iPhone I'm jailbroken on 7.0.4, in order to be jailbroken on 7.0.6...


darthlinux

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Do I have to restore my phone and apply the jailbreak again, or can I just OTA update?
Restore your phone so the jailbreak has been removed then update to the new firmware and once that's done you'll need to jailbreak again using the new updated tool. DO NOT USE THE OTA UPDATE.
 

zone23

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I find the easy way of doing it is to:

1.) backup phone with itunes

2.) power off phone

3.) With the itunes open still and the cable plug into the computer enter DFU mode by pressing and holding power and the home button until the phone shows the plug and cable thing

4.) Itunes will say it has detected your phone is in restore mode and must be restored so do it

5.) restore backup and all apps after restore

6.) download latest JB and install

7.) profit
 

Swagged

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Restore your phone so the jailbreak has been removed then update to the new firmware and once that's done you'll need to jailbreak again using the new updated tool. DO NOT USE THE OTA UPDATE.
You cannot install any OTA or any itunes ios updates on a JB iphone.
Your only option is to restore and then JB and load your stuff up again.
Got it. Thanks.
 

eyoungren

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I find the easy way of doing it is to:

1.) backup phone with itunes

2.) power off phone

3.) With the itunes open still and the cable plug into the computer enter DFU mode by pressing and holding power and the home button until the phone shows the plug and cable thing

4.) Itunes will say it has detected your phone is in restore mode and must be restored so do it

5.) restore backup and all apps after restore

6.) download latest JB and install

7.) profit
This sounds like a good way, but I'm skeptical of your process between steps 6 and 7. You don't mention any procedure to restore your tweaks and jailbroken apps and all their settings. Unless a iTunes backup stores all that information?

Otherwise, somewhere in here you are going to lose all your tweaks, apps and settings and between steps 6 and 7 you'll be spending a lot of time reinstalling all of that. Or am I wrong?
 

darricksailo

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This sounds like a good way, but I'm skeptical of your process between steps 6 and 7. You don't mention any procedure to restore your tweaks and jailbroken apps and all their settings. Unless a iTunes backup stores all that information?

Otherwise, somewhere in here you are going to lose all your tweaks, apps and settings and between steps 6 and 7 you'll be spending a lot of time reinstalling all of that. Or am I wrong?
An iTunes backup will restore your tweak settings and your AppStore apps (if they're synced on your iTunes library)

Tweaks will need to be installed manually but you don't have to set it up again if you restored from backup
 

eyoungren

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An iTunes backup will restore your tweak settings and your AppStore apps (if they're synced on your iTunes library)

Tweaks will need to be installed manually but you don't have to set it up again if you restored from backup
Ahhh…ok. So, it stores the tweak/JB app data/preferences, just not the tweaks/JB apps themselves.Got it. Thanks!

Still a major PITA to restore your tweaks and JB apps (unless you have a jailbreak tweak backup app) though. I've got well over 40 or 50 and there's no way short of PKGBackup I'd remember them all. And that doesn't include any dependencies!
 

hafr

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You cannot install any OTA or any itunes ios updates on a JB iphone.
Your only option is to restore and then JB and load your stuff up again.
You're mistaken, or I misinterpret what you mean. I had no problems updating my jailbroken iPhone 5 from 7.0.4 to 7.0.6 via iTunes, although I had to re-jailbreak the phone afterwards.
 

darricksailo

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Ahhh…ok. So, it stores the tweak/JB app data/preferences, just not the tweaks/JB apps themselves.Got it. Thanks!

Still a major PITA to restore your tweaks and JB apps (unless you have a jailbreak tweak backup app) though. I've got well over 40 or 50 and there's no way short of PKGBackup I'd remember them all. And that doesn't include any dependencies!
Wouldn't it help if you just wrote down on a piece of paper the tweaks you have installed? Independencies will be installed with the main tweak(s) as needed

I start fresh every time and installing the tweaks is actually the easy part. Setting up the preferences/settings for everything is the harder part for me
 

rick snagwell

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Wouldn't it help if you just wrote down on a piece of paper the tweaks you have installed? Independencies will be installed with the main tweak(s) as needed

I start fresh every time and installing the tweaks is actually the easy part. Setting up the preferences/settings for everything is the harder part for me
exactly, i just did this, this morning. updated to 7.0.6 with fresh everything, sine its going to be awhile before we can jb again.
 

