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Originally posted by orthodoc
Regarding airport extreme: since you can't buy the previous airport base station on apple's website, I would assume that all new hardware will include airport extreme capabilities. If the new iMacs don't have AE, I will be shocked. :cool:

Actually, new AirPort Extreme Base Stations support old cards.:)
 
Originally posted by MacKid


Actually, new AirPort Extreme Base Stations support old cards.:)

You are correct, but I would still be surprised if all new hardware wasn't capable of using this technology. I would hate to buy an airport base station and not be able to use the 54 mbs simply because Apple chose to limit AE to the new powerbooks. If this was the case, Apple should still give people the option to buy the previous airport base station for $149.

Just a thought.
 
In my opinion. . .

Originally posted by orthodoc


You are correct, but I would still be surprised if all new hardware wasn't capable of using this technology. I would hate to buy an airport base station and not be able to use the 54 mbs simply because Apple chose to limit AE to the new powerbooks. If this was the case, Apple should still give people the option to buy the previous airport base station for $149.

Just a thought.

I just think that Apple is trying to literally stay ahead of the curve, as more people are choosing broadband over dial-up, and 11mbps just wouldn't cut it.
 
The patriot iMac

I doubt Apple would be so stupid as to grant your wish and start painting American flags on their computers. Do you realize how many people would be repulsed by the idea? Not only would it be tacky, but it would also cannibalize their sales in overseas markets at a time when the computer industry is not having much luck selling. Call me "Anti-American" or whatever, I would not like to see such blatant nationalism become the latest gimmick used to sell computers.

Besides, the smooth white aesthetics of Apple's iMacs makes them look neutral.:mad:
 
They won't be painting the American flag on their computers, but even if they did, do you really think they'd sell American flag computers in places other than America? Nah. You might even be able to buy one with the Australian flag! :)
 
No disrespect but. . .

Originally posted by Sol
I doubt Apple would be so stupid as to grant your wish and start painting American flags on their computers. Do you realize how many people would be repulsed by the idea? Not only would it be tacky, but it would also cannibalize their sales in overseas markets at a time when the computer industry is not having much luck selling. Call me "Anti-American" or whatever, I would not like to see such blatant nationalism become the latest gimmick used to sell computers.

Besides, the smooth white aesthetics of Apple's iMacs makes them look neutral.:mad:

Do you realize how generally ignorant you sounded when you wrote that? First of all, the guy just spoke his mind, second of all, he said he neve expected to see them (and I must agree, I think nobody will;) ) but he really wasn't serious. . .:eek:
 
If Apple could go from 1.25ghz G4 speed to enough speed to beat any PC at any speed, would they give us a speed bump that large in one generation? If the answer is no, then the iMac wont be getting dual processors for a veeerrry long time. Because they just dont care as much about speed as their customers do.
As it is, it doesnt look like we will get to 2ghz by the end of the year. And I dont expect a 1ghz iMac either. I do expect alot of innovation on everything but processor speed this year.
 
So, is the consensus that Apple will introduce the new iMac line-up during the week of Jan. 20th?

Anyone from Apple have insights into this - so I can plan to purchase an imac.

I've been waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting.. tap tap tap

I can't imagine Apple moving many of the iMacs now, since - and I'm guessing here - that anyone that is considering a purchase is going to wait until the new ones come out. Then Apple will be unloading the older imacs at cheap prices (good for the students, 2nd computers, etc.) - and also introduce the new ones (which I want).

With their share of market less than Gateway (which is gonna tank), Apple can't afford to not having product moving, particularly for one of their high profile computers.

People agree? Any Apple moles here that agree?

Btw, it seems no one ever identifies themselves as working for Apple on here....... but I do wish that someone who is truly in the know would confirm when the new iMacs will be released. I'm willing to wait until mid-Feb if I have too, but after that - I'll say f*** it and stay with PCs. The Mac world may be better overall, but at least in the PC world, the computers are cheap enough and easy to upgrade.

Apple are you listening?

I'm starting to get pissed.... and I haven't switched yet. All I'm asking is to make me loyal to you!!!
 
iMac roleout timing

Apple has been doing a very good job staying in the press. For a small part of the computer world they get a lot of attention. to keep it up I'm sure they are spacing their product anouncements. My problem with the Jan 20th date is that it is so soon after MacWorld. Apple gave the reporters a lot to chew on at the show and I don't think the press is hurting for Apple stories. My prediction is that if the new iMac has a lot going for it, then they won't release it until mid Feb. I think until then the new software and power books will keep the press busy. If the update is minor, then it may come sooner and more quitely. Peace-MOM
 
Originally posted by SwitchHitter
So, is the consensus that Apple will introduce the new iMac line-up during the week of Jan. 20th?

