If they again release a new version of the current iPods instead of a new OSX widescreen iPod I'm gonna be quite annoyed.... we have been speculating about this for about two years now. C'mon!
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iMac Revision and iLife on August 7th?
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I agree about the defect-ridden LED display's. I recently was upgraded to a new MacBook Pro because of audio problems on 2 MacBooks and long trips to the Apple Store. The customer service was fantastic though. But these new LED screens were abysmal for pro machines. Whilst some people haven't had any problems, both my new MBPs developed stuck/dead pixels after the first restart on the machine, and the bottom half of the screens were clearly darker on light colours. The manager at the apple store told me that I should go for a different computer because this is the way ALL MBP's are.
So, if the new iMacs come with LED screens, which I doubt anyway but you never know, you can keep them apple. Sell them to someone else.
My new 24" iMac with wireless K&M that I got for £900 - yes only £900 from the Apple store due to the problems I've had - that will do me fine for a good few years to come. Unless it has a problem of course - not opened it yet!
I am reluctant to buy any new/revised products with new components like LED LCDs because of the problems I've encountered.
I agree about the defect-ridden LED display's. I recently was upgraded to a new MacBook Pro because of audio problems on 2 MacBooks and long trips to the Apple Store. The customer service was fantastic though. But these new LED screens were abysmal for pro machines. Whilst some people haven't had any problems, both my new MBPs developed stuck/dead pixels after the first restart on the machine, and the bottom half of the screens were clearly darker on light colours. The manager at the apple store told me that I should go for a different computer because this is the way ALL MBP's are.
So, if the new iMacs come with LED screens, which I doubt anyway but you never know, you can keep them apple. Sell them to someone else.
My new 24" iMac with wireless K&M that I got for £900 - yes only £900 from the Apple store due to the problems I've had - that will do me fine for a good few years to come. Unless it has a problem of course - not opened it yet!
I am reluctant to buy any new/revised products with new components like LED LCDs because of the problems I've encountered.
I poked around the ACD page at the Apple store and saw this:
This completely convinces me that the new iMacs will be aluminum. It seems to be the most advantageous color out there for a display according to apple!
This completely convinces me that the new iMacs will be aluminum. It seems to be the most advantageous color out there for a display according to apple!
I thought a white surround enhanced the vibrancy of colours, whereas grey has the opposite effect and makes white actually take on a slight grey tinge.
http://www.mp3buzz.net/index.php/2006/03/06/video-of-6th-gen-ipod/
this site has a couple videos from youtube of widescreen/touchscreen ipods. Most look fake but a couple look like they may actually be the real thing.. NOTE THE "MAY"... just something to look into
this site has a couple videos from youtube of widescreen/touchscreen ipods. Most look fake but a couple look like they may actually be the real thing.. NOTE THE "MAY"... just something to look into
what sense would that make
There are 177 posts at this point and im not going to read ALL of them to see if im repeating myself. So here it goes...
Ever since Apple announced the iPhone there have been a number of people who wanted to wait and see if the phone would be as revolutionary as they said it would. Some people have been on the fence about getting a new ipod or not (im in that category). I understand the iPod is the device that has changed how people listen to music and the biggest selling product that comes out of apple, but what sense would it make to release the iPod in august, just shy of two months with the iPhone on the market. Wouldnt it make more sense that apple would ride the wave of the iPhone for as long as possible before releasing a new ipod? Especially if the new iPod is widescreen and runs OS X. If that were the case anyone that would be contemplating the iphone because of the widescreen feature would surely get an ipod. No, I think apple is going to wait till november, either early on or right around thanksgiving, just in time for christmas shopping season. More people would be willing to pay $250 for a new ipod thats widescreen than $499 for a phone that would force the person to pay at least $59 dollars a month. thats just what I think. . .
There are 177 posts at this point and im not going to read ALL of them to see if im repeating myself. So here it goes...
