iMac 2012 display

[Reaktor5]

http://leapmotion.com/ this is being released later this year. Preorders are being taken now. $69.99

I saw that on the Verge, the only thing that worries me is that it seems like a cool demo. That's it. In order for something like that to be successful developers need to implement it. Having it built into the iMac would allow Apple to control it at the system level. I would love to see an Apple TV controlled by swiping and hand gestures, this is much more intuitive to me than talking to Siri.

 

[Flood123]

I saw that on the Verge, the only thing that worries me is that it seems like a cool demo. That's it. In order for something like that to be successful developers need to implement it. Having it built into the iMac would allow Apple to control it at the system level. I would love to see an Apple TV controlled by swiping and hand gestures, this is much more intuitive to me than talking to Siri.

I think a little siri and this together wold be amazing is awesome. Since one of the head dudes from that company is an old apple dude, maybe Apple will just buy them and implement. A TV with this feature would be pretty wicked. I saw an engaget review with one of the developers and the product looks pretty solid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iERrs-Lf3CQ
I can't wait to see where this technology goes.

 

[MacGizmo]

Touch screen desktops are so stupid. Probably one of the dumbest "inventions" of all-time. They serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever.

There is no earthly need to touch your desktop monitor. Ever. It's just stupid.

Kiosks at malls, airline counters, car rental places, inventory control systems... I can think of a ton of reasons to have a touch screen desktop. That being said, the average consumer doesn't need to touch the screen - that would be a painful experience over time.

 

[Reaktor5]

I think a little siri and this together wold be amazing is awesome. Since one of the head dudes from that company is an old apple dude, maybe Apple will just buy them and implement. A TV with this feature would be pretty wicked. I saw an engaget review with one of the developers and the product looks pretty solid.I can't wait to see where this technology goes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iERrs-Lf3CQ

Definitely seems like a startup Apple would acquire.

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Kiosks at malls, airline counters, car rental places, inventory control systems... I can think of a ton of reasons to have a touch screen desktop. That being said, the average consumer doesn't need to touch the screen - that would be a painful experience over time.

I just recently saw a touchscreen Coke machine and thought it was the coolest thing ever.

 

[mrkjsn]

I just recently saw a touchscreen Coke machine and thought it was the coolest thing ever.

That coke machine you speak of was designed by famous Ferrari designer Sergio Pininfarina who sadly, very recently, passed away.

 

[Reaktor5]

That coke machine you speak of was designed by famous Ferrari designer Sergio Pininfarina who sadly, very recently, passed away.

Wow, very cool.

Shame he passed away. As with Steve, I hate to see people go that have so much more to offer that better the world.

 

[mrkjsn]

Wow, very cool.

Shame he passed away. As with Steve, I hate to see people go that have so much more to offer that better the world.

Agreed. As a big car guy, Sergio's passing is a big loss. He was responsible for creating one of my favorite Ferrari's ever, the F40. But, he lived a full life, passing at the age of 85. Steve on the other hand, I feel like went far too early. While some of his ideas are still materializing in Apple as we speak, I feel like losing Steve put a dent in the future of technological advancement. While we may continue to progress forward, there will be gaps in creativity that Steve's vision alone would have been able to fill.

 

[Bargle]

Kiosks at malls, airline counters, car rental places, inventory control systems... I can think of a ton of reasons to have a touch screen desktop. That being said, the average consumer doesn't need to touch the screen - that would be a painful experience over time.

Those are all examples of touchscreen devices that are not desktops...

No one argues against touch screen. They argue against vertically placed touch screens on desks.

 

[artbyjames.com]

They argue against vertically placed touch screens on desks.

Which is irrelevant because they wouldn't be oriented vertically. That would be a terrible design.

 

[JayJayAbels]

Design, simplicity and function.

#1. Design - I think this is a no brainer. It would look cool. It would seem futuristic. Interacting directly with the screen WOULD be it's selling point.

#2. Simplicity - Split decision here. Yes if it collapsed into some sort of a tablet form that was portable... there's a case to be made for it here.
But if the process of collapsing the screen or if the act of touching a vertical screen is even the slightest bit cumbersome... it would absolutely affect #3.

#3. Function - I just don't see it being very functional. Like others have stated in earlier comments... possibly in some situations it would be useful... but you're DEFINITELY not going to want to be touching a 27" screen all day long. You'll go blind. lol

For any of this to work effectively I can't see it being practical with a screen larger than 21 inches.

