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I am using iStatMenu 5 but i can't see ssd temp (just "-" in the menu). I thought it was broken the sensor but in windows i can see it no problem.

Do you guys can see it? Any other software to check ssd temp?

I need to know if It is just related to iStatMenu or if I unistalled some plugin (I installed DriveDx yesterday and then unistall some plugin in terminal)?
 
I am using iStatMenu 5 but i can't see ssd temp (just "-" in the menu). I thought it was broken the sensor but in windows i can see it no problem.

Do you guys can see it? Any other software to check ssd temp?

I need to know if It is just related to iStatMenu or if I unistalled some plugin (I installed DriveDx yesterday and then unistall some plugin in terminal)?
Same here
 
Give a try to 5.32 (23 August 2017):
  • Improved support for 2017 MacBook Pros.
  • Improved support for 2017 MacBooks.
  • Improved support for 2017 iMacs.
  • Improved per process network monitoring.
  • Improved per process memory monitoring in macOS 10.11 and 10.12.
  • Improved support for macOS 10.13.
  • Improved bluetooth battery monitoring.
  • Improved disk monitoring performance.
  • Fixed an issue with the sun position in light map.
 
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Give a try to 5.32 (23 August 2017):
  • Improved support for 2017 MacBook Pros.
  • Improved support for 2017 MacBooks.
  • Improved support for 2017 iMacs.
  • Improved per process network monitoring.
  • Improved per process memory monitoring in macOS 10.11 and 10.12.
  • Improved support for macOS 10.13.
  • Improved bluetooth battery monitoring.
  • Improved disk monitoring performance.
  • Fixed an issue with the sun position in light map.
Installed but i have same problem
 
Yep, same here. One question, I use the dark theme for my menu bar, in previous versions of iStatMenu I had displayed CPU and GPU temperatures in the menu bar which I had selected the font to be green so it stood out amongst all the other menu items. Now no matter what selection I use as far as colour (color) the temperatures are just white.
 
I would shoot Django an email. It could just be a matter of needing another update.

I imagine getting an accurate temp via Apples undocumented NVMeSMARTClient (is that the right API?) from a proprietary SSD is more than a trivial task vs Windows.

Personally I always recommend TG Pro (not free) because of support and features but I can't guarantee it would display your SSD temps either.
 
I would shoot Django an email. It could just be a matter of needing another update.

I imagine getting an accurate temp via Apples undocumented NVMeSMARTClient (is that the right API?) from a proprietary SSD is more than a trivial task vs Windows.

Personally I always recommend TG Pro (not free) because of support and features but I can't guarantee it would display your SSD temps either.
Oh ty. Just tried with trial version and it shows ssd temp. So it is a bug in iStat Menus 5. I wanted to buy it 2 days ago but luckly i found out yesterday that they are going to release iStat Menu 6 soon and no free upgrade.

Btw 18$ is a bit much for TG Pro
 
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Back in June when I took delivery of my 2017 iMac I had similar problems with iStat Menus. Bjango advised me to download a copy directly from their website (not upgrade) and that fixed it.

I upgraded that version to the update just released (5.32) with no problems.
 
I purchased a new $18 then current version of 5.3.2 earlier this month when I received my 2017 iMac. SSD temp was not displayed. Then I upgraded to the latest release a couple days ago. Still no SSD temp. From the comments above, it looks like I'll be spending another $18 soon ??
 
I purchased a new $18 then current version of 5.3.2 earlier this month when I received my 2017 iMac. SSD temp was not displayed. Then I upgraded to the latest release a couple days ago. Still no SSD temp. From the comments above, it looks like I'll be spending another $18 soon ??

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Yes, I had not noticed that the SSD temp is not displaying properly. I am going to contact Bjango myself as well. I upgraded to V5 when it was released and I will probably upgrade to V6 depending on new features/improvements but I'm sure it's just a bug that they will fix because support for the 2017 iMac was part of the release notes for V5.32.
 
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Yes, I had not noticed that the SSD temp is not displaying properly. I am going to contact Bjango myself as well. I upgraded to V5 when it was released and I will probably upgrade to V6 depending on new features/improvements but I'm sure it's just a bug that they will fix because support for the 2017 iMac was part of the release notes for V5.32.
unfortunatelly you will need to pay (not full price but still not a good thing) link
 
Yeah, it's usually half price for upgrades but I'm sure this issue with the SSD temperature is a bug that Bjango will fix for V5 users.

Good to know we are in the same boat and that it will likely be corrected before too long at a zero or moderate cost. Thanks for your inputs.

It was kind of a "completeness" thing for me, as I'm guessing that the SSD temp will not be high and not much different from other "ambient" sensors near the internal electronics.
 