Ever since Apple announced the iPhone there have been a number of people who wanted to wait and see if the phone would be as revolutionary as they said it would. Some people have been on the fence about getting a new ipod or not (im in that category). I understand the iPod is the device that has changed how people listen to music and the biggest selling product that comes out of apple, but what sense would it make to release the iPod in august, just shy of two months with the iPhone on the market. Wouldnt it make more sense that apple would ride the wave of the iPhone for as long as possible before releasing a new ipod? Especially if the new iPod is widescreen and runs OS X. If that were the case anyone that would be contemplating the iphone because of the widescreen feature would surely get an ipod. No, I think apple is going to wait till november, either early on or right around thanksgiving, just in time for christmas shopping season. More people would be willing to pay $250 for a new ipod thats widescreen than $499 for a phone that would force the person to pay at least $59 dollars a month. thats just what I think. . .
Just hope they are still keeping the Mac Mini alive.I don't really think the iPod is coming so soon. It'll be probably out for Christmas sales. Last year Nano and Shuffle dominated that period. This time the focus should be on the Wide iPod, while the Nano n Shuffle will be only updates with bigger drive.
All I want to see is an iMac Special Edition. An edition for gamers..
With the latest 'so called-Extreme' processors and the greatest graphics cards, an iMac would be an ultimate choice for every gamer who wants to play their games on a decent operating system and wanna see a cool looking machine in their homes. iMac SE can also be black anodized aluminum.
And for the ones thinking about heat and fan noise and etc., I don't think 15 year olds would care about a little more fan noise while wandering Karazhan* (World of Warcraft instance)
iMac is already death-silent, PCers use machines waaaay to louder..
Virtual Click-wheel for Video iPod, Traditional Click-wheel for nano
First of all, I haven't had enough time to read all the threads.
So my guess about the iPod is that the 6G Video iPod will be full-screen with a virtual click-wheel (indeed, I remember have seen fake picts). This means taking advantage of the multi-touch technology, but keeping the ICONIC wheel for iPods. Also, this way, there will be enough differences (product speaking) with the iPhone.
The traditional click wheel will remain in the iPod nano, which could be shortened in lenght (since it is NOT video).
First of all, I haven't had enough time to read all the threads.
So my guess about the iPod is that the 6G Video iPod will be full-screen with a virtual click-wheel (indeed, I remember have seen fake picts). This means taking advantage of the multi-touch technology, but keeping the ICONIC wheel for iPods. Also, this way, there will be enough differences (product speaking) with the iPhone.
The traditional click wheel will remain in the iPod nano, which could be shortened in lenght (since it is NOT video).
It's obvious that an OS X based iPod would benefit from things like Cover Flow and other animations. Not everything revolves around touch screens.
Yeah, so? That still doesn't rid the fact that a 30+ GB iPod with touch controls would eat away sales from iPhone.
If Apple doesn't release a Virtual Clickwheel system with multitouch on the new iPods there's going to be a mass suicide on MR
Imo the new iPod will be touchscreen.
But the iMac being named "iMac Special Edition" is completely UN-APPLE
It looks something out of a M$ product box.. blarghh, special edition... LOL
Imo the new iPod will be touchscreen.
But the iMac being named "iMac Special Edition" is completely UN-APPLE
It looks something out of a M$ product box.. blarghh, special edition... LOL
Man, I really want an improved and more muscular iMac. I've got my fingers crossed. I'm a lot more interested in the "guts" of the iMac than how it looks on the outside - I actually really like the look of the current iMac (go figure). As you can likely guess, I come from the PC world and I'm switching to Mac when Leopard comes out. Thing is, I can't afford a Mac Pro (and besides it looks too much like my PC), so I'm hoping for a really honkin' iMac. Hey, I can dream can't I?
Rich
). As you can likely guess, I come from the PC world and I'm switching to Mac when Leopard comes out. Thing is, I can't afford a Mac Pro (and besides it looks too much like my PC), so I'm hoping for a really honkin' iMac. Hey, I can dream can't I?Rich
Possible names for the "new" iPod
Long time lurker, first time poster. I don't typically make posts like this on boards that I frequent, but I couldn't help this one. Some are better than others. This was inspired by the squatty iPod mockup that has been posted as a possible new iPod Video.
