iMessage speed vs whatsapp?

[sniffies]

Personally, I have no clue how WhatsApp became the most popular messenger. It's butt-ugly, clunky, bloated with a lot of unnecessary menus at the bottom, unintuitive, anti-Apple-style, Settings is a mess, even the name sounds awful, just about anything is done wrong. Sorry.

I refused to use it after the dev couldn't be bothered addressing any of my requests; that was when it just just launched and hardly anyone was aware of its existence.

I'm glad I never looked back because now there is a perfect solution from Apple themselves. Hallelujah!

 

[err404]

Cross platform or not, iMessage will have a level of market saturation that no third party messenger could dream of. What's more is that it will work seamlessly for communicating with every phone on the market via SMS fall back.
Sure Whatsapp has it's place, but I know that I would not be able to get most of the people I txt to pay for and install the app.

 

[El3ctronics]

Cross platform or not, iMessage will have a level of market saturation that no third party messenger could dream of. What's more is that it will work seamlessly for communicating with every phone on the market via SMS fall back.

100% correct. iMessage will have the same market saturation as the number of iPhones on the market with iOS5 since it's built into the system. No thirs party app could ever dream of that.

 

[boss.king]

Personally, I have no clue how WhatsApp became the most popular messenger. It's butt-ugly, clunky, bloated with a lot of unnecessary menus at the bottom, unintuitive, anti-Apple-style, Settings is a mess, even the name sounds awful, just about anything is done wrong. Sorry.

I refused to use it after the dev couldn't be bothered addressing any of my requests; that was when it just just launched and hardly anyone was aware of its existence.

I'm glad I never looked back because now there is a perfect solution from Apple themselves. Hallelujah!

What are you talking about? It looks very similar to the standard iOS messages. Also, it can't really be called a 'perfect' solution if it only works with other iOS devices, when it's competitor can be used on multiple platforms

 

[err404]

What are you talking about? It looks very similar to the standard iOS messages. Also, it can't really be called a 'perfect' solution if it only works with other iOS devices, when it's competitor can be used on multiple platforms

Sure it bares a passing resemblance to iOS messages, but it's lacks the clean design. But more importantly, whatsapp requires you to convince your friends to install it. iMessage just works and improves your experience with no action required from anybody.
Frankly all I want to see is a better app for using my google voice SMS. That way I get the texting regardless of what App/OS the other party of the conversation is using.

 

[mongoos150]

Obviously you fail to read daily news and data about upcoming products and releases. Otherwise you wouldn't of opened your mouth and look at stupid as you do now.

Jesus. Do you attack people this quickly in real life? If not, why do it here?

Take a deep breath and relax. Your hostility puts yourself and everyone around you in a bad mood and just perpetuates the hostility.

 

[jtara]

iMessage is apparently based on open standards. In particular XMPP with PubSub (XEP-0060). Kinda surprised to discover this since Apple's PR has painted it as a closed system. Apple is already using the same open standards for email push, notifications, etc.

To the extent that it is "locked down" to Apple platforms, that's an administrative choice that Apple has made. Unknown at this time if clients on other platforms would be possible, provided you have an iCloud account. Apple may be requiring an iDevice UUID with some cryptographic signing to insure that the system remains closed.

Might want to watch what Erica Sandun comes up with on this, LOL.

 

[iKennett]

iMessage wins hands down... my iPhone owning father will use iMessage without even knowing (once upgraded to iOS5) when trying to text me.

Not that the carriers can do much but if I was them I wouldn't been too impressed with Apple. My iPhone will now automatically default to iMessage rather than text without me even having to think.

The question is how long until this happens with VoIP and the carrier become a dumb pipe service. With 4G / LTE in the works the dumb pipe with have the ability to maintain stable VoIP calls.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Personally, I have no clue how WhatsApp became the most popular messenger. It's butt-ugly, clunky, bloated with a lot of unnecessary menus at the bottom, unintuitive, anti-Apple-style, Settings is a mess, even the name sounds awful, just about anything is done wrong. Sorry.

I refused to use it after the dev couldn't be bothered addressing any of my requests; that was when it just just launched and hardly anyone was aware of its existence.

I'm glad I never looked back because now there is a perfect solution from Apple themselves. Hallelujah!

It became popular because it is CROSS PLATFORM.

Cross platform is the key hear as not everyone has iPhones. Android has the largest chunk of the marketshare and I expect to see WP7 to really start chewing up market share as well in the future. Whatsup being cross platform is what really helps.

 

[boss.king]

It became popular because it is CROSS PLATFORM.

Cross platform is the key hear as not everyone has iPhones. Android has the largest chunk of the marketshare and I expect to see WP7 to really start chewing up market share as well in the future. Whatsup being cross platform is what really helps.

Exactly. People seem to be ignoring the fact that not everyone owns an iPhone. If iMessage was implemented across all 4 major platforms (or at least most of them) it would be a real competitor for Whatsapp.

 

[sniffies]

It became popular because it is CROSS PLATFORM.

Cross platform is the key hear as not everyone has iPhones. Android has the largest chunk of the marketshare and I expect to see WP7 to really start chewing up market share as well in the future. Whatsup being cross platform is what really helps.

Exactly. People seem to be ignoring the fact that not everyone owns an iPhone. If iMessage was implemented across all 4 major platforms (or at least most of them) it would be a real competitor for Whatsapp.