While Macs Fan Control may be able to show the internal SSD temperature it is a temp sensor and fan utility only. It is different than iStat Menus and not way better either in my opinion.

Explain. What can istat do thats so critical that macs fan control cant do?
 
Explain. What can istat do thats so critical that macs fan control cant do?

Features
  • CPU -- Monitor cpu usage. 7 display modes, multiple core support.
  • Memory -- Monitor memory usage. 4 display modes, page ins/outs and swap usage display.
  • Disks -- Monitor disk usage and activity. 6 display modes, ability to hide disks you dont want to see.
  • Network -- Monitor current and total bandwidth, peak bandwidth, IP addresses, and the ability to hide network connections you don't want to see.
  • Temps -- Monitor the temperature of your Mac. 2 display modes, ability to hide sensors you don't want to see.
  • Fans -- Monitor the fan speeds in your Mac. 2 display modes, ability to hide sensors you don't want to see.
  • Bluetooth -- Control bluetooth status plus monitor the battery level of your Apple wireless keyboard or mouse.
  • Date & Time -- Date and time in your menubar. World clock display lets you see the time in multiple locations around the world.
iStat Menus exclusive features in red.

Also, I never used the word critical. I said iStat Menus is different and that Macs Fan Control is not way better.
 
I also use mac fan control. It is a nice app since it is free but has limited function. Istat menus gives stats about everything of the mac. Tg pro is better than both when you need to create fan rules.
 
Features
  • CPU -- Monitor cpu usage. 7 display modes, multiple core support.
  • Memory -- Monitor memory usage. 4 display modes, page ins/outs and swap usage display.
  • Disks -- Monitor disk usage and activity. 6 display modes, ability to hide disks you dont want to see.
  • Network -- Monitor current and total bandwidth, peak bandwidth, IP addresses, and the ability to hide network connections you don't want to see.
  • Temps -- Monitor the temperature of your Mac. 2 display modes, ability to hide sensors you don't want to see.
  • Fans -- Monitor the fan speeds in your Mac. 2 display modes, ability to hide sensors you don't want to see.
  • Bluetooth -- Control bluetooth status plus monitor the battery level of your Apple wireless keyboard or mouse.
  • Date & Time -- Date and time in your menubar. World clock display lets you see the time in multiple locations around the world.
iStat Menus exclusive features in red.

Also, I never used the word critical. I said iStat Menus is different and that Macs Fan Control is not way better.

Yea sounds like it has a lot of monitoring features. I might check it out.
I just like macs fan control because its a simple striaghtforward way to bypass apples hard drive temp sensors and just have the mac use the S.M.A.R.T. sensors ... and keep the fans where they should be even after youve installed a non apple hard drive.

On a side note, having replaced the fusion drive in my 2017 imac with a 2tb ssd, I've discovered Apple is no longer using their proprietary heat sensors for the hard drive.
There was nothing attached to the fusion drive and fans are quiet with the crucial ssd, even without macs fan control running.

So I no longer need macs fan control at all!!!
 
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Oh ty. Just tried with trial version and it shows ssd temp. So it is a bug in iStat Menus 5. I wanted to buy it 2 days ago but luckly i found out yesterday that they are going to release iStat Menu 6 soon and no free upgrade.

Btw 18$ is a bit much for TG Pro

Keep in mind....it works....apparently. Not saying this is a "get what you pay for situation" but there is something to be said about a temp sensing program that can measure temps (SSD) vs a temp sensing program that cannot measure temps. :) Also its a fan controller which goes hand in hand with temps.

I do agree it is expensive now. I originally bought it for ~10 dollars years ago. But that $18 could be easily justified depending on what you are trying to accomplish.

When I got it there were no other programs available that could adjust the fan speed to specific component temps in a way TG Pro could. For example when gaming I wanted the fan to:

1. SLOWLY ramp up over the course of time when GPU temps reached 85c (not just shoot to max)
2. Not exceed 80% max fan speed for that single component unless OS X needed to override it
3. Not need to turn it off when done gaming

That way the fan would quietly increase before the OS would ramp it up and keep the GPU cooler than stock while minimizing noise levels all without overriding the OS fan control so I didn't need to turn it on/off before and after gaming. BTW the problem I was having is the OS would increase the fan to max on and off, on and off which got tiring. The above method had it running longer but at lower speeds (quieter) which was much easier to tolerate.

While that list seemed ridiculous request TG Pro easily accomplished it.

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I'm not sure but maybe other programs offer that now? At the time when I got TG Pro they didn't. Or if they got close it was sketchy because they would override the OS fan control and cause the CPU to overheat when I was transcoding videos if I forgot to turn it off.

Regardless I do feel its a premium product and therefore should command a premium price although $18 dollars does seem excessive.