1. miniMePod
2. shortPod
3. iSquat
4. iStout
5. iSquint
6. iPod Video for stumpy fingers
7. iPout
8. iNeedToLooseWeight
9. iWontBuy
10. iCouldntCareLess
11. iRumor
12. iPod VideHo
13. iStump
14. iSquared
15. iNapolean Video
16. True Crampeo iPod
17. iWontFit
18. iNeedNewAccessories
Long time lurker, first time poster. I don't typically make posts like this on boards that I frequent, but I couldn't help this one. Some are better than others. This was inspired by the squatty iPod mockup that has been posted as a possible new iPod Video.
1. miniMePod
2. shortPod
3. iSquat
4. iStout
5. iSquint
6. iPod Video for stumpy fingers
7. iPout
8. iNeedToLooseWeight
9. iWontBuy
10. iCouldntCareLess
11. iRumor
12. iPod VideHo
13. iStump
14. iSquared
15. iNapolean Video
16. True Crampeo iPod
17. iWontFit
18. iNeedNewAccessories
Well personally, I am looking forward to the new iPods most because I actually plan on getting one of those. My 15GB 3rd gen is getting a little outdated
Also, I want to see the new iMacs just out of curiosity. I have been hearing so much about them for awhile, and although I have no plans on buying one (one more year until college), I am still curious to see what apple can whip up.
That mock-up is just a squished video iPod. I'd expect it won't be ugly. But otherwise, beside perhaps 40GB storage in the low-end capacity, thinner model, the wider screen to support wide-screen content, this makes sense to me. I've spent quite a bit of time playing with the iPhone interface, and it's quite cool, but for large music and/or video collection -- you know, the kind you'd store on a full-size iPod the click-wheel remains *leagues* ahead of the multi-touch interface. In fact, this would give me some real faith in Apple's plan for future consumer electronics devices: use the best interface, not the newest and therefore at least temporarily the most gee-whiz. Also, the iPhone gets smudgy, dirty, greasy -- which we're used to with mobile phone screens -- and contrary to what some reviewers have said, you do notice. Makes more sense to have a video iPod that doesn't require you touch the screen and for which you can use a case that protects (completely covers) the screen.
Only problem is, although I use TV video out on my iPod to watch video from my iPod when we're away -- Apple TV at home -- I don't like to watch video on the small screen much at all. Bigger and wider by the degree possible on an iPod won't improve that. But I've been wanting a new iPod just because I want a new iPod; the battery probably has *at least* another 18 months of full service life in it and because of the way I use mine, that screen change isn't going to be enough to make me buy a new one. Although, *not* feeling the compulsion to buy something new with a fair-size chunk of cash all in one place is not necessarily a bad thing.
But the iMac being named "iMac Special Edition" is completely UN-APPLE
It looks something out of a M$ product box.. blarghh, special edition... LOL
Actually I dont care what the name is.. All I wanted to say is that iMac currently is/was not a good choice for the gamer community. iMac SE (or whatever the name is) should equip the best available options like Radeon X2900XT or Nvidia 8800 with desktop class processors instead of mobiles...
Simultaneous color contrast
Which is exactly the problem.
To artists, this optical effect is known as Simultaneous Color Contrast wherein dark objects, when surrounded by white appear lighter in color and light objects when surrounded by black appear darker. That's why, in a gallery the walls should be painted a 5th value or neutral-value grey so the viewers perception of the painting is accurate. What surrounds the form, influences our perception of the form.
Surrounding a computer screen in white plastic would have a similar effect on your perception of color. A neutral value, along the lines of the Mac Pro enclosures, would be better suited for framing the image on an iMac screen.
Which is exactly the problem.
To artists, this optical effect is known as Simultaneous Color Contrast wherein dark objects, when surrounded by white appear lighter in color and light objects when surrounded by black appear darker. That's why, in a gallery the walls should be painted a 5th value or neutral-value grey so the viewers perception of the painting is accurate. What surrounds the form, influences our perception of the form.
Surrounding a computer screen in white plastic would have a similar effect on your perception of color. A neutral value, along the lines of the Mac Pro enclosures, would be better suited for framing the image on an iMac screen.
