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To each his own. You clearly didn't read my post carefully. I said I built a hackintosh, I didn't tell the OP he should build a hackintosh. I explicitly stated that he'd get more for his money by building a PC. You also didn't read the part where I said Macs are stable computers that are up and running out the box. Hackintoshing is undoubtedly a niche hobby and isn't geared for everyone, but building and running a Windows PC also requires "tinkering" and maintenance as well, so it's not a completely hassle-free experience. Have you built a hackintosh? Do you know exactly what the process entails? Unless you have, don't comment on a matter that you don't have any experience with or are extremely ignorant about. Hackintoshes don't utilize "hacked software." They use legal copies of software that have been purchased by their respective end users (or at least they were supposed to unless someone torrents or pirates it).

"To be honest, you'll get so much for your money by building a PC." --- this is a recommendation for the PC route.

I agree with the PC route if you're a teen and have the energy, time and need for a top-glass gaming system (or cheap PC that is worthless after a few years). In this case the PC is the right choice.
 
"To be honest, you'll get so much for your money by building a PC." --- this is a recommendation for the PC route.

I agree with the PC route if you're a teen and have the energy, time and need for a top-glass gaming system (or cheap PC that is worthless after a few years). In this case the PC is the right choice.

Totally agreed. A lot of people don't require their workstation to be top-notch. In fact, while Apple does make Mac Pro as a somewhat top-notch workstation, in Mac vs. DIY comparison it still doesn't explain why there are still considerable amount of people buying mac.

As a technician, I can say this for sure. There are almost only 2 cases where a computer needs to be either top-notch or perfectly controlled: 1. you are an engineer, and you require semi-corporate level computer or 2. you play video games and want your games to be running on highest settings.

In first scenario, yeah, whatever. Your workstation, your project, and as long you can maintain your computer, fine. But engineers don't call it "DIY," they call it "customized," and many of the engineers still buy brand computers, even if''s not Mac. No. 2, on the other hand, that's really open only for teen with tight budget.

People with professional jobs that need to be done on their workstation don't do DIY. I am so serious.
 
The sensationalism of fanboyism...gotta love it! As someone who owns several real Macs and a Hackintosh, I believe each provide their respective user experience. Notice in my post how I reflected on the quality of PC components I used for "building a PC" and not the process of Hackintoshing. No where in my post did I mention that Hackintoshes were superior to Macs, I simply stated the superiority of the hardware I was using and the experience it provides ME, versus that of my former iMac. Teens (yeah I'm a teen, still live at home with mom and dad, and can afford to purchase several Apple/Mac products and still Hackintosh...give me a break, how pathetic of an explanation), ok, go check the forums at TonyMacx86 and then you'll see how many teens, aka, professionals, adults, and working-class individuals turn to Hackintoshing for a great and productive user experience that earns them a living. Bunch of alarmists on here who are sensitized by their ignorance and don't know how to read the fine print, but get up in arms when someone else presents an opinion that differs from theirs...

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Oh I forgot, using a real Mac and my love for OSX were the gateway to Hackintoshing, and Hackintoshing was just another way for me to experience what it was like to run an excellent OS on powerful hardware. That is why I briefly mentioned hackintoshing, when once again, describing the build of my PC.
 
The sensationalism of fanboyism...gotta love it! As someone who owns several real Macs and a Hackintosh, I believe each provide their respective user experience. Notice in my post how I reflected on the quality of PC components I used for "building a PC" and not the process of Hackintoshing. No where in my post did I mention that Hackintoshes were superior to Macs, I simply stated the superiority of the hardware I was using and the experience it provides ME, versus that of my former iMac. Teens (yeah I'm a teen, still live at home with mom and dad, and can afford to purchase several Apple/Mac products and still Hackintosh...give me a break, how pathetic of an explanation), ok, go check the forums at TonyMacx86 and then you'll see how many teens, aka, professionals, adults, and working-class individuals turn to Hackintoshing for a great and productive user experience that earns them a living. Bunch of alarmists on here who are sensitized by their ignorance and don't know how to read the fine print, but get up in arms when someone else presents an opinion that differs from theirs...

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Oh I forgot, using a real Mac and my love for OSX were the gateway to Hackintoshing, and Hackintoshing was just another way for me to experience what it was like to run an excellent OS on powerful hardware. That is why I briefly mentioned hackintoshing, when once again, describing the build of my PC.

No, it's ok. I mean, a lot of people are neither offended nor disagree with your opinion on the level of hardware being used on Macs. In fact, with the price tag on each Mac, I suppose anyone with right mind can still argue, 'why don't we try to port whatever the heck you do on mac to PC.' So it did, many of the professional softwares used these days also come out with a copy of PC version.

But here's the thing. Using or choosing a mac has always been a question of liability and stability. Brand PCs can be "liable" but usually not "stable" due to its nature. If something breaks in a PC, it's not always obvious whom you want to call, but you know you can still make someone liable of this failure. However, it does not guarantee you can get back to work ASAP. Mac –it's actually it's a trait of all POSIX– can guarantee both liability and stability for work. If there is any problem, Apple is almost always responsible to fix your problem unless it's caused on purpose. Think of it as how NASA uses completely outdated CPUs in their spaceships, shuttles, and satellites. It seems expansive and meaningless on the price tag, but there is a reason why businesses require such strategy.

Both DIY and hackintosh does not guarantee liability nor stability. It will be stable, all right, but you can never say "it never breaks." Everything breaks at some point. It will require regular maintenance, and because since it is a DIY setup, it's practically an alpha-version of any brand PCs. Anything can happen, and the opportunity cost of such "happening" can be tremendous.

