So, a query that I thought your collective insight might be helpful for. there are two imacs at 2.8 ghz on the refurb mac store; one is Core 2 Duo, one is Core 2 Extreme (one also has 320GB vs. 500GB, and there is a $50 diff). Both are in my price range. I am buying for work, but while it's not my pocketbook, it's my department's so I am trying to keep the price a prominent factor. New is 1699 with ed price. Mostly the difference is that I could get a free ipod touch (which i would likely sell or make as a gift to someone) with their promo, but not for the refurb models. It's also true that the ipod will lose a solid chunk of it's value (presumably) next week. So is it worth it to buy the new model and get the ipod giveaway or get the refurbs and save 100-150 but get no ipod. I don't need hard drive space so much, since most of my files are on external storage anyway, so it's not much of a factor to me. My hope is really that I won't have to replace this machine for 3-4 years. It's a stretch given the work I do on it (mostly CS3, Office 08, and sometimes audio and video editing too), but I need something to get me as close to that cycle as possible. Thoughts? Thanks muchly in advance!