Anyone from Apple have insights into this - so I can plan to purchase an imac.

I've been waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting.. tap tap tap

I'm willing to wait until mid-Feb if I have too,

First off...I don't work at Apple. Heck, there isn't an Apple store within a 3.5-4 hour drive of here. (I'm smack dab between the NC and GA stores) So anything I say is PURE speculation .... Personally I think you'll see a new iMac upgrade by mid february. I think of all the updates thats a safe bet. Here's what's been released and when....(List includes last 2 updates)

PowerBooks -
November 06, 2002
January 07, 2003

iBooks -
May 20, 2002
November 06, 2002

Powermacs
January 28, 2002 (QS)
August 13, 2002

eMacs -
n/a
August 13, 2002

iMacs -
January 7, 2002 (Intro of FP)
July 17, 2002 (17" FP)

Ok so what we are looking at is a bumb of some kind every 6 months or so. Based on this info I think we'll see a new iMac by this February. You might want to wait until the end of February just in case though based on the buzz I don't think you'll have to.

(Oh, in case I've messed up on something please forgive me it's late!)
 
Re: iMac roleout timing

Originally posted by MOM
Apple has been doing a very good job staying in the press. For a small part of the computer world they get a lot of attention. to keep it up I'm sure they are spacing their product anouncements. My problem with the Jan 20th date is that it is so soon after MacWorld. Apple gave the reporters a lot to chew on at the show and I don't think the press is hurting for Apple stories. My prediction is that if the new iMac has a lot going for it, then they won't release it until mid Feb. I think until then the new software and power books will keep the press busy. If the update is minor, then it may come sooner and more quitely. Peace-MOM

Yeah, but they might see the need to put on a "good face" after their 1Q loss. They got a lot of press for the 17" and 12" PBs but they're also getting a lot of press about their stock and net losses. They might see the need to get a "booster shot" of good press.
 
if apple really made wireless speakers, or allowed you to hook up more than two speakers, they'd have to make their dvd player deal with 5.1, can you imagine it, after all this time...
 
Originally posted by Centris 650


Uh, yeah it can. 2 Words..." Flower Power" :p

I must agree. As long as they don't come out with iMacs with Jaguar Fur skins, I'll be okay.:D
 
Originally posted by SwitchHitter
Anyone from Apple have insights into this - so I can plan to purchase an imac.

Patience, patience.

A few things you should know about Apple:

1) Apple is a dirty whore that'll take all your money, break your heart and leave you begging for more.

2) Very few people at Apple actually know when new products will be released or what they'll be. They're very good at keeping their own employees in the dark up to the date a public announcement is made.

3) Someone would have to be very stupid to endanger their job for the sake of a rumor site.

Just look at the pre-MacWorld rumors. Video iPod, anyone?

-Nate
 
Re: In my opinion. . .

Originally posted by MacKid


I just think that Apple is trying to literally stay ahead of the curve, as more people are choosing broadband over dial-up, and 11mbps just wouldn't cut it.

Uhm, DSL & Cable modems connect with 10baseT ethernet cords. Thats less bandwith than Airport, correct? The "Highest level" of business class DSL is only 1Mbps here I think. Even having multiple users at the same time won't crows airport. Because they all share the same cable/dsl connection.

Airport Extreme is not a "pro" feature. (Its really just a marketing mistake that makes it seem so. Because when they drop regular airport, whose gonna know whats so extreme about it?) How ever, they're probably instituting it for professional applications sake. File transfers and video conferencing over the wireless LAN type stuff.

People really won't need it at their homes but its cheaper to go standard across the board and its going to be the new technology. Like Apple had to go to DDR ram regardless because if all your systems used 10 year old technology....oh, bad example.


-Truth Hertz
 
Re: Re: In my opinion. . .

Originally posted by MhzDoesMatter


Uhm, DSL & Cable modems connect with 10baseT ethernet cords. Thats less bandwith than Airport, correct? The "Highest level" of business class DSL is only 1Mbps here I think. Even having multiple users at the same time won't crows airport. Because they all share the same cable/dsl connection.

Airport Extreme is not a "pro" feature. (Its really just a marketing mistake that makes it seem so. Because when they drop regular airport, whose gonna know whats so extreme about it?) How ever, they're probably instituting it for professional applications sake. File transfers and video conferencing over the wireless LAN type stuff.

People really won't need it at their homes but its cheaper to go standard across the board and its going to be the new technology. Like Apple had to go to DDR ram regardless because if all your systems used 10 year old technology....oh, bad example.


-Truth Hertz

Sorry, I was getting kbps confused with mbps, however, there have been many times when I'm trying to move a bunch of iTunes music or fresh apps from MacAddict from my iMac to iBook when 11mbps ends up being about 60 seconds for 6MB, so I think this will be a very welcome improvement.

