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MacsRgr8 said:
That's the problem.
Now we know not all consumers play games on their Macs, but its pretty impossible to get a game like Call of Duty running decently on a brand new $ 1799,- iMac, let alone future games. Hasn't got the CPU power NOR the GPU.
So for the same $ 1799 (middle iMac) there sould be at least a 1.8 GHz G5 in there with the Radeon 9800 Pro. Nothing special at all! All last year's technology.
Get the X800 (or 6800) in the upcoming PowerMacs and we should be on par with the best PC's out there.
But we will have Mac OS X on them too! :) (to compensate the extra cost :D )
Thats just so true, if base Powermac ends up being a single 1.8 as thinksecret says then you can be sure imac wont exceed that machine. If so i just may jump ship and buy me a hot gaming rig from Alienware but i have been waiting this year as a long time Mac user to see if Apple would ever make up all the ground they lost. I'm into Hardware and Apples seems to be allways behind. When Doom3 comes out ill be making a purchase one way or the other.
 
A single 1.8 Ghz G5 as a PowerMac is outrageous. 7 months ago Apple noticed that the Single 1.8 Ghz G5 wasn't selling at all. So they made it a Duallie, and presto: it sold gr8.
So now, those 7 months later, Apple expects a Single 1.8 GHz would be sold AT ALL??? This can't be true....

I hope that this rumor is a bit mixed up:
Single 1.8 G5 = iMac
Dual 2.5 G5 = PowerMac

I also hope Doom3 is launched after WWDC, so that hopefully you gan go and get a decent Mac, able to play Doom3 fine at a resonable price....

....otherwise you'll have to get that sub $ 1600 alienware.

"Choose wisely" :D
 
confirmation(maybe)

uncle zeppy said this on the blocked in cj=hina thread
It used to blocked here in Shanghai but now it's working again. I thought first maybe the reason is the Apple store; you can check the prices around the world and then go to local Apple store and complain, and end up getting the laptop from Hong Kong or some other country. Then I realized the store is accessible directly (store.apple.com). The blockage was annoying mostly because even the Chinese website has always worked (www.apple.com.cn) there were some things I needed to see in English.

I think in the future things might be the otherway around, the Chinese Apple site will be blocked from outsiders. According to my source all the Apple computers are made in China and there will be cheaper models targeting the local market. The new iMac G5's are made here but production is very slow (lack of CPU's?). They must be just filling the pipeline.
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stockscalper said:
There are no G5 imacs being made.

Whether we see the G5 iMac soon or not is one question, however whether it's next Tuesday @ WWDC or February 2005, they will undoubtedly be released in the near future, and furthermore, Apple is definitely at least working on them as we speak. Whether they are technically "being made" right now, i.e. manufcatured, I guess is open for debate, but they are definitely in the development cycles right now - how far along is the question everyone is curious to know the answer to...
 
What's with the elitist bias?

RichardCarletta said:
Does Apple really need to showoff a consumer mac at a softtware show ?

What do you have against developers who write consumer software or hardware accessory developers?
 
~Shard~ said:
Whether we see the G5 iMac soon or not is one question, however whether it's next Tuesday @ WWDC or February 2005, they will undoubtedly be released in the near future, and furthermore, Apple is definitely at least working on them as we speak. Whether they are technically "being made" right now, i.e. manufcatured, I guess is open for debate, but they are definitely in the development cycles right now - how far along is the question everyone is curious to know the answer to...

Okay here is what I think. If the current iMac was going to be upgraded to a 1.5Ghz G4, 512K L2, a better gfx card, bigger std HD, etc. it would have already happened, so something is different about this new iMac then just a speed and feature bump. I think it has to come soon. Right now the eMac has a better, newer version of the G4 with 512K L2 and the base 15 inch iMac is a 1Ghz G4 while the base eMac is a 1.25Ghz. This line up makes no sense to last much longer. I think we would have seen 1.5Ghz iMac's released when the Powerbook was upgraded if they did not plan to do something major soon to it...anyone else see what I do???
 
Abercrombieboy said:
Okay here is what I think. If the current iMac was going to be upgraded to a 1.5Ghz G4, 512K L2, a better gfx card, bigger std HD, etc. it would have already happened, so something is different about this new iMac then just a speed and feature bump. I think it has to come soon. Right now the eMac has a better, newer version of the G4 with 512K L2 and the base 15 inch iMac is a 1Ghz G4 while the base eMac is a 1.25Ghz. This line up makes no sense to last much longer. I think we would have seen 1.5Ghz iMac's released when the Powerbook was upgraded if they did not plan to do something major soon to it...anyone else see what I do???

I agree. The current iMac is not what we should expect from Apple. Keeping the 15" iMac slower than the eMac would be just plain stupid. They have to come up in WWDC, or at least Paris Expo with a better processor, grfx card, and something new that makes people "ooooohh!!!". Otherwise the iMac is dead. Also, they should decide are they going to sell it at what price. Being a consumer machine, the iMac should be sold with a consumer-like price.
 
Abercrombieboy said:
Okay here is what I think. If the current iMac was going to be upgraded to a 1.5Ghz G4, 512K L2, a better gfx card, bigger std HD, etc. it would have already happened, so something is different about this new iMac then just a speed and feature bump. I think it has to come soon. Right now the eMac has a better, newer version of the G4 with 512K L2 and the base 15 inch iMac is a 1Ghz G4 while the base eMac is a 1.25Ghz. This line up makes no sense to last much longer. I think we would have seen 1.5Ghz iMac's released when the Powerbook was upgraded if they did not plan to do something major soon to it...anyone else see what I do???

I agree, if they were just going to bring the specs up to the eMac specs, we would have seen it already - you can't have your educational/consumer machines outperforming your prosumer machines. Also, remember that we are still waiting for "Power Mac 8,1", which is likely the iMac with a new architecture.
 
iMac prices

G4-power said:
I agree. The current iMac is not what we should expect from Apple. Keeping the 15" iMac slower than the eMac would be just plain stupid. They have to come up in WWDC, or at least Paris Expo with a better processor, grfx card, and something new that makes people "ooooohh!!!". Otherwise the iMac is dead. Also, they should decide are they going to sell it at what price. Being a consumer machine, the iMac should be sold with a consumer-like price.

Sorry, but unless Apple sells them without attached flat panel displays, the iMacs will likely continue to be priced in the prosumer range, especially if they get new graphics cards, the elastic bus, SATA, and faster RAM. :rolleyes:
 
MacinDoc said:
Sorry, but unless Apple sells them without attached flat panel displays, the iMacs will likely continue to be priced in the prosumer range, especially if they get new graphics cards, the elastic bus, SATA, and faster RAM. :rolleyes:
Yeah, true. But they shouldnt sell a consumer machine at a prosumer price, like they are doing now. It's just too old and slow for that price.
 
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