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forget the remote option..

I say that you dump the option for the remote and pop $19.95 for Salling Clicker which is way better than apple's IR remote. It's works with your existing Sony Ericsson or Symbian phone, or wi-fi AND bluetooth enabled Pocket PC's and Palm Pilots, and you get a built in screen.
 
BenRoethig said:
Hopefully iWork '06 will include Spreadsheet, Database, and Drawing/Painting programs needed to finally put AppleWorks to rest. They don't have to be up to office standards, they just to need to be better than MS works.
Getting MS Office with Access is a higher priced version of the MS Office suite.

Apple already has a database - FileMaker. People who don't need a database shouldn't be forced to pay for one. And unless Apple does a FileMaker lite, it won't be included in iWork. I can't see Apple making yet another database program. Although it would be nice for the iWork programs to properly link to FileMaker databases.
 
villanova329 said:
I say that you dump the option for the remote and pop $19.95 for Salling Clicker which is way better than apple's IR remote. It's works with your existing Sony Ericsson or Symbian phone, or wi-fi AND bluetooth enabled Pocket PC's and Palm Pilots, and you get a built in screen.
Remember, the remote (as stated in the rumor) is an optional kit and not included as part of iLife itself.

If you don't want the remote, don't buy it. But do you want to leave your cell phone home so other people in the house can use front row?
 
efoto said:
Overall this may be good news, but I am a little bit worried about Apple trying to compete with Excel.
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The spreadsheet part of iWork has to be at least as good as what was in AppleWorks. Version 1.0 won't be an Excel competitor, unless people don't need the extra functionality.

And in truth, if Apple gets iWork to eventually be a proper competitor to MS Office, that's a good thing.

When you first run MS Word on a Mac, it instals a bunch of fonts in ~/Library/Fonts including duplicates of ones that ship as part of Mac OS X. And as we know, duplicate fonts can cause issues.

Also, if you have 5 users on a system, they each get a copy of the fonts. MS Office really needs an option during the install to add the missing fonts to /Library/Fonts for everyone to be able to get at them.
 
Bear said:
Getting MS Office with Access is a higher priced version of the MS Office suite.

Apple already has a database - FileMaker. People who don't need a database shouldn't be forced to pay for one. And unless Apple does a FileMaker lite, it won't be included in iWork. I can't see Apple making yet another database program. Although it would be nice for the iWork programs to properly link to FileMaker databases.

iWork is a consumer suite (AppleWorks/ MS Works) not a professional one (MS office). Filemaker is overkill and overpriced for consumers. Basic spreadsheet and database software is must if this is ever to truly replace Appleworks.
 
earthsaver said:
I'm guessing a bluetooth remote is most likely since it's now standard technology in new Macs and I don't expect that Apple would really return to IR across the line.

Yes...Steve Jobs should *not* be signing off any sort of USB IR dongle. No, no.
 
Bear said:
The spreadsheet part of iWork has to be at least as good as what was in AppleWorks. Version 1.0 won't be an Excel competitor, unless people don't need the extra functionality.

And in truth, if Apple gets iWork to eventually be a proper competitor to MS Office, that's a good thing.

When you first run MS Word on a Mac, it instals a bunch of fonts in ~/Library/Fonts including duplicates of ones that ship as part of Mac OS X. And as we know, duplicate fonts can cause issues.

Also, if you have 5 users on a system, they each get a copy of the fonts. MS Office really needs an option during the install to add the missing fonts to /Library/Fonts for everyone to be able to get at them.

I should have rephrased. I'm not concerned with Apple competing with M$ for Excel-like work for the fact of Apple having the job, I'm all for that. My concern is that they are taking a slingshot to a cannon fight. The only concerns I have lie in the fact that Excel is the one 'complete' app that M$ offers in Office and everyone uses. I hope Apple hasn't bitten off more than they can chew.

The fonts are quite ridiculous, especially considering not all apps can access them either....thanks M$ :p
 
efoto said:
I should have rephrased. I'm not concerned with Apple competing with M$ for Excel-like work for the fact of Apple having the job, I'm all for that. My concern is that they are taking a slingshot to a cannon fight. The only concerns I have lie in the fact that Excel is the one 'complete' app that M$ offers in Office and everyone uses. I hope Apple hasn't bitten off more than they can chew.

I wonder if Apple will surprise us with something revolutionary in the templated-workflow sort of style that Keynote and Pages have used? Excel as a traditional spreadsheet is outstanding. But it's also the most intimidating of the three main Office apps -- in the sense that many people don't know how to do that much with it.
 
BenRoethig said:
iWork is a consumer suite (AppleWorks/ MS Works) not a professional one (MS office). Filemaker is overkill and overpriced for consumers. Basic spreadsheet and database software is must if this is ever to truly replace Appleworks.

So if you use iWork in your business, that means you aren't "professional?"
 
villanova329 said:
I say that you dump the option for the remote and pop $19.95 for Salling Clicker which is way better than apple's IR remote. It's works with your existing Sony Ericsson or Symbian phone, or wi-fi AND bluetooth enabled Pocket PC's and Palm Pilots, and you get a built in screen.

I don't want to have to look at my remote (to see the on-screen buttons) just to change channels. (Or do Pocket PCs or Palm Pilots have enough buttons?) For something I use every day I wouldn't mind paying $50 for a nice simple remote.
 
ctachme said:
$50 for the REMOTE? That's insane! You can get universal remotes from amazon that have 3x the functionality for less than $10.

Yes, you can. But Apple's remote is $29 and we all know that we pay for the Apple logo and their great sense of style. I think that (if the rumor is true) it can be pretty much taken that it will be a Bluetooth remote.

