iMac Pro vs. Hackintosh

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I'm not tempted to go the Hackintosh route, but I did enjoy this video.


Here's what I like
Price, a fully built Hackintosh was much cheaper than the iMac Pro. If you built it yourself and were not gearing it towards A pro set up the price would be that much cheaper.

Cooling, no surprise in that the iMac Pro ran hot, but I was surprised at how cool the Hackintosh ran.

Here's what I don't like.
The person in the video purposely chose CPU options that aligned with the iMac Pro. That in of itself meant that CPU benchmarks were not going to be that useful. If it were me, I'd probably push the hardware set up a bit more, but I get what he's going after.
 

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Dave2D made this video

I have to say, I love the look of the case he's using, its pricey (at least I think it is) at 389 If I were to build a desktop (not a hackintosh), that would be the case for me.
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I still can't find Hackintosh a reliable thing.
I tried it once at OS X Lion times and there was so many things going wrong, audio, graphics and so many setup processes involved. I think it's something meant for users who want to "play with it" instead of getting work done.
I wish Apple would open macOS for third parties.
 

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I still can't find Hackintosh a reliable thing.
For me, it was stable enough, provided you didn't upgrade, i.e., Staying on El Cap and not upgrading to Sierra. I ultimately gave up in the Hackintosh and got another mac.

I played with Vmware and running macOS virtualized but I have little desire of macOS these days, windows does everything I need
 
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Dave2D made this video

I have to say, I love the look of the case he's using, its pricey (at least I think it is) at 389 If I were to build a desktop (not a hackintosh), that would be the case for me.
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It's a nice case but the price is obscene. You can get really well built, high-end cases in the $100 to $150 range. Which would be worthy of macOS:rolleyes:.


I'm not tempted to go the Hackintosh route, but I did enjoy this video.

Here's what I like
Price, a fully built Hackintosh was much cheaper than the iMac Pro. If you built it yourself and were not gearing it towards A pro set up the price would be that much cheaper.

Cooling, no surprise in that the iMac Pro ran hot, but I was surprised at how cool the Hackintosh ran.

Here's what I don't like.
The person in the video purposely chose CPU options that aligned with the iMac Pro. That in of itself meant that CPU benchmarks were not going to be that useful. If it were me, I'd probably push the hardware set up a bit more, but I get what he's going after.
I get the point of the video but it is a bit disingenuous. If you wanted to compare apples to apples, as it were. A fair comparison would be matching components as closely as possible. The video is comparing consumer parts to workstation parts. They should be using a Xeon, ECC memory and high end 5K panel. Any good quality air cooling is fine as form factors are different.

Acceptable changes would be motherboards with more expansion, large cases, better PSU, better cooling and so forth. Parts which basically add to not detract.

Now Apple has their own special SKUs for CPU. The closest match to the W-2140B is the W2-2145. They are both Intel Xeon-W processors. The W-2145 has the same cores but is faster. My guess is Apple couldn't cool the Xeon's well enough. So they got downclocked models.

This setup gives a bit better idea of the costs of the iMac Pro. If you were to DIY. Prices come from Newegg, Apple and PCPartpicker. This is comparing to the base 8-core iMac Pro.

- Xeon W-2145 $1,275
- NZXT NH-D15 $90
- ASUS WS C422 PRO/SE Motherboard $400
- ASUS ThunderboltEX 3 $90
- ASUS Arez VEGA 56 GPU $400
- Corsair RM850x PSU $120
- 32GB (4x8GB) Kingston DDR4 ECC Registered $420
- 1TB SSD (2x512GB Samsung 970 Pro) $340
- Acceptably High Quality Case $150
- Magic Mouse 2 $99
- Apple Keyboard $149
- LG Ultrafine 5K 27" $1,300
- Windows 10 Pro retail $200
- 802.11ac card and bluetooth USB about $75
Total $5,108

Arguably you get a more expandable computer with the DIY route. Apple's price doesn't seem too obscene for the components you get, if you need them. Of course the real beauty of DIY. You aren't stuck to Apple's formula. You can get equivalent performance for a lot less, especially if you don't need workstation parts. You can skimp on the excesses you don't need. You can emphasize what you do need. For the same price you could build a much faster system with more RAM, more storage and triple 4K monitors.
 
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I was just playing with imac pro configs and the top of the line imac pro was ~$13500.

See what we can get with same amount of money. Again +/- $200

Highlights.
Imacpro - 18 core cpu, 128gb ram, 4 tb ssd, 27 inch 5k monitor
Custom - 44 core cpus, 384 gb ram, 10 tb ssd, 42inch 4k monitor

We can ofcourse switch 1-2rams for more monitors

CPU: Intel - Xeon E5-2699 V4 2.2 GHz 22-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($1756.00 @ Amazon)
CPU: Intel - Xeon E5-2699 V4 2.2 GHz 22-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($1756.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H150i PRO 47.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H150i PRO 47.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste ($9.93 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - Z10PE-D8 WS SSI EEB Dual-CPU LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($531.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston - 64 GB (1 x 64 GB) Registered DDR4-2666 Memory ($834.95 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston - 64 GB (1 x 64 GB) Registered DDR4-2666 Memory ($834.95 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston - 64 GB (1 x 64 GB) Registered DDR4-2666 Memory ($834.95 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston - 64 GB (1 x 64 GB) Registered DDR4-2666 Memory ($834.95 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston - 64 GB (1 x 64 GB) Registered DDR4-2666 Memory ($834.95 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston - 64 GB (1 x 64 GB) Registered DDR4-2666 Memory ($834.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 2 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($549.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Pro 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($983.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Pro 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($983.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($498.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Luxe Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($158.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.96 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Cooler Master - MasterFan Pro 140 Air Flow RGB 53 CFM 140mm Fan ($39.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Cooler Master - MasterFan Pro 140 Air Flow RGB 53 CFM 140mm Fan ($39.89 @ OutletPC)
Fan Controller: Kingwin - FPX-003 Fan Controller
Monitor: LG - 43UD79-B 42.5" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor ($619.99 @ Walmart)
Keyboard: Microsoft - Designer Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Wireless Slim Keyboard w/Laser Mouse ($72.99 @ Adorama)
Total: $13482.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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