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Do you mean the overall dimensions of the head or or the screen itself? Because the screen is currently 16:9. Isn't that a modern aspect ratio?

Haven’t you heard that the 1980’s are back in fashion? Modern nowadays means 4:3 CRT, and vinyl discs.
 
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I purchased a stock iMac Pro from Microcenter in Jan 2018 for $3999 back when they had a lost leader sale. I ended up upgrading the memory to 128GB in early 2020. It is a fantastic machine. The CPU and GPU is sufficient for my needs. I only needed to upgrade the RAM from 32GB to 128GB to accommodate the half dozen windows VMs I use and need to have running concurrently. I am all in on a new M1 iMac if I will be able to run the Window 10 VMs with Parallels. Last I read, the verdict was still out on that.
 
Does this mean a a new iMac is coming this month?
I don't think discontinuing a machine from Dec 2017 means we're getting a refresh this month. Mark Gurman mentioned in a video he posted on Twitter that the M series iMacs would arrive late this year.
 
Do you mean the overall dimensions of the head or or the screen itself? Because the screen is currently 16:9. Isn't that a modern aspect ratio?
I am referring to the 16:9 aspect ratio which came out in 1996. When I moved to 21:9 I knew I couldn't go back, but in the past year I have been using 32:9, and my MBP's internal display now feels like a prison cell. The iPhone is a great example of how increasing the size length of the screen made it feel so much roomier, and the 12 is closer to a 21:9 than the 16:9 of the iMac. Ultrawide makes the widescreen format feel like 4:3. That's why SideCar feels so weird. The iPad is still 4:3 and is terrible at multitasking.
I really hope not (in terms of a redesigned iMac Pro), even with the improved thermals I'm not sure a "pro" level machine can or should be in an AIO format. I really wish they would just do away with the format completely and give us a wider range of mini's for normal use, the pro for pros and enthusiasts and monitors that resemble the iMac, but no chin.
I agree, but the iMac is so iconic that I can't see Apple just giving it up. At this point, a box with a line under it is a universal symbol for the mac.
 
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Haven’t you heard that the 1980’s are back in fashion? Modern nowadays means 4:3 CRT, and vinyl discs.
I’ll gladly take vinyl and wired headphones (or a good pair of speakers) any day versus a file and Bluetooth headphones. Getting ready to go drap a small fortune on a Linn Sondek LP12 and a good Linn amp or perhaps Macintosh amp.
 
I am referring to the 16:9 aspect ratio which came out in 1996. When I moved to 21:9 I knew I couldn't go back, but in the past year I have been using 32:9, and my MBP's internal display now feels like a prison cell. The iPhone is a great example of how increasing the size length of the screen made it feel so much roomier, and the 12 is closer to a 21:9 than the 16:9 of the iMac. Ultrawide makes the widescreen format feel like 4:3. That's why SideCar feels so weird. The iPad is still 4:3 and is terrible at multitasking.

I agree, but the iMac is so iconic that I can't see Apple just giving it up. At this point, a box with a line under it is a universal symbol for the mac.
I don’t think they will give up on the iMac line. The iMac Pro perhaps. Especially if the rumor about the half sized MacPro comes to fruition. Of course that’s all speculation on my part. I’m just waiting for the 16” Apple Silicon MacBook Pro then that probably will be my last Mac ever.
 
I really hope not (in terms of a redesigned iMac Pro), even with the improved thermals I'm not sure a "pro" level machine can or should be in an AIO format. I really wish they would just do away with the format completely and give us a wider range of mini's for normal use, the pro for pros and enthusiasts and monitors that resemble the iMac, but no chin.
Given the architecture of the M series, what kind of expansion do you envision?

it seems to me the answer would be “zero.”
 
Given the architecture of the M series, what kind of expansion do you envision?

it seems to me the answer would be “zero.”

Not sure I understand your question but I'll try to expand on my comment. It seems to me that the AIO format is problematic in that the screens will probably outlive the usefulness of the CPU. Example, the first 5k iMac was made in 2014 and was recently deemed "vintage" by Apple. I am sure a number of those have been retired because the user needed more CPU/RAM/Storage. This means that beautiful 5k screen was at best resold, at least recycled, at worst thrown away/destroyed. If the format were eliminated and Apple made more variations of the mini which would cover the basic user through buisness class computing and had a slightly larger range of MacPro machines for professionals and content creators AND added a line of consumer monitors then the screen is separated from the "computer" and is free to live out its usefulness.

On to your comment... even if the M series chips and Apple Silicon enable a truly "pro" level of performance in the AIO format without throttling and jet like fans it still doesn't solve the screen outliving the usefulness of the other internals.
 
From the article:
”...the unavailable status confirms that there are not a limited number of the machines available for purchase...”

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I would say it suggests the exact opposite, but hey, what do I know. 🙃
 
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Not sure I understand your question but I'll try to expand on my comment. It seems to me that the AIO format is problematic in that the screens will probably outlive the usefulness of the CPU. Example, the first 5k iMac was made in 2014 and was recently deemed "vintage" by Apple. I am sure a number of those have been retired because the user needed more CPU/RAM/Storage. This means that beautiful 5k screen was at best resold, at least recycled, at worst thrown away/destroyed. If the format were eliminated and Apple made more variations of the mini which would cover the basic user through buisness class computing and had a slightly larger range of MacPro machines for professionals and content creators AND added a line of consumer monitors then the screen is separated from the "computer" and is free to live out its usefulness.

