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I'm waiting for a 17-inch MBP... am I dumb?

Not judging people's wants, but why do people say they want a 17"? Like others have suggested, the 17's out there aren't really portable and the resolution difference is almost nil. If you want a bigger screen, why not get an external monitor when deskbound and just "suffer" with a 15" when you are mobile. Is it that you also expect spec bumps to accompany the larger size screen? Or just to have 17" of screen while mobile? The more I type, the more I realize it probably is a smaller niche than I thought who have those requirements. Not hating. I would like to see a 17" to stop some of the bitching if for nothing else. Just when I think of practical applications, how many need that much screen on the go? I use a 13" MBP with a 34" monitor. I don't really miss the real estate when I'm mobile, I'm more glad to have my files and settings with me at all times. Longterm, I like having a bigger screen obviously, but a cheap external monitor can solve that. To answer, it would not be a wise business decision as Apple already found out in 2011. But they probably did get some halo marketing benefit for offering such a cool device.
 
You aren't dumb but you'll be waiting forever. Dell, Asus and MS have all moved on from 17inch+ laptops for different reasons BUT there are still some exceptions if you have a lot!!! of money to spend Acer just unleashed and absolute monsterlaptop equipped with 2 GTX 1080s 32 Gig of RAM and a full mechanical keyboard but this thing weights 8 pounds and features a 24 inch screen it's insane and a monster.

If you want the most screen estate I would recommend the XPS 15, waiting for the Surfacebook 2 or the above option but like I said it's by far the most expensive laptop outthere.
 
thesaint024 said:
Not judging people's wants, but why do people say they want a 17"? Like others have suggested, the 17's out there aren't really portable and the resolution difference is almost nil. If you want a bigger screen, why not get an external monitor when deskbound and just "suffer" with a 15" when you are mobile. Is it that you also expect spec bumps to accompany the larger size screen? Or just to have 17" of screen while mobile? The more I type, the more I realize it probably is a smaller niche than I thought who have those requirements. Not hating. I would like to see a 17" to stop some of the bitching if for nothing else. Just when I think of practical applications, how many need that much screen on the go? I use a 13" MBP with a 34" monitor. I don't really miss the real estate when I'm mobile, I'm more glad to have my files and settings with me at all times. Longterm, I like having a bigger screen obviously, but a cheap external monitor can solve that. To answer, it would not be a wise business decision as Apple already found out in 2011. But they probably did get some halo marketing benefit for offering such a cool device.
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Mine's portable. I've taken and used it all over. It's not as nice to carry as my 15", naturally, but neither is that 15" as portable the 13".

The resolution is less an issue for working than the screen space, unless you're a close looker. I always have every inch of my screen covered with overlapping stuff, and could always use more space.

frankgrimes said:
If you want the most screen estate I would recommend the XPS 15
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Why the XPS 15 instead of any other 15"?
 
Sanpete said:
Mine's portable. I've taken and used it all over. It's not as nice to carry as my 15", naturally, but neither is that 15" as portable the 13".

The resolution is less an issue for working than the screen space, unless you're a close looker. I always have every inch of my screen covered with overlapping stuff, and could always use more space.


Why the XPS 15 instead of any other 15"?
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Because it's the only one with an "infinity" display and if you buy the QHD version it provides the most. Another option would be a Razer one with 4k display
 
It's probably a better chance of Apple bringing back user serviceable laptops
 
I have a 2011 17" that's practically unused, it was never a hit for Apple and a size that a lot of people liked the idea of, more than they actually liked it in practice. I don't think we will ever see it's return to the MBP lineup.
 
frankgrimes said:
You aren't dumb but you'll be waiting forever. Dell, Asus and MS have all moved on from 17inch+ laptops for different reasons BUT there are still some exceptions if you have a lot!!! of money to spend Acer just unleashed and absolute monsterlaptop equipped with 2 GTX 1080s 32 Gig of RAM and a full mechanical keyboard but this thing weights 8 pounds and features a 24 inch screen it's insane and a monster.

If you want the most screen estate I would recommend the XPS 15, waiting for the Surfacebook 2 or the above option but like I said it's by far the most expensive laptop outthere.
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Dell, Asus, Lenovo and HP all make 17" laptops, as does Clevo and other OEM's

Daughters boyfriend just got an ASUS ROG, unit. and I myself have 17" Dell, Hp and Lenovo portable workstations. there are a number of 17" business models as well ranging from sub $1000 to $2500.

they are out there and all over the spec and feature map, its Just that Apple no longer makes one and I can not see them doing another as well.
 
Is there are a reason they couldn't make 17 inch within the envelope of a 2015 15 inch chassis? You gotta admit, the retina display on the 2012 to 2015 retina is a whole lotta bezel. They could easily squeeze four more inches in.
 