You aren't.
Thousands have already specualted this, and if they do this form factor it won't have the wheel displayed on it.
It will have the same audio and video controls of the iPhone.
imac updates have been comming longer than jenna jameson
Now that may be the naughtiest thing I've heard on this forum.. lol
But back on topic, I have been dying for the new iMac to come out.. August
7th... I can only hope and pray its true..
-Terry
Before seeing and owning the iPhone, I'd totally agree with you that a virtual click-wheel was the next step. Hey, it seemed logical at the time. However, Apple, in typical fashion, was thinking well beyond even their current success and working toward the multi-touch interface.
After using the iPod on the iPhone for several weeks now, I have begun to dislike using my older click-wheel based iPods. They're just so slow and clunky in accessing music compared to the iPhone. Spinning your thumb around in a circle to go through thousands of songs is slow and inaccurate. Why use an intermediary to manipulate objects when you can manipulate objects themselves. Whether its list view, album view, or cover-flow, finding and playing songs is fast and amazingly fun.
Each person that I let play with my phone is just amazed at the ease of use and the "connection" that you have with finding music. Again, it's just FUN! Every time it ends with "I HAVE to get one of these". Sure the iPod has been a success because it's a good product/system, but it has never had the "wow" factor of the multi-touch interface. Strip off the phone, add some serious capacity, and the new iPod is going to blow-away its previous sales success.
If you haven't lived with the iPhone and iPod both, you just can't fully appreciate the interface enough to see that the click-wheel is yesterday's success. I just can't see Apple not using this amazing new interface wherever they can.
Now, let's see that new iMac!
"It will", "it wont", excuse but.. do you work for Apple? How can you say that "It will have the same audio and video controls of the iPhone" for sure? :O Your guess is as good as the next poster's.
Yeah mate, I know, I was just messing with you.
Anyway, I created a thread about 2 weeks ago about the possibility of Apple splitting the iMac category into two.
The iMac and the iMac Pro.
Now, be honest! Doesn't "iMac Pro" sound better than "iMac SE"? Eheheh.
I could see that.
I currently use a PowerMac as my primary workstation, but it's far more power than I really need. However, the current mobile based iMac is a bit underpowered for me. I'd like to go full Intel, but I don't want to jump into another underutilized and high-priced Mac Pro. So, an iMac Pro would be perfect. Apple seems to be pretty good at identifying markets. Surely they know that there are plenty of us wanting something "in between".
The multi-touch interface is horrible at scrolling through long lists. Short lists, it's great; superior to the click-wheel. I mean, to each his own, but I've used a friend's extensively and it's one of the major reasons I waffled and probably won't buy one. For a small amount of music on a 4GB or 8GB, sure. But even with a lot of music on his 8GB model, it was a pain; I couldn't wait to get back to the easy, fast scrolling of the click-wheel.
And how can you compare, really? Even if you devote all the usable space on an 8GB to music, it can barely hold the number of songs as my 30GB video iPod can hold albums. I think it's a great interface for the iPhone. I think the mouse is a great interface for a computer, but I wouldn't want to use it to control a toaster.
I think Apple will move your direction. I don't see any reason why Apple would use a virtual click wheel for an iPod widescreen when it doesn't use one for the iPhone. Apple is all about unifying the look, feel and user experience of its products up and down the line, and they will want the iPod to have a very similar user experience to the iPhone.
There's definitely a possibility of a widescreen iPod cannibalizing the iPhone market, but Apple did a fantastic job of differentiating the iPod mini/nano from the iPod on storage, physical size and price. I think they'll distinguish the iPhone from the iPod on phone functionality (iPhone has it; iPod doesn't), storage (iPod will be much larger), battery life (iPod will have longer battery life), size (iPod will be flatter and lighter) and price (iPod will be cheaper).
Those differences should be enough to clearly define separate markets.
Welllll if you don't want to bother your self to read the posts why the hell are you even bothering to waste our time putting your 2 cents in. Just read the posts like every one else who cares about this site. Do you really think you are so much more important than all the other people on Mac rumors that read all the posts?
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