iMessage 11b3: Facetime/iMessage can ONLY login with Primary iCloud Apple ID now?

KittyKatta

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Did Apple remove the ability to login to iMessages with your personal AppleID?

iOS 10 -> 11b1- Separate AppleID logins possible for iCloud and iMessage/FaceTime
iOS 11b2 - 11b3 - Messages/Facetime can ONLY log into Device iCloud AppleID

If you upgrade from a previous iOS build then your separate iMessage ID remains intact. But if you ever log out of iMessage/Facetime then it defaults to the primary AppleID login and there's no option to change that name. It started in 11b2 so I thought its a bug but now in 11b3 then suddenly a household members AppleID was automatically logged out and defaulted to my account. And now they receive all my texts. (I logged myself out so its fine but still...)

So I'm curious if this is a bug or "feature". Maybe its something they broke. Maybe its a requirement tied to iMessage Sync. Or Maybe I just don't see the correct option for logging in as a different user.


(Note: Yes, you can solve this by logging in a user as the primary AppleID but for some families having a Master iCloud Account makes sense. Unified Photo Library. Shared Contacts. Monitoring Kids Activity. AirPods etc. Workarounds exist but they already got it right the first time)
 

charlituna

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With family sharing you don't really need to have everyone on one account so yeah it's possible that Apple has linked these systems because to them why wouldn't everyone have their own id
 

rangen

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Did Apple remove the ability to login to iMessages with your personal AppleID?

iOS 10 -> 11b1- Separate AppleID logins possible for iCloud and iMessage/FaceTime
iOS 11b2 - 11b3 - Messages/Facetime can ONLY log into Device iCloud AppleID

If you upgrade from a previous iOS build then your separate iMessage ID remains intact. But if you ever log out of iMessage/Facetime then it defaults to the primary AppleID login and there's no option to change that name. It started in 11b2 so I thought its a bug but now in 11b3 then suddenly a household members AppleID was automatically logged out and defaulted to my account. And now they receive all my texts. (I logged myself out so its fine but still...)

So I'm curious if this is a bug or "feature". Maybe its something they broke. Maybe its a requirement tied to iMessage Sync. Or Maybe I just don't see the correct option for logging in as a different user.


(Note: Yes, you can solve this by logging in a user as the primary AppleID but for some families having a Master iCloud Account makes sense. Unified Photo Library. Shared Contacts. Monitoring Kids Activity. AirPods etc. Workarounds exist but they already got it right the first time)
I have a very similar issue. I can no longer sign in to my Apple ID used for iMessage and FaceTime, it automatically takes them from the primary iCloud account with no other option and I can’t seem to figure out how to correct this.
 
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Markgnyc2

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Is this true? If so this is crazy....my family uses 1 master ID but different apple ID's for imessage and facetime, so that we share contacts, photos, etc.
 

rangen

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Is this true? If so this is crazy....my family uses 1 master ID but different apple ID's for imessage and facetime, so that we share contacts, photos, etc.
Yes. I'm trying to find a way around it but cannot seem to.
 

Markgnyc2

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Somehow this doesn't seem right that this functionality would just be removed without warning...there must be lots of people doing the same thing...anyone else seeing this?
 

charlituna

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Somehow this doesn't seem right that this functionality would just be removed without warning...there must be lots of people doing the same thing...anyone else seeing this?
Apple created a system whereby folks could have separate apple ids, even little kids, and still share select information. and with iOS 11 even share a single storage account. The writing was on the wall
 

rangen

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OK I have a work around. I had to log out of iCloud in settings. Then I was able to log in with a different account in FaceTime and iMessage. Then I logged back into iCloud with the usual account. This is a work around, albeit a convoluted on.
 
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Markgnyc2

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Nov 17, 2013
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Apple created a system whereby folks could have separate apple ids, even little kids, and still share select information. and with iOS 11 even share a single storage account. The writing was on the wall
But...my use case is my family shares contacts, all photos, etc. This cant be accomplished with family sharing.
 

Alrescha

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anyone else seeing this?
I see this problem. If I sign out, AppleID field is filled in and not editable. Home Sharing still lets me change the AppleID to the one I use for the iTunes Store.

A.
 
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goonerdavem

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Somehow this doesn't seem right that this functionality would just be removed without warning...there must be lots of people doing the same thing...anyone else seeing this?
YEs!
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OK I have a work around. I had to log out of iCloud in settings. Then I was able to log in with a different account in FaceTime and iMessage. Then I logged back into iCloud with the usual account. This is a work around, albeit a convoluted on.
I can confirm that this works. However, its not ideal. Hope I don't have to do it too often!
 
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