I've used Android and iOS plenty in the past. I'm not really going to be surprised by the Note 4, but from what I've seen I do expect it to be one hell of a solid device.
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I'm about to have it with iOS 8..
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I've used Android and iOS plenty in the past. I'm not really going to be surprised by the Note 4, but from what I've seen I do expect it to be one hell of a solid device.
Now, I am not disagreeing that iOS 8 is one of the worst releases for iOS ever, but all of the issues you are talking about are non-existent to me. I don't use Health so let's not even count that one. I'm constantly watching in stream video on Safari and always using multitasking gestures.
FWIW, I did a fresh install of 8.1 before the 8.1.1 update dropped on my iPhone. Since then the only major issue I have experienced is if you have the screen down and place it face down onto your shirt while laying down persay, the digitizer locks up and I have enter multitasking to get it working again. (I have a 6 Plus)
My iPad Air 2 was fresh from the factory and I set it up as new. It came running 8.1 which I promtly upgraded to 8.1.1 and starting putting my data back (I did have an iPad before but I decided to start fresh). I have yet to encounter any major issues with it other then small bugs here and there.
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This is getting interesting. Remember Multi-fingers Gestures stopped working on my iPad? I switched it off and didn't re-start. And later I can't swiped for Control Centre and Notification Centre. Only Spotlight worked.
I still didn't re-start. I was thinking about doing a fresh install.
Today I grabbed my iPad to check some news and with curiosity I swiped up for Control Centre.. and it worked! Suddenly it just worked.
So I turned on multi-fingers Gestures and that worked too. And I don't even have to do a restart.
What's just happening?
This iPad is really strange.
I'm about to do a fresh re-install but then suddenly most of the bugs just, um.., disappeared, and I didn't even do a re-start. It's just.. gone. A multi-fingers gestures still wonky but I don't have to re-start to fix it anymore, just sleep it and re-wake it up and it will be good again.
I can't remember the last time I re-started my iPad. Really strange.
And my iPhone issue with Strava? I just signed out and signed back in and all the data re-synced.
What-the-hell-happened? It just suddenly... works.
I'm about to have it with iOS 8..
You must not have used android for a few years or have been using low to mid range devices. It's not the laggy OS it once was. Google has done a fantastic job.
You must not have used android for a few years or have been using low to mid range devices. It's not the laggy OS it once was. Google has done a fantastic job.
Its been three years since I had android. It was bad and that was the reason I a switched from android. And what I understand that except nexus, all other versions are still buggy.
I remember my Droid 2 was a dog compared to my iPhone 4 when I got it. I know Android has changed and I am not going to lie the Nexus 6 looks really nice. I love my iPhone though.
So...it's been 3 years since you've used Android. So what is that, Android had been mainstream for a year or two? iOS currently isn't a shining example of "it just works"....for that matter neither is OS X or the hardware pushing either platform...
Frickin fanbois...
Heck even the non pure Android experience these days isn't bad. Moto has done an excellent job while maintaining almost PURE AOSP, Touchwiz, while bloated, has a lot of useful features; see Note series, and HTC Sense has came around finally. I'm a lover of all devices but prefer AOSP for Android. iOS I could not live with without jailbreaking.
I'm also very sick of iOS 8-8.1.1. Safari randomly stops loading web pages and I have to turn the wifi off and back on. Have to do this a few times a day. Doesn't matter if on on my 5gz or 2.4ghz network. I have no issues with my android phone or any other devices on my wifi. This only started after iOS 8. Noticed it on my mini before getting the air 2.
Haha same here. I switched from droid to the iphone 4 and was so impressed. Cant believe Im considering switching back! The only droid hardware I like is the Note 4 and its just way to big.
Sounds like newer features and hardware are buggy. I have very few problems with iOS 8.1.1 on my iPhone 5 and 1st gen iPad Mini. Health is so limited that I don't use it, and I don't use the gestures even though they've been around for a bit. Videos play fine for me.
What kept me from Android after getting my iPhone was the skins (since none of the Nexus phones after the original one worked on Verizon). Plus now I'm basically invested in the Apple eco-system and getting an Android phone really breaks that. I know it sounds trivial but being able to answer calls on my iPad is really handy I find myself using it a LOT.
