iPhone X I'm not getting a new iPhone until the notch is gone.

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by booksbooks, Apr 20, 2019.

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Will you buy an iPhone with a notch, or wait until a model arrives with no notch?

  1. Not buying an iPhone until the notch is completely gone.

    79 vote(s)
    26.6%
  2. I'll buy an iPhone with a notch.

    218 vote(s)
    73.4%
  1. booksbooks macrumors 6502a

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    I have an iPhone X. Had it on launch. I look at all of the evolution happening on the Android side and can see where this is headed: the era of the notch will die. Maybe in a year, maybe two, not sure. But we're close.

    The notch is terrible for a number of reasons and needs to die quickly.

    What about you: take the poll and vote.
     
  2. Relentless Power, Apr 20, 2019
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    Is there any indication or source that ‘we’re close to deleting the notch? From what I can tell, I don’t necessarily believe that quite yet. Personally, I have had zero issues with the notch inception from the beginning and it’s never bothered me personally, I gather it’s a non-issue likely for the majority outside a tech forum that never really take notice to the notch, or in the least, I’ve never heard of anyone upset with the notch design outside Macrumors.
     
  3. Act3 macrumors 68000

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    I have had an Xr since the launch, great phone but I still hate the notch. Can't wait til it is gone, rather have a design more like the latest iPad pros. No notch. Other than a smartphone, name another media device with a designed notch.

    Movie screens, tv screens, computer monitors, laptops, tablets, even books/magazines for that matter, no notch.
     
  4. nouveau_redneck macrumors 6502

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    I'm holding onto my 8+ until its gone. The notch was the biggest esthetic design failure in Apples history.
     
  5. Act3, Apr 20, 2019
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    I wouldn't call it a failure, they are still selling a ton of devices with a notch. However , the same ton of devices probably would have been sold if they stuck with touch ID. Is there any evidence that the notch/face ID helped sales? btw, I hate the notch.
     
  6. nouveau_redneck macrumors 6502

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    I doubt you or I, or anyone really, will ever know how it affected sales as there is no way to see a valid comparison. But I am of the opinion that Apple would have sold more units had the notch not been present. I know more people that "don't hate" the notch, rather than actually like it. Me, I hate it.
     
  7. The Game 161 macrumors P6

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    Honestly don’t think the average user cares about the notch
     
  8. Oridus macrumors 6502a

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    I have not noticed my notch since the second day I had the original X. I don't mind it, if it goes away, cool. If not, cool.
     
  9. pika2000 macrumors 601

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    Would I prefer a notch-less full screen? Yes.
    Would a notch prevent me from buying an iPhone? No.
    At least the notch on iPhones have a purpose, for the FaceID tech. Compare that to Android phones who put notches just for the looks (while having a chin underneath, which is even dumber).
     
  10. Ralfi macrumors 68030

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    I find it’s worth it for Face ID & my predominantly Portrait use of the X. I don’t watch movies, nor am a big time gamer on my smartphone.

    I’d love for the notch to shrink when the time comes for me to upgrade (2020), but I’m not comparing that aspect of the iPhone to the competition for it to be a deal breaker.

    There are more important factors for me: for eg. Fully optimised 3D/Haptic Touch, USB-C, more RAM (to end App refreshes).
     
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    I am rather notchalant about the issue of the notch on the phone.
     
  13. I7guy macrumors P6

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    We have the Xr and Max. The debate about the notch rages on, however, to us the notch is a non-issue in terms of daily use and wouldn't stop me from getting a future model with the notch.
     
  14. AustinIllini macrumors demi-goddess

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  15. Azathoth123 macrumors 6502

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    It’s not a notch, they’re ‘horns’, lol. The old half empty half full argument, so problem solved, go get your new iPhone!

    Seriously, the negative space that houses the cameras, earpiece, etc has always been there, they just let the display use the area beyond the camera/earpiece array. I kind of like a phone with horns... :D

    I don’t find that the horns are any more offensive than a broad dead space across the entire phone, though others very obviously would like more dead space. Maybe a symmetry thing?

    Anyone notice the new, almost $2,000 Samsung foldable? No one’s said much about that giant assymmetrical (sic) pirate eye patch. Har matey!
     
