My 2018 15” is flawless. You’re spending too much time on the forums. Just buy it.
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I’m worried to buy a MBP 2018
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I picked my MacBook Pro 2018 13" up on July 25, so almost a month now of daily use. No crackles, not a single kernel panic, no thermal issues. I'm happy with my purchase.
If you used these forums to guide your purchase on anything, you basically would never buy.
I’m going to pull the trigger this week for a MBP 15” 2.2/560x/16GB/1TB
I will use it mostly for Lightroom and editing raw pictures.
I will have it for 3200€ with student discount and a Beats Solo.
Any last recommandation is appreciated
I will use it mostly for Lightroom and editing raw pictures.
I will have it for 3200€ with student discount and a Beats Solo.
Any last recommandation is appreciated
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Good luck,
My only question (or recommendation) is instead of paying the high price for the 1TB drive, why not get a smaller drive and then use a Samsung T5 drive. I understand it adds a bit of complexity and size when needing keep it attached. I'm using that setup for my Lightroom catalog and pictures. My needs are not the same as yours and I can understand why people need the 1TB drive. I only offer an alternative option that may work for you
From the sounds of it, that will suit you perfectly well, and will last you a good long while.
Keep in mind, that when browsing these forums, many of the threads on here are reporting issues, but that doesn't mean the majority of users are having issues. In fact, often it can be quite the contrary, as forums are a place (supposed to be at least) where people can reach out and get advice on issues they are experiencing. It may make it feel like a disproportionate number of reported issues, but that isn't always indicative of a wide-spread issue.
I would buy it, and see if it fits your needs are! I think you'll be pleasantly surprised, and if for any reason it has an issue you have a 14 day return period as well as the 1 year warranty (3 years if you get AppleCare, which I would do IMO). Most of the concerns you have listed in your thread are items that will be fixed via future software updates.
I second this on the Samsung T5. Save yourself the upgrade cost and go with a 256 or 512 GB SSD. A 1 TB Samsung T5 only costs $280 (from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-T5-P...pID=315RcSDvw2L&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch), whereas the upgrade from 256GB to 1TB on the MacBook Pro costs $600.
That means you are paying $0.28 per GB for the Samsung T5 versus versus $0.80 GB on the Apple upgrade (which is adding 744 GB to the stock 256 GB). That's a 287% premium per GB getting the Apple upgrade, just saying.
The choice is yours, but I am not willing to pay that much for extra for storage on my machine. And besides, the Samsung T5 is lightning fast and very small and portable.
EDIT: I should note before I get questions on my math. I am only calculated the cost per GB on Apple upgrade based on the additional storage you are paying for, not including what the computer already comes with, so $600/744GB = $0.80 per GB, versus the $284/1,000GB = $0.28 for the Samsung T5).
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I think the external Samsung T5 is good advice, I have done similar in the past. Just beware though, that the delta in speed between an external SSD and the internal one has grown considerably. The T5 will be about 5-times slower than the internal (~500 MBs vs ~2500 MBs). If you're just storing videos or photos for occasional access, that is probably a minor issue. But if you want to use it as primary storage... if it takes 30 minutes to write an x-gigabyte file to the T5, is will take only ~6 minutes with the internal SSD.
I only bring it up because the gap used to be much smaller, and it is a new wrinkle in the decision -- one that I overlooked when I bought my 2016 MBP.
I only bring it up because the gap used to be much smaller, and it is a new wrinkle in the decision -- one that I overlooked when I bought my 2016 MBP.
I do agree that this is a good point, and the numbers are pretty spot on with what I get on my T5 (480mb/s read, 505mb/s write), but unless the OP plans on running programs directly off the drive, it wouldn't be that noticeable of a difference in performance.
I can transfer over 145GB of RAW photos from my 2017 13" MBP to my Samsung T5 in just under 6 minutes, no exaggeration. That's almost faster than it takes to make a cup of coffee or take a restroom break.
If you need faster speeds than that you likely have special computing requirements but most users don't fall in that category. Honestly I think the difference in transfer speeds is less important today than it used to be, given just how fast of read/write speeds we are talking about.
I don't know what the return policy is where you're from, but where I live you have 14 days to return it. Often it takes more than 14 days for an issue to surface.
I'd wait at least 6 months on this laptop to see how it goes. Otherwise, if you decide to buy, Apple care is a necessity. Plus, plan on potentially replacing the laptop after the Apple care expires in case it suffers from regular problems.
I'd wait at least 6 months on this laptop to see how it goes. Otherwise, if you decide to buy, Apple care is a necessity. Plus, plan on potentially replacing the laptop after the Apple care expires in case it suffers from regular problems.
