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iMac Pro Available to Order December 14, Starting at $4,999

Brian Y said:
Comment #fail.

How many pros actually do this? A handful. Your average guy that needs this kind of power probably doesn't even know what a Xeon is, let alone how to upgrade this.
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Total rubbish. I don't think you understand or know any actual "Pros" to begin with.
 
zorinlynx said:
That's where they've always been on the 27" slim iMacs.

It doesn't block anything. The fans push air out those openings; the air is warm and rises out the sides. The air intakes are on the bottom edge, well below the exhaust.

It's a good design; it reduces dust intake (since gravity isn't helping the dust get there) and avoids unsightly ventilation holes on the top like older iMacs.
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That maybe find for a dual core i7 or a quad-core i5 that where used in iMac's before (G5's and Core2Duo's included) ... but we're talking about an 8/10/12/14/18-core Xeon workstation CPUs running from 3-2.24Ghz amongst them doing a LOT more computational work. There have been a few 2008, 2011, 2013 iMac's that suffered GPU issues where recalls or extended warranty returns where honored by Apple. Those models has cases twice as thick as well.

Recall the PowerMac G5 requiring more fans a new case from the G4's? All based on the processor.
 
dan110 said:
Dear Apple,

It's not a "Pro" machine if you can't upgrade and modify it after purchase.

#Fail ... Again!
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Here’s a response from Ars Technica about how they manage a 3-year upgrade cycle for Macs. Spoiler - zero upgrading involved.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ple-are-already-using-it/?comments=1&start=80

When I worked in an Architecture firm of 50 people, we gave up "upgrading". The time it took me to do incremental upgrades (usually just RAM and new GPUs) would be a substantial fraction of the total cost to upgrade, and every minute was time lost to supporting staff in the work that needed to be done. And, after the upgrade the entire rest of the machine was still a few years old, with a higher potential for failures in the hard drives, PSUs, etc. We couldn't afford to keep many extra machines in a closet "just in case", and a failed machine was often a lost day at least, sometimes more, for people on deadlines, even when you had a hot spare. This is because software and updates need to be brought up to current spec, and that was half a day all by itself.
We did a detailed analysis and found that buying new machines for the Architects every 3 years, then trickling down the best of the old machines to Project Managers, Admin and Management, was by far the best approach. The rest of the machines got donated to local schools for a tax write-off. It minimized staff downtime, maximized staff effectiveness, and improved staff morale when they got brand new machines on a regular basis. The only deal killer is non upgradable RAM, because you might buy 50 machines with 32GB, then get a massive project where the team genuinely needs 64GB. In that case I add the RAM for the duration of the project, then pull it again so it's available for the next team that needs it. That and de-dusting was the only reason to ever get into a case.
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dan110 said:
Total rubbish. I don't think you understand or know any actual "Pros" to begin with.
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I do know "pros", and I am one myself in effect.

I don't know a single "pro" who has cracked their computer open to drop a new CPU in, etc.
 
Ah crap, I just realized I’m not a Pro...
So no new machine for me!
I assumed when I bought an iPad Pro, that those skills and mindset would be transferable to a larger machine...
I assumed wrong.
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Brian Y said:
I do know "pros", and I am one myself in effect.

I don't know a single "pro" who has cracked their computer open to drop a new CPU in, etc.
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"Pros" usually like to upgrade the graphics card(s) and RAM. Maybe that's why you don't know a single "pro" that has tried to upgrade the CPU. #GoodGrief
 
dan110 said:
"Pros" usually like to upgrade the graphics card(s) and RAM. Maybe that's why you don't know a single "pro" that has tried to upgrade the CPU. #GoodGrief
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LOL. You really spurt some crap.

The RAM is upgradable on the iMac Pro, and so is the graphics via eGPUs. Next? #GoodGrief?
 
I am a "pro". I am also an influencer of purchasing of 1000's of machines annually. We have expressed our opinion through our purchaser on what Apple is passing off as "pro" lately. Ports that work with NOTHING we have without a tax of $200 for adapters. Machines you can't push more life out of via upgrades. You can sit here and squabble all you want. I'm just reporting a reality. They will be losing some serious business because of these decisions. That is not conjecturing that is a flat-out statement of fact by a person making the decisions.
 
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