Maybe touchscreen 17" and 21" collapsing iMacs... with the 27" being the standard desktop model?

I mean it all sounds cool on paper but a lot of RnD would have to go into the Ergonomics of a product like this.

That all said... if anyone can pull it off... it's Apple. I just simply don't think we're "there" yet. Even with a "redesign".

 

[Bargle]

Which is irrelevant because they wouldn't be oriented vertically. That would be a terrible design.

Then the question is, "Who's willing to buy an ipad that weighs 30 pounds?

 

[Ddyracer]

I saw that on the Verge, the only thing that worries me is that it seems like a cool demo. That's it. In order for something like that to be successful developers need to implement it. Having it built into the iMac would allow Apple to control it at the system level. I would love to see an Apple TV controlled by swiping and hand gestures, this is much more intuitive to me than talking to Siri.

Th only thing that worries me is it's not so ergonomical. Your limbs will start aching before half an hour of use. Waving your hand in the air? Crazy!

Still want to try it though.

 

[iSayuSay]

Kiosks at malls, airline counters, car rental places, inventory control systems... I can think of a ton of reasons to have a touch screen desktop. That being said, the average consumer doesn't need to touch the screen - that would be a painful experience over time.

Yeah, except those places and businesses do not need pretty computers with ease of use, best user experience, tight sexy enclosures and and all that for crazy extra dollars. They need working computers that is cheap, economical, just works, easy to maintain and give the best investment returns.

 

[artbyjames.com]

Then the question is, "Who's willing to buy an ipad that weighs 30 pounds?

Eh, that's kinda the question, but it's not a mobile device so weight doesn't matter. And it won't be limited by weakass arm chips. The possibilities are far beyond an oversized tablet.

There are many uses where the iPad succeeds with touch, but fails with power and screen size. For many of these apps, touch has proven to be more natural. Desktop powered touch screens will explode in:

- digital painting, photo editing, and graphic design
- 3d modeling and digital sculpting
- music (full keyboards, turntables, etc.)
- video editing (iMovie already looks touch friendly)
- games
- exciting scientific stuff
...and of course...
- boring office stuff

I bet we'll all be surprised at how natural it is for general use, though. That's where the iPad succeeds, and it will scale just like it did from the phone to a tablet.

 

[Bargle]

I would need serious convincing to play skyrim with a touch screen. I'm not saying I couldn't be convinced, but I would need convincing...

 

[mrkjsn]

Wirelessly posted

Which is irrelevant because they wouldn't be oriented vertically. That would be a terrible design.

Then the question is, "Who's willing to buy an ipad that weighs 30 pounds?

When did people really care about the weight of a desktop. No one expects to carry this thing around.

 

[rotorblade69]

I think most here do not understand the market for the really big touch screens and their uses. An iMac in its current design with a 21-27" touch screen would not be for creative inputs and any touch use will not be for long periods.

Perceptive Pixel with Jeff and the Wacom Cintiq are for the People who do the kind of work day after day, basically their JOB. Microsoft buying up Hann his people and Pixel should be a big wake up call for Apple. The "Pro's" have a new toy, and Microsoft knows who butters its bread.
Apple may have the iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad, but once out of consumer iOS touch screen toys your into basic desktop GUI for everything else since the late 1980's for Macs.
The writing is on the wall and Gates and Balmer may have just made a good decision. Microsoft knows that the Professional software is not going to Mac, Solidworks naming one. But they are also not dumb enough and rest on the old desktop and give them the reason to switch over.
SO they have to make their OS Touch friendly and let the Software makers do what they want. 8 is the start and makes the writing of the code and the hardware implementation easier and quicker.

A 21-27" iMac in a new design that you can fold the display down flat or almost flat with the table and pulled forward to you like the Cintiq designs will be very nice. BUT then you have to have pen input capable or at least some optimization. Those that think you don't need pen inputs only need to look at the artwork iOS apps and the $30 pens that people buy and do very good work with them. Maybe a 20" iPad that someone can sit down with and hold like a handheld easel. Yes bigger and yes more expensive but doable. Apple just has to apply the tech to allow pen input only and let people rest their hands on the display and not affect the work area.


Large screens pen input capable displays, that can be moved up and down and all around like the Cintiq, are here to reign in the realm of Getting work done.