For me, the interesting question is whether this new Bluetooth remote will have a proper scrollwheel - it would give iMac+iSight owners a reason to upgrade ;)
 
mdavey said:
Yes, you can. But Apple's remote is $29 and we all know that we pay for the Apple logo and their great sense of style. I think that (if the rumor is true) it can be pretty much taken that it will be a Bluetooth remote.

For me, the interesting question is whether this new Bluetooth remote will have a proper scrollwheel - it would give iMac+iSight owners a reason to upgrade ;)

I thought the same thing when I saw the Apple remote: a click wheel would be much better.
 
Lacero said:
This has been predicted by many folks, especially Front Row being included as a stand-alone software package for older Macs. Yay! :D

Thanks to all the recent iMac G5 owners for beta testing FR for the rest of us. :p

$50 ($58 CDN) is a bit much for the remote.

Here's to the Crazy Ones

I was going to suggest the remote control that's been out there for a while, but it's slightly more money; however, it also works directly with Airport Express.

Keyspan's remote
 
ctachme said:
$50 for the REMOTE? That's insane! You can get universal remotes from amazon that have 3x the functionality for less than $10.

Oh, and don't forget.... only the iMac has an IR port (unless this is for my Performa 6240CD?), so you'd have to buy some sort of wireless adaptor to take up a USB port. And if you have an iBook, it'll probably take up ALL of your USB ports, just to make you mad.

I'm guessing it is $50 for remote, receiver & the FrontRow software.

Though I doubt this will happen, becasue I called this back when the new iMacs first came out, and I'm never right about anything! :p

Why would you want this on a laptop (other than to have Apple's latest eye candy)? To me this seems much better suited to a desktop vs. a laptop (unless you have a big ole' 17" powerbook maybe).
 
iWork 'O6 will be my first software purchase of the year...

if, and only if, Keynote gets a significant upgrade.

With some more work, Keynote can and will become reason in and of itself to buy a mac.

I've wowed enough audiences with Keynote that a few people have switched to macs just for presentations, but Keynote is still lagging PowerPoint in a few important areas.

Quicktime integration is atrocious (the irony here is obvious). You can't stop, rewind, step through, QT movies, and you can't use QTVR at all from within Keynote. There are many other minor annoyances that could be easily improved, and hopefully will be.

My fondest hopes are for some real innovation: I picture using my powerbook to give a Keynote presentation, and simultaneously recording my presentation (including pointer movements on the presentation screen) so that the presentation can be saved/reviewed/streamed (by me, to improve on it, or by the attendees, to catch something they missed, or by people who couldn't make it, or, best-of-all, streamed out so that people who can't physically attend can virtually attend). Obviously, the technology to do this is already in place, but no presentation software utilizes it. What would be truly excellent is if an interactive mode could be toggled by the presenter (say, at the end of a presentation, for example) to allow virtual attendees to ask questions or otherwise participate using iChat AV.

I've sent this to Apple as a feedback, and hope to see something emerge in the next incarnation of Keynote.

Cheers
 
I think my original idea was to include an iSight in the package as well, though updated to integrate the IR receiver into the iSight. Then Photobooth could be bundled as well.

So an iLife '06 with the existing programs and then a 'buy-up' version of iLife '06 that also includes an iSight, remote, Front Row & Photobooth.

But as I said already, I'm never right so I doubt this would happen...
 
BenRoethig said:
iWork is a consumer suite (AppleWorks/ MS Works) not a professional one (MS office). Filemaker is overkill and overpriced for consumers. Basic spreadsheet and database software is must if this is ever to truly replace Appleworks.

There is a very fine line between "Pro" and "Consumer" these days. There are a great number of people that use MS Office at work and become familiar with it so they eventually get a copy for home. And since Publisher is considered part of MS Office (Small Bussiness Edition) it naturally becomes the DTP app of choice for alot of "Consumers".
What Apple needs to do is concentrate on putting out the best product that they can put out. Not something that puts your computer at risk. (MS Office)
I believe that with the switch to Intel the superiority of Apple products vs MS product will eventually win out in the market place.

With that said I would like to point out what seems to be a major flaw in Pages. The absence of an automatic save. MS Word has this feature, and when you live in a rural area where the power flickers on and off because of the local mill you really need that feature.
I would really like to see Pages either become a full blown Word processor or a full blown DTP. What I would really like to see is Apple aquire Swift Publisher from BeLight software.
At anyrate I will probably get iWork 06.
 
For me iLlife 06 will need something more to really put it over the must buy line. Maybe a new iSight with HD that comes bundled with the remote might do it if iLife 06 provides a bunch of upgradd support and new video features.
 
m-dogg said:
Why would you want [FrontRow] on a laptop ... this seems much better suited to a desktop

You probably wouldn't except possibly to watch DVDs on a 'plane (have DVD player switch into FrontRow for fullscreen mode) - but is it really that big a deal to hit Apple-0?

It would be really interesting to see if Apple offer the remote as an option for iWork also. Controlling Keynote from the Apple remote would be neat. Hmm, I can just imagine Jobs demonstrating just that at MWSF.

"Six buttons. Just six buttons! Just six buttons!" - Jobs
 
earthsaver said:
I'm guessing a bluetooth remote is most likely since it's now standard technology in new Macs and I don't expect that Apple would really return to IR across the line.

The iMac remotes use IR as do the iPod remote for the universal dock.

In fact, you can use the iMac remote to control the universal dock.

I'm guessing IR for this reason - that iMac and iPod dock uses IR.
 
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