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if anyone has any ideas as to why garageband and idvd are crashing immediately upon starting them, let me know :confused:
 
That store owns - the Bullring one is too cramped and Meadowhall is a good center anyhoo. Specially nice to get one of them Costa ice chocolate drinks after getting a Mac!

How many Americans have I confused there d'ya reckon? lol (no offence, I'm looking to move to the US someday)

Yeh it is a good store, although half of Meadowhal - like the whole ground floor - is still closed from the flooding. And 2 hours away by public transport frm Huddersfield is a drag :mad:

P.S. to answer my own question, just called the store and they have the new iMacs, iLife etc in stock so looks like I'm off to the train station soon. :cool:
 
if anyone has any ideas as to why garageband and idvd are crashing immediately upon starting them, let me know :confused:
At a guess I'd say you need to go into the Library/Preferences folder in your Home directory and trash the Garageband and iDVD preferences files.

Do the Repair Permissions thing too if you haven't already.
 
Can anyone let me know if iPhoto still has the calendar view?

Always found it very useful for finding photos if you know when they were taken, but couldn't see it on the video tour.

Cheers.
 
if i bought a mac either now or when leopard comes with the new ilife installed could i install imovie 06?

it seems they have totally cut of third party plugins in the new imovie
 
but has anyone got iMovie working on a G4, my gf has a G4 PB and wondered if it will run.

The best I ever tried was iMovie 2 on my old G4 (upgraded) sawtooth. Made a short film with it, and other than a few audio sync problems (might have been our fault) it worked fine.

I just bought a new mac about a month ago, and yeah I would have liked the new iLife as an upgrade (they should offer a 30 day upgrade), but I'm not losing any sleep over it. The software is pretty cheap anyway.
 
I had a friend go to the Apple store just now & he told me that iMovie is not compatible with pre Intel Powerbooks.
Make sure you know if you have G4 Powerbook.
 
Really? That's weird, because they have a trial of iWork 08 online right now and Adobe allows you download a whole suite. Seems odd that Apple couldn't do this either. Are you sure about that?

yeah. its at least 3gb.
iDVD and GarageBand are known to be some HUGE apps.
 
Based on a quick review of the new iMovie pages, I'm very concerned that iMovie may have lost a significant amount of its power and flexibility. The new features do look nice for the right purpose. No sign of prior version's ability to edit multiple audio tracks, timeline editing, etc.

Hopefully it's all still in there somewhere.

I've just watched the guided tour, and I am very concerned about this too. Currently an iMovie '04 user, I've been holding off upgrading. Now I see that all the detailed editing skills I've honed over the years, and thought I could continue to use, are likely to be useless. iMovie 08 looks to have dumbed down the Movie creation process to the lowest common denominator. Not sure about these for sure, but my fears:

-no way to have different audio levels within a single track
-no way to extract audio from movies
-no way to have multiple audio tracks on top of each other
-frame by frame counter doesn't seem to be there, so aligning sounds and frames will be impossible. There goes lip sync.... One of my main movie styles is to extract the audio out of a clip, then split the video up and intersperse still photos with the motion picture. Make for an efficient way to show movies / pics and have the narration at the same time. But being able to specify exactly how many frames to make still pics last for, and how many frames to chop, is essential for the lip sync.....
-can you still create a still picture from a frame of a movie ?

I've got to get into my local store and check out whether iMovie 08 is as lame as the guide made it look.....

If it is, then Apple have really disappointed me. Their biggest overhaul took a useful tool that required some brain power to use, and has turned it into a much less useful tool that may appeal to the masses....

The support articles are reinforcing my fears....

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1073559&tstart=0
 
Does the latest iWeb support metanames?

Does the latest iWeb allow users to add meta names easily?
 
Are there any examples around already for .Mac web galleries? Seems like a cool feature, but I want to know how it behaves with older browsers and browsers on different platforms.

Anyone?
 
It's amazing how hypocritical some people can be. I'm sure you'd be thrilled if you missed the cut off by one day, (NOT ONE MONTH), too. I could not afford to wait for some press conference that MIGHT have been releasing new software.

I should at least be allowed to return the $79 iWork I purchased, but Apple won't even let me do that.

