I'm beginning to think that this isn't a conspiracy.

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  1. iObama macrumors 6502a

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    We've all heard it. "My iPhone is listening to me and serving me ads." We've all been suspicious that it has, and we've all snapped ourselves out of believing it.

    I've been keeping a log, as it's been happening to me quite a bit with Twitter, where I'll be served ads (usually) two days after I have a conversation about something I've never spoken about before.

    Today was by far the creepiest one.

    The other day, my friend and I were driving under the Bay Bridge in Oakland. He started telling me about how they recently started using security robots to police the underside of the bridge and prevent trespassing. We talked about it for approximately two minutes or so, and about how robots will take over jobs like that in the near future.

    Today, I was scrolling through Twitter. What ad did it serve me?

    "Invest in the future of public safety with autonomous security robots!"

    Creepy, right?
     
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  3. BigDO macrumors 6502

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    ITT, opie goes full potato.

    Never go full potato.
     
  4. iObama thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Turned off.

    And why would the ad they serve me for the Bay Bridge be for an autonomous security apparatus?
     
  5. BeeGood macrumors 68000

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    At least your ads are interesting. All I get are ads for mobile games.

    Then again, I do play a lot of mobile games.
     
  6. rijc99 macrumors 6502a

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    I'm not saying this applies to this instance but there are a lot of conspiracies that turn out to be true. IE. Yahoo scanning all emails for the NSA/FBI, NSA's Optic Nerve program, all the other monitoring programs and capabilities leaked by Snowden, secret US medical experiments, etc.
     
  7. BeeGood macrumors 68000

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    It's definitely possible that Apple has used Siri'd "always listening" capability to collect data and serve up ads to us. But it's difficult to imagine Apple running that kind of reputation all risk in order to add to a revenue stream that isn't really all that important to them.
     
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    Do you have Siri enabled? I don't have Siri enabled so I'm wondering if this would effect me.
     
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    One time I made a comment to a friend about a John Deere tractor.

    The next day I saw an ad for a John Deere tractor on Facebook. I didn't get on the internet looking for John Deere tractors or ANYTHING.

    Not joking, not trolling, not poking fun. I'm dead serious.

    It's the only time it's ever happened but it still haunts me to this day.
     
  10. Booloo macrumors regular

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    I've heard it from a few people. It's not as crazy as you may think. How many apps do you "allow access to microphone"? Instagram, Facebook, Google... if those apps are running it makes sense that key words picked up + location based ads is what's giving you these results.

    It's not like anyone reads Terms and Conditions before using an app, and "Access to your microphone" is pretty vague.
     
  11. rijc99 macrumors 6502a

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    Add AT&T's Project Hemisphere to the list of stuff we thought could never be taking place.

    Privacy is dead.
     
  12. iObama, Oct 27, 2016
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    I try and limit microphone usage. I don't have Facebook on my phone anymore and I've blocked mic usage for Insta.

    Honestly, I keep a list of this happening because it's happened so often to me. (For instance, last week I talked about how my hands were sweaty and two days later I was served an ad about how to stop sweaty hands.) But this was the most blatant. Autonomous. Security. Robots.

    Incredibly specific.
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    I do have Siri enabled, including Hey Siri. This has happened to me before on phones that I didn't have Hey Siri enabled on, however.
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    I don't know if it's Apple, per se. Facebook and Twitter seem to be incredibly flippant with privacy.
     
  13. willmtaylor macrumors G3

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    Then again, it's also possible that this happens all the time, and we never notice. You only noticed this time because the conversation was fresh in your mind.

    Ever bought a car and then suddenly noticed all the other cars just like yours? Same deal.

    The cost/benefit for Apple in this regard would ever pan out. They have ZERO motivation to spy on their users.
     
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    I'm pretty sure it's the "Hi Siri" feature that is the culprit as in order for Siri to turn on when you say "Hi Siri" it implies that the IPhone's microphone is constantly listening, Its just a fact. That's one of the things I turn of right away whenever I get a new iPhone, I keep Siri on but certainly turn off "Hi Siri", Apple may claim otherwise but I do believe that if you have Hi siri turned on then the IPhone might be collecting random detected microphone input hence why the weird coincidences people are expiriencing.
     
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    Because of your visits to tech sites and so on....
    It's a culmination.
     
  16. iObama thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Correct, which is why I said I don't think it's Apple.

    Facebook, Google, and Twitter have a hundred percent motivation to spy on their users.
     
  17. willmtaylor macrumors G3

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    100% agree. We are the product. Advertisers are the customers.
     
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    I have definitly been nervous about this for a long time. I really feel like the iPhones listen to us to a point. I don't think they are keeping track of our conversations and I don't think that Apple is listening to us all the time, I think that everything is being done on the iPhone and the data is definitly encrypted. Hopefully.
     
  19. Steve686 macrumors 68030

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    Our country would be much further ahead in the war on terror if it could simply listen in on any phone at any time.....
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    And just for chits and giggles.

    How about someone test out the theory by facetiously vowing to do harm to the CIC of the US?
     
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    how crazy is hell?
     
  22. Channan macrumors 68030

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    I normally don't even notice ads so now I'm going to start paying attention...
     

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