I got a Moto a few months ago, and the main issue for me is an android issue: the scrolling and especially zooming everywhere (Chrome, photos, etc) is not as one-to-one with your finger, so the screen feedback is not as responsive. The worse issue is that zooming is not one-to-one with your finger, it is half that, meaning you need to do two zoom gestures in order to do what one zoom gesture does in iOS. This is simply frustrating and illogical to me. It is a touchscreen computer, and Google should be able to write software that accurately responds to your finger.
Scrolling is smooth though, but it feels like your finger is trying to zoom/pan while moving through butter. On iOS it feels like your finger is exactly one-to-one with the screen, which is a much better experience IMO.
Besides that, android is very smooth (albeit 'buttery' smooth as previously described). And fast for the most part except for lags before opening some apps. I thought the android 4.3 software design was becoming stale, but android 5.0 would fix that. And the actual feel and quality of Moto hardware in-hand (which is one of the best for android) didn't come close to the great quality and feel of Apple hardware IMO.
Also, web browsing on the advanced A7 and A8 processors is faster than basically every android phone processor, which is a huge plus for iOS hardware.
In all, android is compelling, but the scrolling/zooming behavior is not a good experience to me. For this and other reasons, I do not prefer the experience of using an android as a day-to-day device over a recent iOS device.
Likewise. My phone now sits in a central location when I am at home since my iPad is always close.
The only issue I have had with OS 8 has been getting the control panel to swipe now and then. I think I have had to reboot my 6+ 2 twice since I got it to get it working again. It's been a mostly trouble free phone.
I came from a Galaxy Note 3 which I had to reboot at least once a day to keep it happy and going. I was on an Android phone for about 3 years. I was absolutely in love with the Galaxy Note 2 that I had before the 3.
I came from a Galaxy Note 3 which I had to reboot at least once a day to keep it happy and going. I was on an Android phone for about 3 years. I was absolutely in love with the Galaxy Note 2 that I had before the 3.
Interesting points. I don't want to switch to Android. I'm sure there are quirks that would get annoying. But the reason I switched from Android in the first place was because of inconsistency, and my experience on the iPhone 4 was rock solid. Everything worked consistently. Since iOS 7, the iPhone has been so inconsistent. I move the phone from portrait to landscape, and it does nothing. It's not my phone, I've seen it on others including at the Apple store. The very cool multi-gesture controls on iPad (like 5 finger home) don't work. The minor frustrations add up, and I'm left with the same feeling toward iOS that i had for Android years ago when I switched.
I mean, Apple Pay and all of these new features are great. But when basic stuff is breaking, what good is it?
I have never experienced these issues that you and many others on this forum speak of. I have always had a consistent experience with iOS devices. I also wait for at least one x.1 bug fix release before updating any device. Never had any issues. Now, I did not like the experience of 512MB RAM devices on iOS 7+ because the OS did not free up enough RAM for my usage scenarios. So, this was a point in which iOS's added features simply made it too advanced for 512MB of RAM in my usage. This wasn't an issue, just an expected progression.
I am getting really sick of it also on my 6 Plus. I have recently started having tons of app crashes on stock apps (phone and messages mainly) that cause me to have to close them from multitasking and sometimes do a reset. I have never had as many issues with an iPhone as I am having with my 6 Plus and it is incredibly discouraging.
I have been down the android road (nexus 5 was the last one) and while I enjoyed it I just prefer a lot of the features of iOS (iMessage, hand off, etc) so I don't want to switch back knowing that out of the two I really do prefer iOS I am just really frustrated with having to deal with all this stuff.
I have been down the android road (nexus 5 was the last one) and while I enjoyed it I just prefer a lot of the features of iOS (iMessage, hand off, etc) so I don't want to switch back knowing that out of the two I really do prefer iOS I am just really frustrated with having to deal with all this stuff.
iOS8 isn't the worst of all iOSes, iOS 2.x was much worse. Then iOS 5.0-1 very buggy and unstable. Last year's iOS 7.1 not great,
I would say iOS 8 is third place in terms of bugs and instability.
The problem I see there is that Apple is not able to polish it, that's why it looks like the worst one. Currently on 8.1.2 and still lots of same old bugs..
In previous versions, Apple was always able to polish iOS in x.x.1 updates.. this is something which has been changed with iOS8..
I would say iOS 8 is third place in terms of bugs and instability.
The problem I see there is that Apple is not able to polish it, that's why it looks like the worst one. Currently on 8.1.2 and still lots of same old bugs..
In previous versions, Apple was always able to polish iOS in x.x.1 updates.. this is something which has been changed with iOS8..