On to your comment... even if the M series chips and Apple Silicon enable a truly "pro" level of performance in the AIO format without throttling and jet like fans it still doesn't solve the screen outliving the usefulness of the other internals.
I agree with all of that.

I'm just wondering what level of expandability people are expecting from an M series Mac.

I can't see an M series desktop being anything other than an AIO or a Mac mini type machine.

RAM, SSD, CPU, GPU, BT, all on one chip.....what can you "expand?" Is Apple going to make an external GPU?
 
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Back in stock already?! Careful, they just took a normal iMac and spray painted it space grey
Honestly, this is what I did, but I used a skin and the i9-9900K and 64GB of RAM beat out the iMac Pro stock config I had at work and saved a lot of money. The primary difference was lack of 10G ethernet and UHS-II card slots (whatever, there are dongles for that), the GPU was a Vega 48 instead of Vega 56 so a little slower, and it wasn't as quiet. In normal usage I couldn't tell a big difference between them, aside from all the money I saved and the fact that I didn't get the decal perfectly aligned on the left side which still annoys me to this day as I type this so I put a photo of my kids over it. And yes, I tried fixing it and yes, it only got worse.
 
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Thats a rumored resize for the 21" iMacs, most here likely want at minimum 27", anything larger would be welcomed for the next generation of M1X based iMacs.
Maybe Apple will have a 24” and a 32” iMac.
 
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Moving forward to a Mac Pro Mini box so you can select your own monitor, add more SSD M.2 storage, upgrade to a new video card and upgrade your ram. This system was to limiting for it price. But Xeon,s and I9 processors are still in play for at least the next year and a half with a option for a M processor in a small tower box.
 
Not sure I understand your question but I'll try to expand on my comment. It seems to me that the AIO format is problematic in that the screens will probably outlive the usefulness of the CPU. Example, the first 5k iMac was made in 2014 and was recently deemed "vintage" by Apple. I am sure a number of those have been retired because the user needed more CPU/RAM/Storage. This means that beautiful 5k screen was at best resold, at least recycled, at worst thrown away/destroyed. If the format were eliminated and Apple made more variations of the mini which would cover the basic user through buisness class computing and had a slightly larger range of MacPro machines for professionals and content creators AND added a line of consumer monitors then the screen is separated from the "computer" and is free to live out its usefulness.

On to your comment... even if the M series chips and Apple Silicon enable a truly "pro" level of performance in the AIO format without throttling and jet like fans it still doesn't solve the screen outliving the usefulness of the other internals.
AIO for desktops are just a bygone era. It seems to me that most people who want AIO are using a MacBook Pro anyway.

The time is right to simplify the desktop lineup.
 
It was a great computer, and I loved the quietness of it.
Overall the best mac I have used for day to day use - it was just too limited as an AIO as my main computer [was good for 75% of my work] so it had to go.
Definitely the best Mac I owned in the last 12 years.

I really hope not (in terms of a redesigned iMac Pro), even with the improved thermals I'm not sure a "pro" level machine can or should be in an AIO format.
My tiny home studio with limited space begs to differ. My iMac Pro is thinner than my previous 4k monitor AND has a workstation grade computer built in. Not to mention that it's the only truly silent desktop Mac other than the cheese grate.
 
Had one for about a year, beautiful machine.. notice how many people have gotten rid of theirs, mostly based on lack of upgradability. Wish Apple would take notice how wasteful their designs can be.

I tried to get more power for cpu rendering by taking control of the fans but then it got super loud and I couldn’t stand to think about dust build up. When pro res finally came to Adobe on the PC I had to bail. But it sure looked great on my desktop.
I don't believe many people did get rid of iMac Pro. they might not have owned one in the first place, but overwhelmingly on here those that suggest they bought seem very pleased. I count myself as one of them.
 
I suspect in a decade the last ones sold will turn up on eBay 'new in box' for more than they cost today.
if you keep Macs long enough, this tends to happen. I have my Apple Lisa still working, and although it wouldn't realise what I paid for it in terms of inflation, it increases in value.
 
I agree with all of that.

I'm just wondering what level of expandability people are expecting from an M series Mac.

I can't see an M series desktop being anything other than an AIO or a Mac mini type machine.

RAM, SSD, CPU, GPU, BT, all on one chip.....what can you "expand?" Is Apple going to make an external GPU?
I agree with you both. The good screen in the iMac is wasted after 6-7 years when the computer is outdated. Would it be so difficult to make a base on a screen that has a slot for inserting a eplaceable Mac mini. Only one power in and when the Mac is too slow, you can switch to a new one and keep the screen. Sustainable for everything but Apple bottom line.

What can you upgrade in an ASi Mac? SSD - sure but RAM - not so sure? Third party GPU is likely not possible. Slots for co processors such as afterburner Apple GPU, Neural networks? Multi M chip solution? There are many open ends.
 
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