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Willaltmann

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Hi i was wondering what will happen if i sent a text as an iMessage to someone but at that time they had no internet to receive it. Would it then turn into a normal text or wait until they have internet to receive it??
Thanks
 
If you have send as SMS/MMS turned on then it should send it as a SMS/MMS after failing to get a delivery receipt.

Otherwise, it will just tell you it failed to send.
 
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What do you mean if "they didn't have internet"? If you mean they don't have WiFi, they can receive iMessages over Edge/3G.
 
FSMBP said:
What do you mean if "they didn't have internet"? If you mean they don't have WiFi, they can receive iMessages over Edge/3G.
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I mean if they didnt have wifi or edge/3g. no internet connection but carrier connection still
 
FSMBP said:
What do you mean if "they didn't have internet"? If you mean they don't have WiFi, they can receive iMessages over Edge/3G.
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i think he meant wifi. i thought imessage was only available over 3g and wifi, i dont think imessage works over edge.

im wrong, i guess it does work over edge.
 
iMessage works just like a normal Text message. If a text message can be sent and delivered, then so can an iMessage.
 
Here are my findings after playing with iMessage on my iPhone and iPad. If the iPad's data is turned off (cellular and wifi) the iMessage shows as "Waiting for Delivery..." on the sending device. Once the iPad has data again (either 3G, Edge or WiFi) the message gets "Delivered". When sending to the iPhone with data turned off, the iMessage does not get turned into a SMS. I did only wait five minutes before re-enabling data so I don't know if the iMessage might error out after a longer period of time.
 
larock said:
Here are my findings after playing with iMessage on my iPhone and iPad. If the iPad's data is turned off (cellular and wifi) the iMessage shows as "Waiting for Delivery..." on the sending device. Once the iPad has data again (either 3G, Edge or WiFi) the message gets "Delivered". When sending to the iPhone with data turned off, the iMessage does not get turned into a SMS. I did only wait five minutes before re-enabling data so I don't know if the iMessage might error out after a longer period of time.
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Can iPads even send our texts? I believe a true test would be to use iPhone to iPhone iMessaging. It's not like a 3G iPad can send out texts (well, not without some sort of Jailbreak/tweaking).
 
FSMBP said:
Can iPads even send our texts? I believe a true test would be to use iPhone to iPhone iMessaging. It's not like a 3G iPad can send out texts (well, not without some sort of Jailbreak/tweaking).
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Good point, I was just sharing what I found using the devices I have readily available. From what I can tell an iMessage and a SMS are not the same, they just share the same app, Messages. I guess we need someone with two iPhones on iOS 5 that can further test.
 
The iMessage / text message choice is made at the device. You can see the send button turn blue when you're sending an iMessage, instead of green when sending a regular text message. If a message is sent through iMessage, then it's an iMessage. I doubt iMessages can magically switch lanes and transfer to an entirely different protocol.

iMessage = iMessage. Text message = text message. They just use the same app.
 
PBF said:
How is it not true?
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turn off WiFi and cellular data and try to use iMessage. I'll wait.


as long as you have signal you should be able to send a sms. To send a MMS or iMessage you need data connection.
 
iMessage is same like whatsapp ..
The only difference is tht whatsapp work on all iphone, android and BB .. while iMessage will work only on iphone/ipad ..
You need some kind of internet connection edge/3g/wifi to have it working ..
Its like sending free sms to any iphone .. The notification u will get is exactly like u get an sms ..
Try whatsapp once and u will see wht iMessage will be like ..
 
If you are asking what it will look like in terms of the "..." "typing" or any other error messages or if it would just send like a normal (green) text would, it's the former.
 
My question still stands, what if the recipient doesnt have cellular data connection or wifi but you send an imessage to them? would you then have to take of your cellular data and wifi and send it as a text???
 
Willaltmann said:
My question still stands, what if the recipient doesnt have cellular data connection or wifi but you send an imessage to them? would you then have to take of your cellular data and wifi and send it as a text???
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Here's what will happen:

Your iPhone will attempt to send an iMessage. After 5 minutes of being unable to deliver the iMessage (since your friend has no data/wifi), it will automatically send your message as an SMS text.

It is all done in the background.
 
Willaltmann said:
My question still stands, what if the recipient doesnt have cellular data connection or wifi but you send an imessage to them? would you then have to take of your cellular data and wifi and send it as a text???
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I don't think i've ever had reception where there is zero data. From my experience no data no signal at all. (i don't mean turning it off)
 
When the person eventually finds service (after both the message and SMS have been sent to them), will they receive a duplicate message, or will apple only display one?
 
Apple will only send one.


First, your iPhone will try to deliver it as an iMessage. Then, if it doesn't deliver (For whatever reason, e.g the other person has no data signal), then it will fall back to SMS.


When they do come back online (Get data signal), then they will NOT receive a duplicate. It's more of a 'one or the other' type deal.
 
FSMBP said:
Here's what will happen:

Your iPhone will attempt to send an iMessage. After 5 minutes of being unable to deliver the iMessage (since your friend has no data/wifi), it will automatically send your message as an SMS text.

It is all done in the background.
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this was once mentioned on another thread, what is supposed to happen is if the iMessage fails it should notify you and ask if you want to send it as an SMS message, at which point if it would cost you money you could say no.

where what was happening was it was sending the message as an SMS without asking the user first, therefore I strongly hope the automatic sending of an SMS is a bug, what if you are iMessaging someone abroad, if it fails to deliver it has just cost you like £3 for something that you expected was free.
 
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