iMac Pro is CHEAP?

[Amethyst]

I’ve found that if i build the hackintosh which has same spec as iMac pro, i must burn around $5223.

xeon W-2145 - 1113
x299 mainboard - 500 (i known that xeon-w can’t deploy on x299)
10GB rj45 nic - 500
32 GB DDR4 - 300
Radeon Vega 56 - 500
1TB NVME ssd - 500
5K Monitor - 1300
Apple magic keyboard numpad - 130
Apple magic mouse - 80
Case & PSU - 300

total 5223

And this price is not include OS license and some office suite license.

 

[czacha]

So you are looking for excuse to buy one in December?

 

[redheeler]

The price is out of range for most people, but it really isn't bad when you consider the specs. I suspect it will do well in certain markets, such as the enterprise market.

The downside of course is the difficulty of upgrades, and risking voiding your warranty with something as simple as adding RAM.

 

[0388631]

Some Apple equipment you can replicate and some you can't. I think getting the iMac Pro and buying as much as you can afford while keeping in mind future use case should be your priority. Plus, the iMac Pro looks great unless they change the exterior. The only concern I have would be thermal throttling unless Apple has come up with a new way to reduce heat while maintaining power levels.

The price is out of range for most people, but it really isn't bad when you consider the specs. I suspect it will do well in certain markets, such as the enterprise market.

The downside of course is the difficulty of upgrades, and risking voiding your warranty with something as simple as adding RAM.

Would the RAM not be soldered on the new iMac Pros?

 

[redheeler]

Would the RAM not be soldered on the new iMac Pros?

Slots clearly pictured here:

But no access door shown like the normal 27" iMac, meaning DIY upgrades will probably be quite a pain and void warranty.

 

[294307]

Would the RAM not be soldered on the new iMac Pros?

I wish people would stop asking this about server-grade ECC memory

They removed the RAM access door on the iMac Pro, presumably to support their redesigned cooling system.

 

[maflynn]

But no access door shown like the normal 27" iMac, meaning DIY upgrades will probably be quite a pain and void warranty.

Yeah, unless they modified how the iMac is put together, its not something for the faint of heart.

 

[shaunp]

I’ve found that if i build the hackintosh which has same spec as iMac pro, i must burn around $5223.

xeon W-2145 - 1113
x299 mainboard - 500 (i known that xeon-w can’t deploy on x299)
10GB rj45 nic - 500
32 GB DDR4 - 300
Radeon Vega 56 - 500
1TB NVME ssd - 500
5K Monitor - 1300
Apple magic keyboard numpad - 130
Apple magic mouse - 80
Case & PSU - 300

total 5223

And this price is not include OS license and some office suite license.

The PC will be quieter and more future proofed as you can swap components out when you need to. There is a price point when an all-in-one isn't worth it, and I feel Apple reached that a long time ago with the 27" iMac (max spec), let alone the iMac Pro. At $5k and not even been able to swap out the RAM let alone any other component, you must really want one when better alternatives exist.

 

[Shivetya]

I’ve found that if i build the hackintosh which has same spec as iMac pro, i must burn around $5223.


And this price is not include OS license and some office suite license.

pricing exercises like this are pointless. if you pay list consumer prices then some configurations can be made to look really bad in comparison. what you should do is determine how to best accomplish the work you need to do and build appropriately. the problem with stock configurations is that you get what works for the greatest number of people, not what may be best for you.

if this is how you are justifying your purchase you are just deluding yourself.

 

[willmtaylor]

The iMac line is really the most competitively-priced (if you factor in comparable displays) of all the Macs.

 

[shaunp]

The iMac line is really the most competitively-priced (if you factor in comparable displays) of all the Macs.

At the entry point they are, but up the storage, CPU and GPU (RAM you can do yourself elsewhere) and the price isn't so convincing. Yes it's a very well put together package, but I'd rather have a headless Mac and an external matte display

 

[willmtaylor]

At the entry point they are, but up the storage, CPU and GPU (RAM you can do yourself elsewhere) and the price isn't so convincing. Yes it's a very well put together package, but I'd rather have a headless Mac and an external matte display

Yes, which is an excellent case for an updated Mac Mini, but that appears to have been abandoned by Apple at this point.

 

[BurgDog]

Slots clearly pictured here:
But no access door shown like the normal 27" iMac, meaning DIY upgrades will probably be quite a pain and void warranty.

They may surprise us and not glue the case together but even then an Apple certified tech would have no problems getting in, fixing or upgrading parts without voiding warranty. If the parts are Apple parts they will be covered under warranty too. I strongly doubt that Apple would make a business targeted product that is not repairable.

 

[shaunp]

Yes, which is an excellent case for an updated Mac Mini, but that appears to have been abandoned by Apple at this point.

Or even a modular Mac that is i7 based. Whether that be the starting point for the new Mac Pro or a separate product, it's a big gaping hole.

 

[nilk]

In a lot of cases, if you look at purely the value of the hardware components, Apple hardware is often worth the money when it is first released (often providing better value than equivalent PC hardware), especially if RAM is easily upgradeable. I've seen this on various Mac Pro releases (including 2013), and I'm seeing it on the 2017 27" iMacs (especially the base model). Even the cost of internal SSD at any size is worth the money considering it's performance. If you can buy 3rd party RAM you avoid one of the main areas where Apple overcharges.

The iMac Pro being worth the cost for the components at release time is a bit expected. That said, if you pay Apple's price for additional RAM that is going to throw that off.

And of course there is the resale value consideration. Equivalent PC hardware won't hold value as well as Apple gear will.
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Or even a modular Mac that is i7 based. Whether that be the starting point for the new Mac Pro or a separate product, it's a big gaping hole.

I'm hoping the fact that they can release iMacs in both Xeon and non-Xeon configurations, indicates they can have a similar duality with their machines that don't have built-in monitors, and that a mid-range "Mac" model emerges which is a mid-range equivalent to whatever the modular Mac Pro will be.

 

[Amethyst]

So you are looking for excuse to buy one in December?

Nope, HA HA HA, rather than buying a new iMac Pro, I'm looking to adopted 12 Core xeon in my 2013 Mac Pro.

 

[propower]

I think the iMac Pro looks great in every way - except the non-user upgradeable RAM. As far as fan noise goes - I am optimistic that the idle speed is on par with current iMacs and that it will take a hefty load before fans really ramp up. 18 Core Xeon in an iMac - 36 threads - that's just nuts1 To accomodate an 18 core I am hoping the 8 core is like the low end regular iMac and never goes above idle. If so - color me very interested!