How are we cheating anybody? iLife is included with your new computer, after I've given Apple thousands of dollars of business, I don't think it's much to ask for an upgrade.

They give a grace period with new OS releases. Why should something like this be any different?
 
New Jam Pack - Vocals/More thoughts on iMovie

The Garage Band update seems a bit weak to me. :rolleyes:

Apple could have at least thrown us a new Jam pack to complement this release.

I can't say I am very excited by iLife '08. I certainly wont be going out of my way to upgrade like I did with iLife '05 or '06.

Actually, it looks like they did include a new Jam Pack...

http://www.apple.com/ilife/garageband/jampacks/

Not sure how this will work, exactly -- all oohs and ahhs?

I think 80% of the upgrade looks to be good. But the new iMovie looks like a disaster for anyone who does more with video than uploading a simple clip to youtube (and how many skateboarding dogs are there in the world?). I can't believe they further dumbed down the audio capabilities. That was (originally) one of the best things about iMovie -- even in version 1 you could replace audio, use audio from one clip under another clip, sync in your own replacement dialogue, etc...you didn't HAVE to develop the skills to do this sort of thing, but the capability was always there. But alas, no more (apparently).

Frankly, I think the dumbing down of iMovie is actually intended to serve two purposes. 1. Dumb down the program for the masses. 2. Try to get editors with more know-how and skill to shell out the $ for Final Cut Express. In other words, the (software) party's over for no-budget video editors. Granted, FCE is still a hell of a value, and way more powerful and stable than any previous incarnation of iMovie.

It's not really a big deal to me, as I use Final Cut Pro, but I started on iMovie. BUT -- even as an "entry level program", if iMovie had been that simplistic regarding audio back when version 1 came out, I'm not sure if I would have stuck with it (and Apple).
 
Magic Garageband:a lot what I use in MAGIX Music Studio 12 combined with a virtual drummer, keyboard,etc.

No need for any add-ons.

Actually, it looks like they did include a new Jam Pack...

http://www.apple.com/ilife/garageband/jampacks/

Not sure how this will work, exactly -- all oohs and ahhs?

I think 80% of the upgrade looks to be good. But the new iMovie looks like a disaster for anyone who does more with video than uploading a simple clip to youtube (and how many skateboarding dogs are there in the world?). I can't believe they further dumbed down the audio capabilities. That was (originally) one of the best things about iMovie -- even in version 1 you could replace audio, use audio from one clip under another clip, sync in your own replacement dialogue, etc...you didn't HAVE to develop the skills to do this sort of thing, but the capability was always there. But alas, no more (apparently).

Frankly, I think the dumbing down of iMovie is actually intended to serve two purposes. 1. Dumb down the program for the masses. 2. Try to get editors with more know-how and skill to shell out the $ for Final Cut Express. In other words, the (software) party's over for no-budget video editors. Granted, FCE is still a hell of a value, and way more powerful and stable than any previous incarnation of iMovie.

It's not really a big deal to me, as I use Final Cut Pro, but I started on iMovie. BUT -- even as an "entry level program", if iMovie had been that simplistic regarding audio back when version 1 came out, I'm not sure if I would have stuck with it (and Apple).

I use a combination of Sound Pool from MAGIX and the jam packs.

I've just watched the guided tour, and I am very concerned about this too. Currently an iMovie '04 user, I've been holding off upgrading. Now I see that all the detailed editing skills I've honed over the years, and thought I could continue to use, are likely to be useless. iMovie 08 looks to have dumbed down the Movie creation process to the lowest common denominator. Not sure about these for sure, but my fears:

-no way to have different audio levels within a single track
-no way to extract audio from movies
-no way to have multiple audio tracks on top of each other
-frame by frame counter doesn't seem to be there, so aligning sounds and frames will be impossible. There goes lip sync.... One of my main movie styles is to extract the audio out of a clip, then split the video up and intersperse still photos with the motion picture. Make for an efficient way to show movies / pics and have the narration at the same time. But being able to specify exactly how many frames to make still pics last for, and how many frames to chop, is essential for the lip sync.....
-can you still create a still picture from a frame of a movie ?

I've got to get into my local store and check out whether iMovie 08 is as lame as the guide made it look.....