  16. Zaft macrumors 68040

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    What evolution on the android side? 90% are copying the notch.
     
  17. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    I don't give a damn about the notch.

    However, your hatred for the notch is the exact same hatred I have for the fugly ass camera boil that has been a pox on the back of the iPhone since the iPhone 6. This is the single biggest reason I have never upgraded from the 6s to anything new.

    So I've been living your decision since the 6s - just over the camera bump, not the notch.

    Unfortunately, it seems Apple has no intent to abandon the bump so my next phone will be Android.
    --- Post Merged, Apr 20, 2019 ---
    What I never get about this is that people either love it or hate it but are indifferent to the fugly boil that houses the camera on the back of the phone.

    The notch is not intrusive and not really noticeable, but this they hate. The camera boil is totally noticeable and ruins the look of the phone but THAT they don't care about!

    Sheesh!!!
     
  18. booksbooks thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    From my post it should be clear. But I'll make it clearer.
    • What I mean by "being there" is that notchless smartphones become ubiquitous. One example of a notchless phone here (Xiaomi MI Mix 3): https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/25/xiaomi-mi-mix-3/
    • One source in terms of it being an issue for people: "However, our poll shows most users are against this design trend, which kills the symmetry of a smartphone and gives it a weird look." https://www.androidauthority.com/best-phones-without-notch-875665/
    • When it comes to the world of Apple, while you may have your own opinion, that doesn't necessarily imply a majority opinion. Interestingly, Apple is being sued over the notch: "Apple sued for lying about iPhone X notch in ads... It claims Apple's latest iPhones don't have the number of screen pixels advertised, nor is the screen size calculated accurately."
    • John Gruber, ""It offends me. It's ungainly and unnatural."
    • The industry copied it, but has quickly pivoted (e.g., Galaxy X10, Xiaomi, others). Huawei has an all screen patent where a completely bezeless and notchless phone may launch in a year.
     
  19. Azathoth123 macrumors 6502

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    Well, I suppose Apple had to make a decision, a camera bump or a camera that can’t compete that sits flush. It’s physics/optics that dictates camera dimensions, not managers or design geeks.

    However, I propose a solution ! How about making the battery thicker (larger, more capacity) so that the camera becomes flush with the case ! I’d buy that.
     
  20. booksbooks thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    See my above post.
     
  21. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    I would too.
     
  22. booksbooks thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    BTW, we're seeing the same kind of design evolution hit laptops but they can get away with a tad larger bezels. Huawei Matebook X Pro where they put the camera on the keyboard, and made really skinny bezels. Regardless of how someone implements something, this latter is in its own way innovative and while the camera angle isn't ideal, it still works and the big benefit there is that you get a huge screen to body ratio.

    So the point is that there are others innovating this, and actually in a way that executes fairly well, where Apple is in some ways behind. The Huawei Matebook X Pro, for instance, gets a lot of chatter in the Apple world and the MacBook Pro section of this forum. Right now it's looking like a bit of a catalyst for people to switch from Mac to Windows who are sick of the TouchBar, butterfly keyboard, expense, large bezels, etc. of the current MacBook Pro line.
     
  23. Ralfi macrumors 68030

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    Oh oh.

    /exits
     
  24. booksbooks thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Top 6 notchless and bezeless smartphone video. Some have achieved a whopping 95% screen-to-body ratio.



    The Xiaomi bezeless phone is 8.4 mm thick (iPhone X line is 7.7 mm). Not bad considering the slide mechanism. Surprised to see Lenovo in the top 6.
     
  25. LizKat macrumors 601

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    That sounds good. Meantime I don't really notice the notch on the XR, and I don't notice the camera bump either as long as I have the XR in the clear Apple case. I do like using the device without that case and sometimes read ebooks on it for a couple hours at a time, when I'm safely parked on a couch with a view of carpeting... but I don't trust myself not to drop the thing in other venues.

    So I've only had chance to notice the camera's protrusion in a situation where I don't look at or care about the bump anyway. I really only noticed it when it "vanished" -- i.e. I was putting the case on for the first time and realized that the case suddenly created a flush surface on the back of the device.
     

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