Just an opinion.:D :cool:
 
"Uhm, DSL & Cable modems connect with 10baseT ethernet cords. Thats less bandwith than Airport, correct? The "Highest level" of business class DSL is only 1Mbps here I think. Even having multiple users at the same time won't crows airport. Because they all share the same cable/dsl connection."

Not mine. The bottleneck in my home network is the router box. When I plug my iMac straight into the cable modem, Network Utility shows a change in the connection speed from 10Mbps to 100Mbps.

(tig)
 
I hope I'm not repeating something already said, this is a very long thread, and I've only read the last page worth of posts.

LoopRumors's predictions are wrong. I've seen a lot of people talking about Airport Extreme, and it would be insane to not equip all new models with it.

But in reality here, Apple has a whole lot of new technology to dump on to their desktop machines. There's Airport Extreme, Firewire 800, USB 2.0 (I think Apple will adopt it), Bluetooth, Ambient light sensors (for screens and such, although a backlit bluetooth keyboard would be unnecessarily cool), and faster processors (GOBI G3s, 1 GHz G4s, etc.). This makes it harder to speculate what we'll see on the next machines.

I think Airport Extreme, faster G4s, and Bluetooth are sure-things for the next iMacs. The real question (in my mind, at least) is about Firewire and USB.
Firewire 800 can't yet replace Firewire 400, and it isn't even on the 12" AlBook. Apple might choose USB 2.0, a PC standard of slight concern (which is enough to get on board with it), over the new Firewire.

Just my two cents. ;)
 
Originally posted by The Grimace
"Uhm, DSL & Cable modems connect with 10baseT ethernet cords. Thats less bandwith than Airport, correct? The "Highest level" of business class DSL is only 1Mbps here I think. Even having multiple users at the same time won't crows airport. Because they all share the same cable/dsl connection."

Not mine. The bottleneck in my home network is the router box. When I plug my iMac straight into the cable modem, Network Utility shows a change in the connection speed from 10Mbps to 100Mbps.

(tig)

That just means that your cable modem has a 100 Mbps Ethernet port, vs your router's 10 Mbps Ethernet ports. This in no way means, however, that you have a 100Mbps connection to the internet. If you want to test your bandwith, a good web-based test is at:
http://webservices.cnet.com/Bandwidth/

For example, I did that test right now and got about 1.2 Mbps, which is in line with that I've seen with other bandwidth test tools. (I'm currently connected via Airport to a D-Link Wi-Fi router connected to my cable modem).
 
iMac with a twist

In addition of higher buss speed, there is a significant chance that the next round of iMacs will allow the user to twist the screen from horizontal to vertial orientation. This seems like a no-brainer to me given the perfect balance of the iMac display arm. I have been going vertical for 15 years on my Macs. On displays that have a limited resolution as you find on iMacs, viewing documents vertically is a much better way to read docs and browse the web. I would really like to see this feature in iMacs, and I think that it would be a big marketing bullet point.

It is also a key aspect of tablet/notebook hybrids. If Apple comes out with a PowerTablet, I suspect that it will come with keyboard so that it can be used like a regular powerbook, but have the added ability to detach/wrap around the screen and put it into a vertical orientation. Another feature I would like to see. Imagine having Airport at home, and reading the New York times vertically on you PowerTablet while the hamock in the back yard. But I digress....
 
Re: iMac with a twist

Originally posted by jgp
In addition of higher buss speed, there is a significant chance that the next round of iMacs will allow the user to twist the screen from horizontal to vertial orientation. This seems like a no-brainer to me given the perfect balance of the iMac display arm. I have been going vertical for 15 years on my Macs. On displays that have a limited resolution as you find on iMacs, viewing documents vertically is a much better way to read docs and browse the web. I would really like to see this feature in iMacs, and I think that it would be a big marketing bullet point.

It is also a key aspect of tablet/notebook hybrids. If Apple comes out with a PowerTablet, I suspect that it will come with keyboard so that it can be used like a regular powerbook, but have the added ability to detach/wrap around the screen and put it into a vertical orientation. Another feature I would like to see. Imagine having Airport at home, and reading the New York times vertically on you PowerTablet while the hamock in the back yard. But I digress....

I think if Apple comes out with a tablet, it probably won't be a combo-laptop, because a lot of people on the PC side have been complaining after they buy a hybrid tablet that when they try to use it, it's way to heavy to use in one hand, to hot to have on your lap, and too thick to actually be considered a "tablet".

But I love the idea of a flippable iMac!!!:D :cool:
 
the ambient light sensor thingy, is that what the new 17" AlBook has with regard to automatic screen brightness correction, or is it to do with the new copyright apple filed where the case could change color?
 
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