If it is, then Apple have really disappointed me. Their biggest overhaul took a useful tool that required some brain power to use, and has turned it into a much less useful tool that may appeal to the masses....

The support articles are reinforcing my fears....

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1073559&tstart=0

Me too-I'll check my Apple store (Next Byte), and see how it compares to '06:first version that I've owned.

I just picked up iLife and iworks at my local apple store in Indianapolis, IN.

Any Australian Apple resellers on the Gold Coast have it yet? I might pick my copy up soon.

Did anyone else see this:
garageband_gallery03_20070807.jpg


and immediately think of this:
jam_session3.gif


Now, if only Magic GarageBand would let us play musical chickens like Jam Session for the IIgs did! :D

A lot more cooler than Jam Session in MAGIX Music Studio (warning:a XP screenshot):
magixgb1.png


And no need for BFD or EZDrummer. Now only if Logic Express added that.
 
Based on a quick review of the new iMovie pages, I'm very concerned that iMovie may have lost a significant amount of its power and flexibility. The new features do look nice for the right purpose. No sign of prior version's ability to edit multiple audio tracks, timeline editing, etc.

Hopefully it's all still in there somewhere.

I think this is the "we want you to buy final cut express" move. Hard to believe they REMOVED so many features from a tool...
 
I think this is funny (from Engadget):

"Next up: iMovie. This is really interesting. Let me tell you the story. One of our video engineers went to the Cayman Islands, shot a lot of underwater HD, wanted to make a video for his buddies in half an hour. We found out couldn't do it. Engineer got out Final Cut Pro. Couldn't do it. Couldn't do great movie in 30 minutes. So he created an app that could do it. We were so blown away that we decided to use it. We're still calling it iMovie, but we're giving a new icon so we can show it's a whole new app. One library for all your video."

So one guy obsoleted their iMovie application, that they've been working on quite a lot?

Is possible. Apple programmers doesn't know everything. Sometimes just one person can solve a team problem. I was reading iWoz (the book) and he writes about how his son discover the solution of the OS 9 crashing behavior and solve it for himself because he didn't know it was a big deal. Woz went to Apple to notify them but it was too late Apple was already buying NeXT OS to start from scratch.
 
Then you have just spent $699 and not gain the ability to upload photos directly from your iPhone to your .Mac

Would you rather your $699 investment to be wasted and not used to its fullest potentially or would you rather cut off your own nose to spite your own face as a matter of principle?

$79 is cheap for the software Apple delivers anyway.


Considering my .Mac was only renewed because I forgot to turn off automatic renewal, and I don't think the ability to upload photos from my phone to an online gallery is worth $79, and I have no use for any of the applications outside of iPhoto (which I already own, albeit an older version), I think I'll pass.

Kudos to you for drinking the kool-aid, though.
 
I think this is funny (from Engadget):

"Next up: iMovie. This is really interesting. Let me tell you the story. One of our video engineers went to the Cayman Islands, shot a lot of underwater HD, wanted to make a video for his buddies in half an hour.

I'm still puzzled how he 'couldn't do it' in a half hour. What kind of engineers do they hire there? :) Maybe by taking editing features away form us, there are fewer decisions to make, so you can work faster if you have no choices??
 
Kudos to you for drinking the kool-aid, though.


How about people finding value within the full feature set? Why do you have to assume that because you have little use for a product, everybody else must be the same?
 
I'm still puzzled how he 'couldn't do it' in a half hour. What kind of engineers do they hire there? :) Maybe by taking editing features away form us, there are fewer decisions to make, so you can work faster if you have no choices??

lol, surely it took him more than half an hour to write, debug, test and release iMovie 08.
 
Having not got my hands on iLife '08 yet, I'm excited to give it a try. I liked the old iMovie but it wasn't exactly a speed demon like the new version seems to be. However missing features is not very apple like and I am disappointed at it's lofty requirements. My Mac Pro and Macbook will be ok, but my wife's G4 mini, my mom's iMac G4, and even my dads 1.8 iMac G5 are left in the cold.

I know the installer app won't install iMovie if your system doesn't meet the requirements, but has anyone tried to copy the app over from a supported system to a G4 or Gen A iMac G5?
 
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