iMac 27" Target Display mode with Display Port equipped windows PCs

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  1. gianly1985 macrumors 6502a

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    For DVI/HDMI sources we have to wait the mythical holy adapters™ which will come out and maybe they'll be active adapters (like Atlona boxes).

    But for Display Port equipped PCs....


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    Right?
     
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    Display Port to mini-Display Port should work with a simple adapter but it's a little silly having two desktop computers in my opinion.
     
  4. thomanjones macrumors regular

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    That would be a perfect gaming rig setup for tight spaces.
     
  5. justperry macrumors 604

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    My 2 cents.
    I think it will only connect to supported hardware like mac products and/or audio/video pro stuff!
     
  6. gianly1985 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    On forums I meet TONS of nerds with an iMac and a gaming PC over and under the same desk....now they could use a single display (and we're talking about a 1000$-worth display) instead of getting a separate display for the gaming PC....to get the same result, they'd have to buy another 27" IPS 1000$ display for the PC...not an option for "the masses" but definitely not silly...
     
  7. J the Ninja macrumors 68000

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    No, that would be forgetting the tower and getting the iMac with the 4850 and Boot Camp. I think it's mainly meant as a second display, like if you had a MacBook as your travel buddy, and an iMac at home, you could use the iMac's screen with the MacBook, if you were so inclined.

    That, or attach it to your Mac Pro and set the iMac up for distributed rendering. (hell, $2k for a 27" IPS monitor that happens to have a Lynnfield-based QMaster mule on it's back? That's doesn't sound like such a bad deal, really.)
     
  8. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    Why would you get an iMac and another desktop again? The iMac isn't a notebook so it's redundant.
     
  9. rhinosrcool macrumors 65816

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    I have two Thinkpads. If I could, at times, use the iMac's huge IPS display, that would be awesome.
     
  10. gianly1985 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Ok, let's assume I want a gaming PC and a 27" IPS monitor. And a powerful Mac as my main computer for everthing else.

    Oooops a 27" IPS monitor costs nearly 1000euros (from Dell european shop).

    Guess I'll take the 1799euros option with a nehalem Mac attached on the back....

    With the 799euros of difference I could buy what? a white Macbook?

    If there was a cheap quad core Macbook Pro maybe you'd be right, but since there's not....the "double desktop" could make sense (if you do gaming and love Mac for everything else)....

    I remind you that some people in this forum spend X grands on a MacPro just to get gaming grade gpu options......maybe they would spend less and get a 1000$-worth display in the process with the "double desktop" setup...
     
  11. thomanjones macrumors regular

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    I agree completely, though some some gamers like to go all out with crossfire'd 1GB cards and 10 jigabits of pixel shading-coffee making power; for them, not having to spring for an extra monitor, this is a fantastic setup.
     
  12. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    It makes sense in that situation

    Another situation I have trouble understanding is plugging your Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro into your Core 2 Duo iMac.

    The Target Display Mode feature is still new though. Is the iMac's hardware disabled then or can it hotswap inputs? Any PIP?
     
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  14. glitch44 macrumors 65816

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    gianly1985, do you have an ATI 5870 box to try this when you get your Imac?
     
  15. gianly1985 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    1) I'm not buying a new iMac at the moment

    2) There's no need for a pricey ATI 5870 to perform that experiment, it can be done with any DP-equipped video card, the 5870 was just an example
     
  16. JonHimself macrumors 68000

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    Ouu good point. I'm not sure what the advantage would be of hooking it up (I can't see many uses, is what I mean) but possible... light peek connections would be great for display too though (perhaps on the next imacs)
     
  17. MacApple21 macrumors member

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    Exactly, you basically you get the Quad Nehalem Mac for 799€. I believe this is a lot better than anything else offered by Apple or maybe anyone else.
    In any case I'm planning on hooking my coming iMac up to a "gaming PC" (running the Antichrist OS), and use it for gaming.
    I've talked to Apple support, a according to the person i talked to, this is perfectly possible.
    Actually I think Apple have thought about this as the best solution for "Mac gamers", in any case it's a lot cheaper than buying a Mac Pro, and in future you've got the possibility of upgrading your "gamer PC" easily and cheaply, compared to a Mac Pro.
    The optimum solution would have been a better native iMac GPU, but in lack of better, this seems to be the second best.
     
  18. Meriana macrumors member

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    it's acutally not a bad idea to have a seperate gaming computer together with a imac. For the moment i'll assume that display is worth about $1000 and you already have a mac somewhere or you're planing to get one. I further assume that you want a 27" for gaming anyway (and the needed gpu power for such a display). That cuts you down to a price difference of $700!

    Of course you should be willing to spend some bucks on gaming equipment.

    Depends a bit on the setting you have. If the other mac you already have is always avaible to you and you're perfect fine on donig everything else than gaming on it, its a bit pricy.

    The advantages:
    -Family licenses: you don't have to buy windows and os x versions of e.g Microsoft Office (worth at least $100)
    -you have a backup gaming machine if your gaming pc fails. (not as god as on Windows but more then nothing, right?).
    -you get a good keyboard and mouse, worth another $100 (i put only $100 because you'd want to buy a usb switch).
    -if you want a machine that's always on, the imac will use less engergy than a highend gaming computer, could save up to or even more than $100 a year, assuming at lest 3 years use: $300
    -it looks good
    -you don't have to invest money to silence you gaming pc if you want it to run silent when not gaming, saves around $100 on the PC price
    -you're frineds will be impressed if they see that crisis runs on your imac that well (not nowing that is a gaming pc powering it ;) )

    Of course this only works if youre willing and capable to spend another $1000 on fast gaming pc. Because you already have a mac, i recommand to make it a spare one: powersupply, mainboard,fast cpu, lots of ram, at the moment a ati radeon 5870 (or later an x2/5970). 500GB harddrive, a blue-ray drive or a cheap dvd drive, maybe a creatvie soundcard, big tower.

    Sounds resonable for me.
     
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  20. gianly1985 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Thank you for sharing your experience.

    I'm starting to think there's some sort of hardware-lock or hardware_function_integrated_only_in_Macs_with_MiniDP that allow only Macs' MiniDPs to do the magic "video out become video IN" trick on the 27" iMac.....

    So we have to wait for the adapters from Apple....and slow down our "I can hook my x360/ps3/PC to the thing"-dreams for the moment.....
     
  21. circularref macrumors newbie

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    The iMac DisplayPort input works when connected to a PC with a Radeon 4890:
    http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1462524&page=3

    There seems to be a hardware/firmware issue with the Radeon 5000 series that is preventing it from working with the iMac (as well as the 24" ACD) at the moment.
     
  22. gianly1985 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Thank you, excellent news! So it was 5xxx's fault...
     
  23. wrxdrunkie macrumors member

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    Any update on this since the new firmware came out?

    I having a gaming pc and want to get a) an amazing monitor b) a mac with wireless keyboard and mouse.

    So the best option seems to be the 27" imac

    If anyone with a 5XXX series card gets it working please update us!
     
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