IMAP for Gmail Petition to enable "push" Gmail!

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by loudog40, Jul 2, 2007.

  1. loudog40 macrumors member

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    That would be worth paying for if it was reasonable (few bucks a month)
     
  4. opticalserenity macrumors 6502a

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    Paying? I can't imagine google wants Yahoo to outdo them.
     
  5. MovieCutter macrumors 68040

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    Screw GMail...why the FRACK isn't .Mac push mail. I pay $100/year for .Mac but get yahoo for free...WTF MATE!!!???
     
  6. brbubba macrumors 6502

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    Since when has IMAP been considered "push" mail? I can see the iPhone just supporting IMAP syncing every 15 mins and not having it implemented for POP3, but this is hardly google's problem. Google's lack of complete POP3 protocols has been a notorious problem for a while, something that they don't intend to fix anytime soon. If you really want an IMAP account just have gmail forward all your mail to an IMAP account somewhere else.
     
  7. Project macrumors 68020

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    I would gladly pay for IMAP or push email from GMail.
     
  8. Karpfish macrumors 6502a

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    I thought it WAS push, it is on my Blackberry.....?
     
  9. mleary macrumors regular

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    IMAP can push mail as long as the server supports the idle extension. The rest of your post is incoherent.
     
  10. loudog40 thread starter macrumors member

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    I'd like to be able to use the Gmail web-interface when I'm at my desk but also read/send email from my phone when I'm out and about. It's my understanding that POP simply forwards the email. So when I read a message on my phone, it still shows up as unread when I log into www.gmail.com (and vice-versa).

    IMAP is more central in nature than POP. When you delete or read a message in your email client, the server is updated. This provides consistent state across all email clients for the same account. Having "push" email is really just a nice advantage of IMAP (IDLE).
     
  11. Laslo Panaflex macrumors 65816

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    Blackberry routes all your emails through their servers, effectively making pretty much any email account a push account. This is the core feature of blackberrys.
     
  12. /dev/toaster macrumors 68020

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    Gmail IMAP push would be really nice to have, I hope they come out with it soon.
     
  13. diisles macrumors newbie

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    forward to yahoo

    Im sure this has been mentioned but in case it hasnt. What I do is i forward all my other email (gmail) to my yahoo account. THus all my mail is pushed to my iphone without me having to manually check it at timed intervals. This way everyone with an iphone can have their gmail pushed to their phone. The best part about it is unlike other services (blackberry, or microsoft exchange) its freeeeeeeee!!!!!!!! Honestly for apples first go around with the cell phone market this is a sweet device!!! Just imagine with a couple software upgrades thru itunes how great it will be!!! Then imagine version 2 next year!!!!! :)
     
  14. janey macrumors 603

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    push imap is not the same thing as idle.
     
  15. loudog40 thread starter macrumors member

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    This thread has gotten almost 300 views but only 35 diggs!?!

    C'mon guys, digg this up so Google knows what we want!
     
  16. SmartAlx macrumors newbie

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    Doesn't push with gmail kind of defeat the purpose of gmail? Until the iPhone (or any other portable device) can manage tags and read the emails and tags the way the gmail inside the browser does, it's a waste of time.

    That is unless you are using gmail the way you would use Yahoo, which begs the question, "why are you using gmail anyway?"
     
  17. marksman macrumors 603

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    I would like to see the IMAP idle function work.

    I don't care that much for push mail to be honest. I would rather have IM functionality in the phone than push mail. As I can ascertain that is the main reason why people want push so they can simulate instant messaging.

    If they add it to gmail that would be great.
     
  18. Lougle macrumors member

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    I would pay for this feature. Please Google!!! Please!
     
  19. aaarrrgggh macrumors regular

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    miserable gmail support on iphone

    I'm really disappointed with google's support on the iphone. I actually had to sign up for a yahoo account today to tide me through. We host our company's email with them, and had planned to go to premium service... But gmail just doesn't function at all on the iPhone.

    I guess we will have to move the mail server over to one of our own boxes. Putty.
     
  20. janey macrumors 603

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    People have complained about lack of any sort of email protocol, and Google gave us a halfassed implementation of POP for gmail. People have also been complaining about lack of IMAP, let alone push IMAP, this is nothing new because the iPhone is now available - this has been going on since gmail was brand new and everyone was clamoring for an invite.

    And seriously, enough with imap idle, what you explicitly want is push imap. push imap uses imap idle but they're not the same, and push is the idea that the email is pushed to the iPhone, vs. just idle where the iPhone is notified when there is new mail.

    I think the point of push gmail is to get the email as soon as it's received from the server without having to wait something like 15 minutes for the client to check, or to use imap idle and "manually" download each email when you need it. Nothing much else.

    Gmail is still email, if you REALLY need some of those extra features, there's nothing stopping you from using gmail in Safari, it's just that it would be immensely more convenient to read and reply (like, you know, basic email functions) in a built in mail client, particularly if it has push.
    gmail's standard interface works just fine for me for reading mail, and basic html works with a lot of the gmail features.


    I get this feeling that everyone here thinks that google MUST do this for iPhone RIGHT NOW or else...yeah right. If it ever happens, it'll be a while. In the meantime, forward all your email to yahoo if you need push imap, or live with using gmail in safari. it sucks, but there are enough squeaky wheels out there, it's not like google is oblivious to it, and maybe there's some reason or another that they're not doing this or have it in the works but hasn't made it available yet.
     
  21. BigPrince macrumors 68020

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    I am having a good time with gmail. Also, I appear to be getting it rather quickly, faster then the 15 min standard check. I got 2 emails with 5 min of each other and it dinged.
     
  22. janey macrumors 603

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    well apple doesn't give people much room between "manual", "15 minute"...and push yahoo.

    i've been using mobile and basic html gmail just fine, but it's mostly because I can't stand gmail pop as it sends ALL my emails, including auto-archived and sent emails, to my iPhone. I don't feel like erasing 50 messages for every 1 i will actually reply to..there's a flipping reason why I archive them in the first place, but gmail gives me no way to forward only the emails i get in my inbox or to get only those emails through pop access. :(
     

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