iMac...Spinning Wheel

Discussion in 'iMac' started by dlp600, Mar 1, 2019.

  1. dlp600 macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2019
    Location:
    Chatsworth, CA
    #1
    My iMac Model 18,3 has never seemed to perform that well. I set it up in January 2018. I get the spinning wheel too frequently in my opinion. The performance has underwhelmed me since the start. I work in Illustrator and Photoshop mostly. Will upgrading the ram make a difference? Thanks in advance.
     
  2. DeltaMac macrumors G3

    DeltaMac

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2003
    Location:
    Delaware
    #2
    Do you have a fusion drive?
    Or, the much-faster SSD flash storage?

    How much RAM do you have now?
     
  3. dlp600 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2019
    Location:
    Chatsworth, CA
    #3
    8GB. Not sure which drive. My boss told me when he ordered it he got the better drive. How can I tell?
     
  4. nambuccaheadsau macrumors 68000

    nambuccaheadsau

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2007
    Location:
    Nambucca Heads Australia
    #4
    About this Mac (Apple System Profiler) and see what is reported under System Report > SATA SATA Express.
     
  5. dlp600 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2019
    Location:
    Chatsworth, CA
    #5
    APPLE HDD ST1000DM003:

    Capacity: 1 TB (1,000,204,886,016 bytes)
    Model: APPLE HDD ST1000DM003
    Revision: AQ04
    Serial Number: Z4YFDB39
    Native Command Queuing: Yes
    Queue Depth: 32
    Removable Media: No
    Detachable Drive: No
    BSD Name: disk0
    Rotational Rate: 7200
    Medium Type: Rotational
    Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)
    S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified
    Volumes:
    EFI:
    Capacity: 209.7 MB (209,715,200 bytes)
    File System: MS-DOS FAT32
    BSD Name: disk0s1
    Content: EFI
    Volume UUID: 0E239BC6-F960-3107-89CF-1C97F78BB46B
    disk0s2:
    Capacity: 1 TB (999,995,129,856 bytes)
    BSD Name: disk0s2
    Content: Apple_APFS
     
  6. nambuccaheadsau macrumors 68000

    nambuccaheadsau

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2007
    Location:
    Nambucca Heads Australia
    #6
    As this says 'Rotational' it may be a 1TB Fusion Drive model with the miserable 32GB PCI-e Blade Drive. This causes the 1TB platter drive to be used, and they are as slow as a wet week. If this is the case the only cure would be either cracking it open and replacing the Blade Drive with a 256 or 512GB drive, or using an SSD it an external USB3 caddy as the boot drive.
     
  7. DeltaMac macrumors G3

    DeltaMac

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2003
    Location:
    Delaware
    #7
    Sounds like your boss misled you. :cool:
    The 1TB fusion drive is the stock config, and not a good fit for Photoshop, etc.
     
  8. nambuccaheadsau macrumors 68000

    nambuccaheadsau

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2007
    Location:
    Nambucca Heads Australia
  9. Fishrrman, Mar 2, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2019

    Fishrrman macrumors P6

    Fishrrman

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    #9
    A RAM upgrade may help a little with Adobe products, but that's not the real "cause for the slowdown".

    The problem is you have a platter-based hard drive inside.
    With any of the more recent versions of the Mac OS, that equates to = SLOW.

    You have two choices to fix the problem:
    1. Open it up and put an SSD inside. This can be a risky job unless you have the skill and confidence to do it.
    or
    2. Buy an EXTERNAL USB3 SSD, plug it in, and set it up to be the boot drive. This will yield about 85% of the speed the same drive would give you if it was installed internally. That's very good, and "going external" is a fast and easy way to get A LOT MORE speed out of the iMac.

    Something like this would do the job and do it right:
    https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-1TB-...keywords=sandisk+extreme+usb+3+portable+drive
    Either a 1tb or 512gb would be fine, depending on your budget.

    If you get a 1tb SSD, you could use CarbonCopyCloner to just "clone over" your internal OS install to the external SSD. CCC is FREE to download and use for the first 30 days, so this won't cost you. (but CCC is the best backup app there is, bar none, worth registering).
     
  10. drgrafix macrumors regular

    drgrafix

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2008
    Location:
    New England
    #10
    Pardon me for jumping in with a question, but I'm curious about that external SSD solution or alternate ones. I have a really old late 2007 24" iMac that is in mint condition, but I occasionally see the spinning ball and sometimes I get freeze-ups requiring a reboot. I have a 500 GB HDD and about 130 GB free. Adding an external SSD as my boot drive sounds like maybe it'd make this puppy run a little better... would it?

    Wondering if there's a way to clone a SSD drive from my current root HDD? If I eliminated a ton of pictures and other stuff I might be able to get everything on a 250GB SSD... maybe. Or do I start from scratch and reload all my old software?
     
  11. Fishrrman macrumors P6

    Fishrrman

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    #11
    drgrafix wrote:
    "I have a really old late 2007 24" iMac that is in mint condition, but I occasionally see the spinning ball and sometimes I get freeze-ups requiring a reboot. I have a 500 GB HDD and about 130 GB free. Adding an external SSD as my boot drive sounds like maybe it'd make this puppy run a little better... would it?"

    NO. It won't really help you, because you don't have any way to connect a USB3 external drive that would give you anywhere near the speed that an SSD can deliver.

    What you really need is a newer, faster Mac.
    There's really no way around that.
     
  12. dlp600 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2019
    Location:
    Chatsworth, CA
    #12

    Thanks I will get an external USB.
     
  13. dlp600 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2019
    Location:
    Chatsworth, CA
    #13
    I got the SanDisk Extreme and used CarbonCopyCloner to duplicate startup disk. It crashed about every 5 minutes until I rebooted with OG drove. Returned the drive and ordered a Samsung...Hope that fixes it. The speed was noticeably faster.
     
  14. xgman macrumors 601

    xgman

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2007
    #14
    An external bootable USB3 SSD isn't a bad solution at this point.
     

Share This Page

13 March 1, 2019