Mr. Dee said:
Is there are a reason they couldn't make 17 inch within the envelope of a 2015 15 inch chassis? You gotta admit, the retina display on the 2012 to 2015 retina is a whole lotta bezel. They could easily squeeze four more inches in.
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Cool, a 19" screen!
 
Kcetech1 said:
Dell, Asus, Lenovo and HP all make 17" laptops, as does Clevo and other OEM's
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Dell has what, 2 or three 17" models in their portfolio? One of which is a super-budget laptop (because its cheaper to put it into an oversized enclosure with obsolete display panel) and the others are desktop-replacement class with high-end GPUs (gaming or workstation). Same for Clevo — gaming laptop! Those devices are not really made to be portable and fill a very different niche. The point is that the 17" has all but disappeared from the general-purpose and/or business market.
 
leman said:
Dell has what, 2 or three 17" models in their portfolio? One of which is a super-budget laptop (because its cheaper to put it into an oversized enclosure with obsolete display panel) and the others are desktop-replacement class with high-end GPUs (gaming or workstation). Same for Clevo — gaming laptop! Those devices are not really made to be portable and fill a very different niche. The point is that the 17" has all but disappeared from the general-purpose and/or business market.
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Not many for certain, I know the inspiron 17 - 7000 2 in 1 is popular in the medical fields and I have seen a number of them on campus where I am doing some tutoring and animation classes, It might be their only general purpose 17 as I would call it. Now little brother the 17-5000 I really havnt seen many of and seem to be more a basic consumer kind of thing. Yes the rest are insane workstations like my Precision 7720, which to be fully honest is more of a Mac Pro replacement for me.
 
Kcetech1 said:
Not many for certain, I know the inspiron 17 - 7000 2 in 1 is popular in the medical fields and I have seen a number of them on campus where I am doing some tutoring and animation classes, It might be their only general purpose 17 as I would call it.
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Yep, the Inspiron 7000 is a weird computer to say the least. Performance wise, its under the 13" MBP while having worse battery life and weighting twice as much o_O This thing is clearly a budget computer but its priced right out of the budget range.
 
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I wish. I had a 17" that I sold to get a rMBP, I very much wish they would come back with the 17". Maybe they could even find room for ports and a decent battery with that big a footprint ;)
 
thesaint024 said:
Sorry, I'm not up to speed on my emoji. What the ... does this mean?
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Sorry, I am a little childish today. :/

:)= MagSafe
:)= Ethernet
:)= Firewire 800
:)= Thunderbolt 1
:):):)= 3 x USB 2.0
:)= Audio in
:)= Audio out
:):)= forgot to delete
:p:p= ExpressCard 34 with 2 x USB 3.0


:(= USB-C 3.1 Gen. 1
:oops:= Audio in/out (other side)



thesaint024 said:
I only see that bend by the ethernet port and it's making me sad.
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Me too. :( And I was wondering if anyone might recognize it.

I bought it used on eBay and got it cheaper because of that. But there is no problem with the port, it's just the alumin(i)um (Until I just saw the red underlining, I never noticed it is written different in English. :oops:) around it and everything else is nearly in flawless condition. :)

While taking the picture I thought about trying to bend it back with pliers shortly.


I purchased it two years ago and the price here on eBay is still about the same or even more. But selling it would break my heart, despite not really using it much anymore.


It's the last and best specked version that has ever been available (with the anti-glare display in addition):

http://www.everymac.com/systems/app....5-17-late-2011-unibody-thunderbolt-specs.htm

Of course now it has SSDs (soon two identical in RAID-1 for more speed) and it is even running with 16 GB of 2133 MHz DDR3-RAM (originally purchased for my Late 2015 iMac).

I don't know how this is possible, but the frequency is displayed in "About This Mac" and Geekbench proved a massive memory speed increase in comparison to the 1333 MHz RAM it had before.

I tried the 1866 MHz RAM what came with the latest 5K iMac in it too and it was also slower than the new RAM.

This is really very strange because the chipset (or CPU) only supports up to 1600 MHz I think and I only ran Geekbench because I noticed a speed increase after replacing the old 16 GB with the new ones. The results are posted somewhere here.
Maybe those memory modules do some kind of "upscaling"?

I even thought about trying 2 x 16 GB, but those SO-DIMMs are slower (1600 MHz max.), very expensive, I don't really need more RAM in it and can't believe it would work.
When there ever will be any with also 2.133 MHz, I'll try it anyway... ;)

I better stop writing now and would be surprised if anyone has completely read my boring rave/swank about wanting to own the best MacBook ever... :D


Edit: I also had a Blu-ray Disc burner in it for a while, what I removed from an LG iMac-like All-in-One PC.

Great Computer by the way. It was better than the iMacs in that time (USB 3 instead of 2, BD instead of DVD, E-SATA, Touchscreen, TV-Receiver...), but discontinued very soon.

https://www.lg.com/de/products/documents/V300-D.AE21G.PDF

There seems to be just a German version of the data sheet.
 
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