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I'm going to "Unexpectedly Quit" using Macs!
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On my system (still running Jaguar) I can read my logs using Console... so why would you send someone to the Terminal instead of just opening the logs in Console?yellow said:
Or, as I pointed out, in Apple System Profiler?
What is not supported? Reading the logs? Is that what you are talking about?
Console or Apple System Profiler, either of which works quite nicely and both are easier than sending someone to the Terminal to type in commands just to read a crash log.
In this case it had been by Jaguar and is a better choice for helping people with troubleshooting. We are trying to help people, right? Why send people to the terminal when there were two easy to use GUI alternatives available?
You did know about those, right? You weren't trying to make it harder for Jaguar users because you just didn't remember, right?
I bow to your obviously superior knowledge of the intricate workings of log reading.
I guess that's what you get for free help, wot?
I guess that's what you get for free help, wot?
I get the damn messages:
in Photoshop when using the Shear function
in Mozilla when I use the search bookmarks function (big deal, I keep my bookmarks organized)
in Safari IF I use it
in JGrasp not often when it sits still
in DVD Player sometimes when the disk is scratched...gah, luckily there is MacTheRipper
in ... well, that seems to be all I want to mention.
in Photoshop when using the Shear function
in Mozilla when I use the search bookmarks function (big deal, I keep my bookmarks organized)
in Safari IF I use it
in JGrasp not often when it sits still
in DVD Player sometimes when the disk is scratched...gah, luckily there is MacTheRipper
in ... well, that seems to be all I want to mention.
My Powermac has been acting like a completely different machine since the last 2 updates. I'm getting the dreaded unexpected Quits left and right.
AIM Quits When I close out any chat or profile window. It also says "AIM Unexpectedly Quit" when I atually close the program out in the menu
Both Safari and Firefox are doing it randomly on a daily basis.
Ichat barely works anymore. It will not let me add buddies, send AIM users pictures, and I get Unexpected quits every 15 min or so. Adium also is giving me the same problems.
Flash MX closes when I try to preview files.
I could go on and on. What I do not understand is that I always repair permissions before installing new software. I also run Micromat Tech Tools 4 every 2 weeks to keep my machine up to par. I've never had a single problem with Panther until installing the last two updates. So frustrating.
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Dual 1.25 g4
1.5 GB Ram
2x 120 Seagate Barracudas
ATI 9800 pro
8x Superdrive
AIM Quits When I close out any chat or profile window. It also says "AIM Unexpectedly Quit" when I atually close the program out in the menu
Both Safari and Firefox are doing it randomly on a daily basis.
Ichat barely works anymore. It will not let me add buddies, send AIM users pictures, and I get Unexpected quits every 15 min or so. Adium also is giving me the same problems.
Flash MX closes when I try to preview files.
I could go on and on. What I do not understand is that I always repair permissions before installing new software. I also run Micromat Tech Tools 4 every 2 weeks to keep my machine up to par. I've never had a single problem with Panther until installing the last two updates. So frustrating.
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Dual 1.25 g4
1.5 GB Ram
2x 120 Seagate Barracudas
ATI 9800 pro
8x Superdrive
I had endless quits and crashes when running MacOS 9, because I'd commonly be using around six or seven big apps at the same time - Word, Quark, Photoshop, IE, Acrobat Reader, Eudora, Toast - which was necessary for the work I was doing then.
But since getting a G4 PowerBook with a gig of memory and Panther I haven't had the same stuff at all. At first I had a few crashes, but downloading MacJanitor and running it every now and then helped.
But since getting a G4 PowerBook with a gig of memory and Panther I haven't had the same stuff at all. At first I had a few crashes, but downloading MacJanitor and running it every now and then helped.
There are usually 2 main causes of unexpected quits (app crashes, etc):
The only thing with memory is that usually if it's really bad, you'll also get the entire OS crashing fairly frequently. We had some bad 3rd party memory for some PowerBooks at work, and they usually crashed hard within an hour of booting up. Ran great with only the Apple memory. With the replacement from the memory vendor, they run much better - usually for weeks or months at a time. But I still get a few more "unexpectedly quit" applications on these machines than any other Macs I use. So I suspect the replacement memory still isn't 100% good, it's just waaaay better than the first batch.
- Software bugs. By far the most common, this is usually when a program tries to access memory that it doesn't have permission to access.
- Bad memory. If many different applications are quitting on you, it's time to suspect your memory. If you have any third party memory, pull it out and see if that makes any difference. If not, then it's probably just bugs.
The only thing with memory is that usually if it's really bad, you'll also get the entire OS crashing fairly frequently. We had some bad 3rd party memory for some PowerBooks at work, and they usually crashed hard within an hour of booting up. Ran great with only the Apple memory. With the replacement from the memory vendor, they run much better - usually for weeks or months at a time. But I still get a few more "unexpectedly quit" applications on these machines than any other Macs I use. So I suspect the replacement memory still isn't 100% good, it's just waaaay better than the first batch.
I get quite a few "Unexpectedly Quit" messages (sometimes not even that, just the application closing for no reason) in OS9.2.1, but the only application that does this is: Internet Explorer 5.1.x (tried all verisons, even 5.1.7, and they all unexpectedly quit at random intervals, sometimes taking the entire computer with it, forcing a restart).
However, since I downloded Mac Messenger 3.4, and I run it alongside IE5.1.7 and Athena IRC2.0.2, the Finder has sometimes unexpectedly quit (completely random - no pattern), which then causes everything to lock up and me to reboot.
If it wasn't for my iMac only having a 350MHz processor, and most of my apps needing more powerful processors in OSX (if they actually run in X!), I'd upgrade right now.
However, since I downloded Mac Messenger 3.4, and I run it alongside IE5.1.7 and Athena IRC2.0.2, the Finder has sometimes unexpectedly quit (completely random - no pattern), which then causes everything to lock up and me to reboot.
If it wasn't for my iMac only having a 350MHz processor, and most of my apps needing more powerful processors in OSX (if they actually run in X!), I'd upgrade right now.
Maybe if you wait until 2006-2007 you'll be able to get a 3.5 GHz (3500 MHz, 10x what you've got now) iMac for about the same price as your 350 MHz iMac. Talk about a serious power boost! Sure, unexpected quits are annoying, but most of the time they're caused by software bugs - report these to the software developers and they can hopefully get the problem fixed. Speaking of reporting unexpected quits, QuickTime Player quits randomly on me when I try to play certain MIDI files. I submitted a bug report to Apple, but they closed it because they could not reproduce the problem.thomasp said:
The most common apps that unexpectedly quit on me:
- MPlayer 2: but it doesn't quit the entire app, just the player window after I've closed it. So it doesn't hurt anything, just leaves a dialog box that I have to close.
- Safari: I've switched to using Firefox more often these days, even though I like Safari's UI better. I'm convinced that the main problem is that websites are usually designed to work on Windows and Safari is not.
- IE: like the others said, it's only to be used when absolutely necessary. It has to be the worst piece of popular software in the world
I've had some issues with some small shareware and freeware apps, but this is not Apple's fault. You get what you pay for.
- MPlayer 2: but it doesn't quit the entire app, just the player window after I've closed it. So it doesn't hurt anything, just leaves a dialog box that I have to close.
- Safari: I've switched to using Firefox more often these days, even though I like Safari's UI better. I'm convinced that the main problem is that websites are usually designed to work on Windows and Safari is not.
- IE: like the others said, it's only to be used when absolutely necessary. It has to be the worst piece of popular software in the world
I've had some issues with some small shareware and freeware apps, but this is not Apple's fault. You get what you pay for.