Its interesting if you read Toffler he says the Desktop is Dead. That day may have arrived, or at the very least the light from that day is getting brighter.

 

[bushman4]

sigh!, we had a few of this discussion We won't see an iMac with touch screen and I'm glad we won't. Or that is unless Apple want to ignore previous research and decisions that is. Steve Jobs said a few years ago, touch screen laptops don't work. And I completely agree with him, why would you want to sit and touch a vertical screen. iPads design works with this, but not a laptop. And, the iMac would be even worse. Only reason iMac would be touch is if they integrated wacom technology and ergonomy and made it into an artist plate. But that would be the need of a way too small segment for the iMac product. Only companies like Samsung is stupid enough to add touch into an AIO machine. Whenever would you want to use that ? I'm curious

If the screen lamination rumor is true, it's because Apple is implementing new monitors, not touch...that I can bet my money on.

Forget about the touch screen on an iMac, it wouldn't really serve and real function unless you use your Imac as a Kiosk. As for the retina display probably coming in 2013.

 

[notsosmartguy]

Hi guys, just thinking I actually will quite like to have the touch screen option. I mean, we can still use mouse and keyboard for some inputs... we don't need to use the touch screen all the time, no? I find it funny that some ppl find touch screen tiring, but welcome the leapmotion tech. Don't they both need to stick your arm out?
On top of that, after this long wait, if there is only just a minor update, I would rather have the touch screen to compensate for that. At least give us something different you know, to justify it... I personally see it is more useful than Siri. You think?

 

[Ry.]

Hi guys, just thinking I actually will quite like to have the touch screen option. I mean, we can still use mouse and keyboard for some inputs... we don't need to use the touch screen all the time, no? I find it funny that some ppl find touch screen tiring, but welcome the leapmotion tech. Don't they both need to stick your arm out?
On top of that, after this long wait, if there is only just a minor update, I would rather have the touch screen to compensate for that. At least give us something different you know, to justify it... I personally see it is more useful than Siri. You think?

A 27 inch touch screen would be expensive on top of the already pricey iMac, no?

 

[snow blind]

A 27 inch touch screen would be expensive on top of the already pricey iMac, no?

Dell's about to do it with the same LG screen as the iMac. http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/47193/dell-xps-one-27-hands-on

Now imagine this with Wacom tech! All in one 27" 2560x1440 with built in touch, pressure sensitive Wacom pen... I'd buy that in a heartbeat.

 

[iMcLovin]

Dell's about to do it with the same LG screen as the iMac. http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/47193/dell-xps-one-27-hands-onImage

Now imagine this with Wacom tech! All in one 27" 2560x1440 with built in touch, pressure sensitive Wacom pen... I'd buy that in a heartbeat.

with wacom tech that would be awesome - then my newly bought Cintiq tablet would be for nothing BUT, Just to flip metro style windows around on a screen and open email and brwser windows, that's rather pointless IMO. But the Dell concept looks a lot better than the samsung series though.

 

[notsosmartguy]

Not thinking about the price point at the moment. Hope it will be cheaper than the rmbp. But ppl still buying it anyway...
I think the Dell design is very enticing. It's great that other companies are trying to make things. That'll only push Apple to do more stuff and give their users more stuff I think. But still prefer the iMac look...
How about touch screen thunderbolt display too? It may sound silly, but just imagine lining up both screens, you can play piano, DJing, new forms of gaming like (multi)touch football, air hockey... I think it'll make the desktop more appealing to the mass because it's fun too. Work wise, reading big long documents is very convenient I think. Good for creating art work. Browsing internet too, just like using the tablet.

 

[xgman]

touchscreen = we're going to need a bigger cleaning rag

 

[Lynn Belvedere]

A 21-27" iMac in a new design that you can fold the display down flat or almost flat with the table and pulled forward to you like the Cintiq designs will be very nice. BUT then you have to have pen input capable or at least some optimization. Those that think you don't need pen inputs only need to look at the artwork iOS apps and the $30 pens that people buy and do very good work with them. Maybe a 20" iPad that someone can sit down with and hold like a handheld easel. Yes bigger and yes more expensive but doable. Apple just has to apply the tech to allow pen input only and let people rest their hands on the display and not affect the work.

No offense, but that sounds like one of the dumbest consumer products I have ever heard of. The iMac is a mass market product. There is simply no demand to warrant such ludicrous changes geared towards a tiny clique of artists.