You might be even more familiar with the "lawnmower" example. You can install whatever software on your "smart-lawnmower," –assuming there is one–*you can even build one for yourself. I guarantee DIY lawnmower will be cheaper. Using a PC is like buying a mass-produced lawnmower. If you have a PC in an office with a proper tech support department, you have a guy who mows your lawn with your choice of a lawnmower. The question can be raised whether you should even bother to choose a lawnmower. Why not just call somebody, and pay him to do the job? That's the Mac. It seems expansive; but in opportunity cost-wise, if your current job is paying more what you pay for lawn mowing, you have made perfectly reasonable decision.

One more thing, please refrain yourself from abusing the word "fanboyism" in any case. It's an extreme word, it takes more than few dozens of posts on a single thread to accuse someone or some people as fanboys while they are explaining their choice of particular products. No one has to be a fanboy of kleenex to blow his/her nose.
 
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The sensationalism of fanboyism...gotta love it! As someone who owns several real Macs and a Hackintosh, I believe each provide their respective user experience. Notice in my post how I reflected on the quality of PC components I used for "building a PC" and not the process of Hackintoshing. No where in my post did I mention that Hackintoshes were superior to Macs, I simply stated the superiority of the hardware I was using and the experience it provides ME, versus that of my former iMac. Teens (yeah I'm a teen, still live at home with mom and dad, and can afford to purchase several Apple/Mac products and still Hackintosh...give me a break, how pathetic of an explanation), ok, go check the forums at TonyMacx86 and then you'll see how many teens, aka, professionals, adults, and working-class individuals turn to Hackintoshing for a great and productive user experience that earns them a living. Bunch of alarmists on here who are sensitized by their ignorance and don't know how to read the fine print, but get up in arms when someone else presents an opinion that differs from theirs...

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Oh I forgot, using a real Mac and my love for OSX were the gateway to Hackintoshing, and Hackintoshing was just another way for me to experience what it was like to run an excellent OS on powerful hardware. That is why I briefly mentioned hackintoshing, when once again, describing the build of my PC.

Here's the thing. The OP asked for a recommendation. Not what works for only you. As for the number of Hackintoshers.... yes I am interested in seeing that number. I would say it doesn't exceed 50,000 people. And hackingtoshing itself is a hobby apart from actually using the computer.

For most people, maintaining your computer isn't what they had in mind for a "hobby".
 
iMac 27" 2012 vs Building a PC

On the other hand, i can't stop thinking that with the same money a can build a pc much better, that will also be upgratable in the future, with a great LED monitor. Please help.

This alone validates whatever responses I have made thus far, but like I said people clearly don't read. It seems like some feel the OP should buy an iMac and just be done with it; however, he is clearly asking for help on why building a PC would be superior (which in some cases, it is), and I PROVIDED HIM WITH "MY EXPERIENCE" OF WHY PC BUILDING WORKS, in order to help him make an informed decision. When standing in front of a pillar, some only see the side they are standing in front of. Yet they fail to realize that we live in a multi-dimensional world where based on where you stand, you could be viewing that pillar from a completely different angle, thereby changing your perspective. There is always more than one of way of looking at situation, and I'm just trying to help present the OP with several angles, and not just force feed him why he should just buy an iMac and be done with the situation. The ignorance on here is surreal.

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"To be honest, you'll get so much for your money by building a PC." --- this is a recommendation for the PC route.

Yes...it is a recommendation for building a PC because this thread is about "buying an iMac versus building a PC" - and I stand resolutely behind my recommendation. The OP mentions about building a PC that will be upgradable in the future - so answer this, how will building a PC that allows you to upgrade its components and keep it updated, make it a worthless purchase in a few years?
 
Yes...it is a recommendation for building a PC because this thread is about "buying an iMac versus building a PC" - and I stand resolutely behind my recommendation. The OP mentions about building a PC that will be upgradable in the future - so answer this, how will building a PC that allows you to upgrade its components and keep it updated, make it a worthless purchase in a few years?

Think about it this way. Add up all that you will spend on the PC in those few years. You have a total price. Now try to sell this upgraded PC. You may get 10%.

Take an equivalently priced Mac, use it for a few years, then try to sell it. You may get more like 40-50%, and you didn't have to spend much in upgrades.
 
Think about it this way. Add up all that you will spend on the PC in those few years. You have a total price. Now try to sell this upgraded PC. You may get 10%.

Take an equivalently priced Mac, use it for a few years, then try to sell it. You may get more like 40-50%, and you didn't have to spend much in upgrades.

No doubt you didn't get as much performance-per-dollar, either, with the iMac, so it again boils down to what you're after...
 
One more thing, please refrain yourself from abusing the word "fanboyism" in any case. It's an extreme word, it takes more than few dozens of posts on a single thread to accuse someone or some people as fanboys while they are explaining their choice of particular products. No one has to be a fanboy of kleenex to blow his/her nose.

Since when did the single mention of a term constitute as "abuse" of the word? Your statement is flawed. I can understand if I was throwing the word around incessantly, but I referred to it once and with due reason, and you label such as abuse...give me break
 
I think the iMac 27" v PC games machine is a lot closer than most people think. Once you've taken into account a nice 27" IPS screen, you're probably not paying that much more if you don't get Apple installed SSD and RAM.

I bought a refurbished 2011 iMac 27" and installed a 512GB SSD and 32GB RAM for around £1600. Your PC wouldn't be far off, and might be a little more powerful (certainly in the GPU department) but it wouldn't look as good on your desk, run OSX and Windows (through Bootcamp of VM) and will run for months without rebooting to speed things back up

It is very much a personal choice though, so not sure what you'll get from everyone's personal opinions in this thread :confused:
 
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