iLife, iTunes 5.0, Keynote 2.0

[wdlove]

Re: Re: Pay

Originally posted by rdowns
I don't think that would go over very well in the Mac community. Apple is still smarting over the free iTools to .Mac switch.

If Apple does decide to charge, I'd like to see a .Mac professional that costs a bit more than the current fee and includes free iLife upgrades. Of course, that would force Apple to upgrade them annually.

That sounds like a great suggestion, maybe they could include Keynote. Apple would definitely have more subscribers toe .Mac is it included more benefits.

 

[Sayhey]

Originally posted by alset
I hope they release iTunes 5 for Win and Mac at the same time. Apple needs to show Wintel users that they are not second-class citizens at iTMS. Just think how much it bugs us to see games six months after the PC version.

Dan

I couldn't agree more. I only use a mac, but if the other 95% is to be persuaded that Apple products are a better alternative now is not the time to play with Microsoft tactics. That also goes to the question of opening Fairplay for use on other systems. I don't know what roadblocks Apple would face, but iTunes and iTMS compatibility on other players would benefit Apple in the long run. Now is the time to show windows users the real meaning of innovation.

 

[Phil Of Mac]

Re: Re: word processor

Originally posted by GregAussie
Hopefully their word processor will do web pages, I'd love it to do web sites.

With all due respect, what's the damn point?

Apple should spearhead the development of a standard, open, XML-based word processing format.

 

[MacsRgr8]

Re: I'm hoping to see support for Ogg Vorbis

Originally posted by jocknerd
but I'm not holding my breath.

It would also be nice to see iTunes for Linux but I know that ain't happening.

Check this out!

Ogg Vorbis in QT/iTunes

 

[GregA]

Re: word processor

Originally posted by JoeRadar
One of the major problems with staying compatible with Word is that you need to be bug-for-bug compatible as well.<snip> If Apple did supported this correctly, then Apple would break MS Word compatibility.

I have heard from a Samba developer that they had similar bug problems. They developed to Microsofts file sharing specs and then couldn't connect to other machines. Eventually they wrote the file sharing the way it should have been, and added some inconsistencies (bugs?) to handle connection to the various versions of Windows.

 

[GregA]

Re: word processor

When I mentioned an Apple word processor making web pages, mainstreetmark replied:

That whole concept leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I've had to clean up Word-produced HTML, which is the WORST HTML you can ever run across. DreamWeaver even includes a program to remove all that crappy HTML.

If Apple has a "Save as HTML...", it better be standard stuff.

Your last line is the point - to write GOOD html. I too have cleaned up MS Word webpages - I cleaned 350 pages and the end result looked identical in IE, was a fraction of the size, and worked better in other browsers.

While I see the point for a separate application to manage a website, to edit a webpage there's a certain sense to using the same application as writing a document - either restrict the tools when doing HTML, or lose some sophistication when saving as HTML.

And about a shared open file format for all wordprocessors, JoeRadar replied:

<snip> today I suspect a format would be based on XML. (Apple went this way with Keynote).

A new XML format for word processing documents could be a superset of XHTML. You would inherit a lot of existing tools, such as CSS editors; organizations could even use one set of CSS standards for both web and document publishing, ensuring a consistent look.

And with a little more work, the word processor could output clean XHTML that closely mirrored your original document.

Based on XML is a great idea. One set of CSS standards in a company is also good. Of course it's still a starting point - making a document identical in different apps will be difficult.

You've got me wondering - HTML has functionality for simpler browsers to display an alternative page - If you open a framed page in a non-frame browser it displays the simpler <noframes> info.

Could an XML document save 2 versions in 1 document? One that is the simple one for web pages, the other with the greater functionality for apps and web browsers that support it?

 

[Token]

blog

I know there are other apps that can do it, but it would also seem logical for Apple to include a 'blogging' feature in the word processor, combined with .mac of course.

 

[Montserrat]

Duw this one just vanished didn't it...
Keynote 2.0, I wish.
Apple Wp, I wish
iLife '04, I wish
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