? I mean, there's already the "Homepage" ghetto, and the iWeb ghetto; do we really need another one? Still, some really nice features. And, maybe they built a little foot bridge from your iWeb site to this gallery ... but they sure aren't advertising it. I'll wait and see on this. Still, the features here are compelling enough I'll likely use it even though it's not a fully integrated ecosystem ... I just expect more of Apple I guess.
iMovie:
Well, it all looks nice to me, but I'm not going to get much use out of it. Where iMovie frustrated me before was depth of adjustments and stability as the project grew larger. I've since transitioned over to Final Cut instead, and don't see anything here that would pull me back (nor do I see the justification behind the new iMovie being able to create a quick movie faster than Final Cut ... assuming a non-novice FCP user). Even my kids are able to work Final Cut pretty deftly! In any case, call this a non-review of iMovie.
Garage Band:
Looks mostly evolutionary, albeit in the right direction. Although: wait a minute; can you now change the tempo of your recording? That's a significant improvement!
In any case, I'll give the changes a thumbs up. Garage Band is very nice, for what it is, and it seems Apple's made it even more "what it is".
iWeb:
Here, I'm a bit disappointed. I like that we now can pull in "web widgets" (by which I am assuming they mean code snippets), and the implementation there sounds slick (live updating while composing the rest of your page). I think I'll pass on the Google AdSense integration (seems like this is a needlessly emphasized example of a web widget, right?). The Google Maps integration might be very useful, though, depending on how much we can customize the embedded maps.
Personal Domain Names: The details here are sketchy at best. Does this mean that we can redirect from our personal domain to the iWeb page without the user's browser address changing (which I thought was already possible), or that Apple is getting into the domain name business alongside GoDaddy and the rest?
Enhanced Photo Pages: doesn't seem like anything more than a minor update to the existing photo pages. I don't like the paradigm of a sheet full of thumbnails with a small caption per and a link to a slideshow, so I never used the existing photo pages. Looks like I'll continue not using them.
Theme Switching: sounds useful. Maybe add in an Automator action to rotate your site's theme on a daily basis and we've got a winner! Just kidding of course; when you need it, it's good to have it there.
iDVD: Another incremental update. More themes to use (does this not ship with the older themes, again? It seems silly to get a new version of software and not have the older version's themes available!) Positioning guides. More button shapes if you use those. "Better" slideshows (again, I can't bring myself to use iDVD's slideshows because it's another ghetto; put all that effort into it and the only folks who can enjoy it are those who pop the disk in, not the folks who just download it online ... which brings me to ...)
I see iDVD as the biggest missed opportunity for iLife 08. Apple had a year and a half here. The obvious progression from the DVD is to online. iMovie makes non-interactive movies. iWeb can put some basic interactivity around movies, but it's not really geared towards that. iDVD should be able to "burn" to a web site, using Flash or whatever is necessary. I should be able to, for instance, sink two hours into timing out a slideshow in iDVD, and export that not only to the DVD but also to an automated slideshow (with similar controls or autopilot modes) on the iWeb site.
Overall, I'm very disappointed here. I'll likely pony up the $79 to upgrade, because I'm Apple's bitch and all. But I'm not nearly so excited to do so as I have been the last two upgrades. The extra time between upgrades has only strengthened the disappointment here; this seems like a half-version upgrade, and it took one and a half times as long to produce!
Not likely on the .Mac integration, although it would be a pleasant surprise. Apple tends to not provide "consumer" features in the Pro lines. For instance, you won't see "Automatic Ken Burns Effects" in Final Cut.
Well all I'm interested in is to use Webgallery with Aperture. I hate iPhotos duplication of images when you edit them. Takes up to much space.