[doublepost=1534996111][/doublepost]Don't forget the big one - the keyboard. It hasn't been out long enough to evaluate it fairly.
Hi everyone,
I need to buy a new MBP and I was looking for the 2018 models but I’m really worried about these 3 issues :
-Kernel Panic
-Audio crackle
-Thermal issues (some users are reporting very high temps)
So I don’t really know if it’s safe to buy a MBP now. Do you think Apple is going to fix these issues soon ?
I can wait 1 month maximum... But I’m really concerned about all of this.
I finally ordered today. Had a hard time to decide.
But my shop of choice has 10% off today (MacBooks included) and I got a 500$ (acutally Swiss Francs) discount from that store (given me by my company)...so this means 820 dollars less than the regular price here in Switzerland.
Good enough for me. Will get it tomorrow (MBP 15.4 SG/2.6GHZ/16GB/RP560X/512GB)
But my shop of choice has 10% off today (MacBooks included) and I got a 500$ (acutally Swiss Francs) discount from that store (given me by my company)...so this means 820 dollars less than the regular price here in Switzerland.
Good enough for me. Will get it tomorrow (MBP 15.4 SG/2.6GHZ/16GB/RP560X/512GB)
I ordered a MBP 15” 2.2/16GB/560x/1TB
I prefer to have directly 1TB SSD
Wish me good luck
I prefer to have directly 1TB SSD
Wish me good luck
While certainly a good illustration of the speed differences, there's the detail of just exactly where you're getting the data file from so quickly that even the T5 is the bottleneck let alone the internal SSD.
I suspect in general day to day usage for *most* folks it simply wouldn't matter.
Congrats! I am pretty sure you won't be disappointed, enjoy your new MacBook Pro!!I ordered a MBP 15” 2.2/16GB/560x/1TB
I prefer to have directly 1TB SSD
Wish me good luck
It really depends on where you are and the fact that it is a custom build you are ordering. It could very well (if not most likely) get in earlier than that date, but for sure it shouldn't come any later than that date.
Um... the whole point is the MacBook Pro can read/write data at ~2500 MB/s (or more) from the internal SSD. That's where the data comes from. The T5 can do around ~500 MB/s. The T5 would be a real-world bottleneck as supplemental storage for the internal SSD. (The MBP can handle a Thunderbolt 3 external SSD that can read/write data at ~2800 MB/s or more.) That's as big a difference as the T5 is from a mechanical drive.While certainly a good illustration of the speed differences, there's the detail of just exactly where you're getting the data file from so quickly that even the T5 is the bottleneck let alone the internal SSD.
But, yes, for most people, it may just be diminishing returns. But if you're dealing with large 4K video editing, large databases, large ML data sets, VM images, etc.... you will notice it. Just something to consider when comparing upgrading the internal SSD to a using an external.
I wouldn’t worry too much on these issues, while there are a lot of reports, it appears that Apple is already working on the software fixes for the speakers, and not all users are experiencing the issue. Also the keyboard issue is not on a scale comparable with the 2016/17 models, at least not at this point yet.
Besides the speaker issues and the one issue some people are having with “Bridge OS”, the overwhelming number of people I am seeing are posting that they are relatively happy with their 2018 MBPs
Umm... my point, again, is that data rate for the vast majority of real world usage isn’t going to make a substantial difference. Unless the person is silly enough to keep their active work files externally and they’re doing 4K or other multi-gig data file editing.
Really IMHO for most folks it’s much more about the convenience of internal vs carrying an external. Buy what size you truly need for daily work on your internal and use the external for 2nd tier storage.
I would add one additiona note for why I like using more external storage options than internal, and that is with an external SSD or even HDD, for as long as it continues working, they can be used from device to device. I might spend $600 on a internal SSD upgrade on a MacBook Pro, but that money is only well spent as long as I own/use it. As soon as it is sold or fails, that’s $600 I don’t have anything to show for. An external SSD in theory can easily outlive what ever machine I first bought it for, and by this philosophy will pay for itself many times over.
Having said that, convenience and to a lesser extent, speed both play a factor and for some that means purchasing the 1TB upgrade. If budgets weren’t an issue for me, I’d surely upgrade to the 1TB myself. For now I’ll stick with my 256GB and my Samsung T5, and the other three older SSDs I’ve salvaged from other computers and put into external enclosures
No issues listed above. But my s key started to randomly repeat (register twice). Rarely, but when you type really fast and without looking at the keyboard (or, in my case, without looking at the screen either), those typos can become annoying very quickly.