But they took something that is relatively trivial (measuring temps) and cranked it to 11. From a plethora of menu bar customizations to the app being able to email you a notification on temp/fan triggers plus logging for diagnostic reasons.

Plus it sticks to specifically temps and fan control without bloating the software with "other" features that are unrelated to that. I know other features can just be ignored but I feel like a program is gimmicky when they start adding things unrelated to its original purpose. Like an iOS calculator app that has a compass function or something.

Not only are the dev(s) active members here that take customer feedback seriously they respond to support emails very quickly and are always helpful. I had a minor issue with an update, and they responded and fixed my issue within an hour on a Saturday.

Yes, I know I sound like a paid shill. However this is a program that is often overlooked and I've been extremely happy with it so I feel somewhat obligated to at least let people know it exist.
 
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Keep in mind....it works....apparently. Not saying this is a "get what you pay for situation" but there is something to be said about a temp sensing program that can measure temps (SSD) vs a temp sensing program that cannot measure temps. :) Also its a fan controller which goes hand in hand with temps.

I do agree it is expensive now. I originally bought it for ~10 dollars years ago. But that $18 could be easily justified depending on what you are trying to accomplish.

When I got it there were no other programs available that could adjust the fan speed to specific component temps in a way TG Pro could. For example when gaming I wanted the fan to:

1. SLOWLY ramp up over the course of time when GPU temps reached 85c (not just shoot to max)
2. Not exceed 80% max fan speed for that single component unless OS X needed to override it
3. Not need to turn it off when done gaming

That way the fan would quietly increase before the OS would ramp it up and keep the GPU cooler than stock while minimizing noise levels all without overriding the OS fan control so I didn't need to turn it on/off before and after gaming. BTW the problem I was having is the OS would increase the fan to max on and off, on and off which got tiring. The above method had it running longer but at lower speeds (quieter) which was much easier to tolerate.

While that list seemed ridiculous request TG Pro easily accomplished it.

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I'm not sure but maybe other programs offer that now? At the time when I got TG Pro they didn't. Or if they got close it was sketchy because they would override the OS fan control and cause the CPU to overheat when I was transcoding videos if I forgot to turn it off.

Regardless I do feel its a premium product and therefore should command a premium price although $18 dollars does seem excessive.

But they took something that is relatively trivial (measuring temps) and cranked it to 11. From a plethora of menu bar customizations to the app being able to email you a notification on temp/fan triggers plus logging for diagnostic reasons.

Plus it sticks to specifically temps and fan control without bloating the software with "other" features that are unrelated to that. I know other features can just be ignored but I feel like a program is gimmicky when they start adding things unrelated to its original purpose. Like an iOS calculator app that has a compass function or something.

Not only are the dev(s) active members here that take customer feedback seriously they respond to support emails very quickly and are always helpful. I had a minor issue with an update, and they responded and fixed my issue within an hour on a Saturday.

Yes, I know I sound like a paid shill. However this is a program that is often overlooked and I've been extremely happy with it so I feel somewhat obligated to at least let people know it exist.
I agree with everything you said and it should still be the best software to customize fan profile on mac. Just the price i think is a bit high (still low If you consider that some app have a paid upgrade every year).
I will probably end up buy both, TG pro and iStat Menus (but i am going to wait for v6 release).
I have always loved to know everything that happen on my computer.
 
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I agree with everything you said and it should still be the best software to customize fan profile on mac. Just the price i think is a bit high (still low If you consider that some app have a paid upgrade every year).
I will probably end up buy both, TG pro and iStat Menus (but i am going to wait for v6 release).
I have always loved to know everything that happen on my computer.

Admittedly I can't remember if I tried iStat Menus back in the day however.....

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Maybe I'm overlooking something but is it the same price as TG Pro for new customers AND you need to pay for upgrades?! I'm probably just missing something so I apologize in advance.
 
Yea sounds like it has a lot of monitoring features. I might check it out.
I just like macs fan control because its a simple striaghtforward way to bypass apples hard drive temp sensors and just have the mac use the S.M.A.R.T. sensors ... and keep the fans where they should be even after youve installed a non apple hard drive.

On a side note, having replaced the fusion drive in my 2017 imac with a 2tb ssd, I've discovered Apple is no longer using their proprietary heat sensors for the hard drive.
There was nothing attached to the fusion drive and fans are quiet with the crucial ssd, even without macs fan control running.

So I no longer need macs fan control at all!!!

Fusion Drive is virtual, so isn't possible to attach something physical to him
 
Admittedly I can't remember if I tried iStat Menus back in the day however.....

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Maybe I'm overlooking something but is it the same price as TG Pro for new customers AND you need to pay for upgrades?! I'm probably just missing something so I apologize in advance.
No, i was talking abou TG pro that, if I am not wrong, doesn't have paid upgrade every year.
 
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