Applejuiced

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At the iPhone hacks section.
You're mistaken, or I misinterpret what you mean. I had no problems updating my jailbroken iPhone 5 from 7.0.4 to 7.0.6 via iTunes, although I had to re-jailbreak the phone afterwards.
You can with iTunes but you have to hit restore, not update.
If you click update on a jb iPhone with iTunes it will just error out and you will have to do a restore after that anyway.
 

Chazz08

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I am on 7.1 Beta, and I want to go back to 7.0.6 because of ISX 7, and I don't know if it will be updated to work with the beta, but it can't restore from the backup because it's a newer version! Is there anyway to trick it into thinking it's not newer like we have with the jailbreak? Like I've changed the stuff through iFile so it's not like a beta and it reads 7.0.4. iTunes also tells me I need to update because there is a newer version. Do you think the backup will still work?
 
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thadoggfather

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Actually, it did. I just hadn't made it back to report that it had. All is well and my backup from 7.1b3 worked on my restored 7.0.6. Heck yes!
Interesting, was the 7.1 beta spoofed to 7.0.4?

I wonder if that would be why..

My apologies. I still wouldn't do it or recommend. Then again I always re-JB and restore as new, I'd rather not any surprises come up after the signing window is slammed shut.
 

Chazz08

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Interesting, was the 7.1 beta spoofed to 7.0.4?

I wonder if that would be why..

My apologies. I still wouldn't do it or recommend. Then again I always re-JB and restore as new, I'd rather not any surprises come up after the signing window is slammed shut.
Yeah, it was spoofed to 7.0.4. I guess it worked because the build number and everything had to be changed for the betas to work. Pretty dern cool!
 

hafr

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You can with iTunes but you have to hit restore, not update.
If you click update on a jb iPhone with iTunes it will just error out and you will have to do a restore after that anyway.
Maybe you have experienced that, I didn't. I hit "update", not "restore", and it updated without any hiccups.

I don't want to tell you you're wrong because it sounds so harsh, but you're mistaken if you think it's impossible to update iOS on a jailbroken iPhone without using the restore option.
 

dcharleyultra

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Maybe you have experienced that, I didn't. I hit "update", not "restore", and it updated without any hiccups.



I don't want to tell you you're wrong because it sounds so harsh, but you're mistaken if you think it's impossible to update iOS on a jailbroken iPhone without using the restore option.

Have you tried to re-jailbreak? Any issues?

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Wouldn't it help if you just wrote down on a piece of paper the tweaks you have installed? Independencies will be installed with the main tweak(s) as needed



I start fresh every time and installing the tweaks is actually the easy part. Setting up the preferences/settings for everything is the harder part for me

The Cydia tweak AppInfo can give you a list.
 

hafr

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Have you tried to re-jailbreak? Any issues?
Yes and yes :) The jailbreak tool said that the phone was already jailbroken and that re-jailbreaking it wasn't recommended. I did it anyway, and while all tweaks seemed to work - only about half of the icons showed up (although all of them showed up in Settings). I was a bit pressed for time, so I simply restored it to a backup and re-jailbroke it. I suspect that it could have been fixed by reboots, reinstalling icon packs or what not though...
 

dcharleyultra

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Yes and yes :) The jailbreak tool said that the phone was already jailbroken and that re-jailbreaking it wasn't recommended. I did it anyway, and while all tweaks seemed to work - only about half of the icons showed up (although all of them showed up in Settings). I was a bit pressed for time, so I simply restored it to a backup and re-jailbroke it. I suspect that it could have been fixed by reboots, reinstalling icon packs or what not though...

You should have done a Restore instead, when you did the Update as you stated. That's why you ran into those issues.
 

hafr

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You should have done a Restore instead, when you did the Update as you stated. That's why you ran into those issues.
Yes, I realise the reason I experienced issues was because I updated instead of restoring, but that's not the point. The point is that what Applejuiced said is incorrect.