iLife: how many computers?

[bigandy]

i remember when i started at uni we were running office V.x on the macs there. they wouldn't pay for all the licenses so we installed it on all the machines. when you came to fire up word, or excel and someone else on the local LAN was using it already it said "there is only one license for office. office will now quit."

you just pulled out the network cable and fired it up again, and it was fine.

two years down the line and the university paid for all our copies of office 2004. although i'm not bothered about giving microsoft ANY money, just apple. lol.

maybe ilife/iwork or both will do something like that.

 

[Timelessblur]

I honestly dont see apple working with univiersty to cut a deal with them to get out there products.

I know M$ is very helpful education wise it comes to that. I know my school pays M$ a several mil a year for the right to give out most of there products to the students. But when you talking about 27+k students that really a great deal and something like 1K plus of software for most students that really is a good deal (basicly the highest level of most of MS software for both Macs and PCs).
Apple just doest not really do that. I not going to complain about MS doing what it does I going to give them props and quite glad that they are doing that. Considering I got Office 03 pro, Visal studios and I would say XP pro but I already had that but either way just the first 2 alone break 1k by a good margen. The is more advible but I had no use for it so I never bother getting it.

 

[denm316]

The current way retail copies of Office work(for windows) are that there is a cd-key entered during the install which enables the product to run for 30 days. Within that 30 day period you must activate via the internet.

This is how Microsoft now stops serial number abuse, they also do this on some retail copies of Windows XP.

 

[Mantat]

All software is overpriced, including from Apple and i have no problem breaking "home licenses".

You are displaying your ignorance right there. Software cost ridiculous amount to code and this amount keep increasing.

Of course, product who are found on 90% of all pc (ex: windows) could be sold for much lower price but when you are talking about somethign that will be used by a fraction of the market, there is a big dif.

Software developpement risk are extremely high, so you need a very high yeild to invest in it because for every product that sell well, there might be 10 that fail. So you need to cover that too. I am not even talking about the fact that you need to support the product for a few years after that.

Obviously, you dont work in the software industry. I do, would I see an idiot with a pirated copy of my product, I would smash his head on the concrete.

There is no excuse for software piracy when you are an user that benefit from the software! None! If you get benefit from the softare, you have to pay for it! If you dont think the price is fair, buy an used copy of an older version or get a shareware equivalent. If you cant find any, maybe it means that the software is so important to you that it deserve to be paid for!

To be back on the topic:
Edu pricing isnt related at all with the fact that the product would be used in school or for school work. Its only a perk people working in the edu world have, that is all. I worked at an university (staff) and was eligible for edu rebates the only restriction is that it should not be used to make money with.

 

[combatcolin]

No sympathy mate.

Software is overpriced.

 

[Mantat]

No sympathy mate.

Software is overpriced.

Elaborate? Explain yourself?

Comments like that only do two things:
- show your ignorance
- frustrate me to see that other might share your point of view, without valid argument

But I guess that what ever YOU do, you probably deserve a raise, that you are underpaid and governement take too much taxes... Or you simply are a student and dont know the value of money...

edit: stupid typo

 

[munkle]

No sympathy mate.

Software is overpriced.

🙄

Mantat, I feel for you trying to talk sense into this guy. Some people are just too ignorant. And how could you possibly compete after a great comeback line like that?! 🙄 Pr**k.

 

[combatcolin]

How can companys justify asking buckets of cash for a product and then give the bugger away for free in a few years.

Face it, people pirate because they don't want to pay massive rip off prices.

Look at DVD and CD sales, never been higher because they are well priced.

So get off your high horse and taste real life.

If its good and affordable i'll consider it.

If its good but overpriced i'll obtain it by other means and feel no guilt.

Open Source has shown us that good software need not be stupid prices.

And on a last note, should only people who work in the Software industry be paid high wages and earn respect?

Thought not.

 

[Abstract]

If I buy software and install it on 2 computers, I don't feel guilty. I almost feel as if its a single user agreement, meaning that I won't give the software to anybody else. As long as I'm the person using the software, I don't feel like I'm doing anything criminal. I only find it criminal to give the software to a friend, or spread it around the internet or something. That is clearly wrong, but I feel that using the software you purchased on your own laptop and desktop to me is the equivalent of jay-walking.

If iWork requires a serial number, is it even going to be possible to install it on two different machines?

If you aren't hooked up to the internet, it would be difficult for the software to NOT be installed. But as described in this thread already, there are ways around that. The problem is that under System Requirements, it must also say that you require an internet connection to use your software, since software companies use it to check and make sure that your copy of the software only gets installed on a single computer. But it must ask for internet connection under the Requirements. It should also state the EULA on the box, not just INSIDE the box.

 

[Abstract]

iLife does not require a serial number. iWork does.

That's what I thought when I was reading the posts before yours. I thought I was getting a bit confused about the situation, but now I KNOW I'm confused.

As far as I know, iWorks asks for a serial number, but iLife 05 does not.

 

[Duff-Man]

And on a last note, should only people who work in the Software industry be paid high wages and earn respect?

Thought not.

Duff-Man says....you talk about earning respect, but you won't respect the license agreements for the software you use....hmmm.

Anyway....it has been my experience on this board (and others) that raely will you get a hard-core pirate like this person to change their mind and respect license agreements so I suggest just letting the thread die instead of flogging it to death a thousand times over....oh yeah!

 

[combatcolin]

I have never pirated any software, not now, nor when i had a Spectrum and Amiga years ago or my iMac 6 years ago.

Just been given it by my friends when the subject pops up in conversation.

 

[combatcolin]

Actually, now i come to think about virtually all the bloggo software i use is for the PC.

I've bought more non - game software for my Mac than Games