The point is that there are quite a few cross-platform messengers. And of them all, WhatsApp is the fugliest, yet it became the most popular. That's what baffles me.

 

[Surrix]

Is iMessages active? When I tried to turn it on and sign in, it tried to sign in for a while and then says, "iMessage Activation

Could not sign in. Please check your network connection and try again."

I just assumed it hadn't been turned on yet. But it sounds like the rest of you are actually using it?

EDIT: Discovered the reason. iMessages doesn't work if your camera is disabled in restrictions (disabled for work reasons). Well that's messed.

 

[Thedeathbear]

I know 0 people with Whatsapp and many with iPhones. The the speed of a seconds or two doesn't bother me much.

 

[chris2k5]

Even with iMessage, I will still be using WhatsApp. Its great for messaging friends overseas and people on other platforms like Android and Blackberry.

 

[El3ctronics]

I know 0 people with Whatsapp and many with iPhones. The the speed of a seconds or two doesn't bother me much.

Download it, istall it and I bet you're shocked how many of your contacts are in your whatsapp contact list (it auto generates). Every person who signs up for it has the same reaction.

 

[boss.king]

The point is that there are quite a few cross-platform messengers. And of them all, WhatsApp is the fugliest, yet it became the most popular. That's what baffles me.

That a point of opinion, not fact. Could you point out a prettier app with similar functionality?

 

[mongoos150]

iMessage is apparently based on open standards. In particular XMPP with PubSub (XEP-0060). Kinda surprised to discover this since Apple's PR has painted it as a closed system. Apple is already using the same open standards for email push, notifications, etc.

To the extent that it is "locked down" to Apple platforms, that's an administrative choice that Apple has made. Unknown at this time if clients on other platforms would be possible, provided you have an iCloud account. Apple may be requiring an iDevice UUID with some cryptographic signing to insure that the system remains closed.

Might want to watch what Erica Sandun comes up with on this, LOL.

When SJ presented FaceTime, he harked on its 'open standards' architecture - think we'll ever see FaceTime for Android? Fat chance.

EDIT: To the people hating on WhatsApp, it really is brilliant due to its cross-platform capabilities. All of my friends on blackberries in Europe and I can communicate for free on whatsapp, upload videos and audio messages, all instantly with read receipts and typing alerts - it is great. iMessage will be great for iPhone users, but for those of us with Android and BB friends in far-away places, WhatsApp is still very much relevant and useful. Cut the hate.

 

[bripab007]

It currently sends a little faster than SMS but a little slower than Whatsapp. That being said, unlike Whatsapp, it doesn't have to load the first message after you open the app (it's already loaded like an SMS). This is due to it being an integrated app. Let's see what happens in the final release.

Thank you for actually bringing something relevant to the discussion. I love WhatsApp but find it eminently frustrating every time it launches and has to reconnect to the servers. Not having to wait those several seconds will definitely be a welcome feeling.

 

[El3ctronics]

Thank you for actually bringing something relevant to the discussion. I love WhatsApp but find it eminently frustrating every time it launches and has to reconnect to the servers. Not having to wait those several seconds will definitely be a welcome feeling.

Just so you know that's the fault of iOS, not whatsapp. If you use the app on Android or BB, the messages load instantly bc apps are able to run in the background.

 

[samcraig]

Obviously you fail to read daily news and data about upcoming products and releases. Otherwise you wouldn't of opened your mouth and look at stupid as you do now.

Yea. iMessenger MIGHT be open standard. So "might" FaceTime. We can see how many other phones support FaceTime other than those on iOS, right?

WhatsApp isn't going anywhere. The user base is already huge. And if you think that just because there's a native app or that Apple has created one it's going to be better or more feature rich - let me go show you iMovie for the iPhone vs ReelDirector, and other editing programs. Or how about the camera app vs Camera +. And so on.

Just because Apple creates a native app doesn't mean others will fail die. Good luck with that.

 

[err404]

It's not an either or proposition. Every iDevice running iOS5 will get iMessage as the default SMS app. This is an undeniable improvement over the iOS4 Message app. Other apps can sit nicely next to it for your cross platform needs.
To be honest, I wont install Whatsapp because I dont want to deal with multipul texting apps. This leaves iMessage as the only viable solution for me because it works with 100% of my contacts (most of them for free).
This is the Achilles heel of Whatsapp; It can not be used exclusively. Users are forced use a second SMS app for contact who have not adopted Whatsapp. Unfortunately due to people like me, Whatsapp will be fighting an uphill battle for market penetration.

I still feel that Google Voice SMS is the best backend for a universal free SMS client. One can unilaterally implement free texting w/o depending on other users switching. We just need a better app for the actual messaging.

 

[CrAkD]

i dont use whats app. but imessage is instant. I was trying it today between an iphone 4 and ipad 2.

 

[unlimitedx]

i dont use whats app. but imessage is instant. I was trying it today between an iphone 4 and ipad 2.

Do you know how much data one imessage is over 3g? how about a picture message (any option to select image size similar to emailing pics)?

 

[borgra]

One killer feature of iMessages is that it works in iPads and as far as I know Whatsapp does not work in iPad.

Having said that I will still use Whatsapp in my iPhone since there are too many BB users out there (at least 50% of my friends are BB users).

 

[barachus]

while we exist in a world where there are actually other phones apart from the iphone, whatsapp will continue to be the more useful app, obviously those of you who live on planet apple where no other phones seem to exist will see whatsapp as a waste of space