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for any of you holdouts hoping beyond all hope that the notch wil some day disappear... stop holding your breath. The fact that Apple doubles down on animoji with each new iOS update is a clear signal to all that the notch (which hides the true depth camera) is here to stay :(

I don't expect the notch to be permanent. But I barely notice it in my day to day. I do expect Apple to make a notchless design sometime in the next two years.
 
More complications to an app that doesn’t need more menus or features. It’s messaging. There ar so many useless and weird features thrown into it now, that it’s actually confusing to figure out how to use. Looks cluttered, confusing, and isn’t overall a complete mess of a user interface. Not surprising though, that’s the direction Apple has been trending.
 
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More complications to an app that doesn’t need more menus or features. It’s messaging. There ar so many useless and weird features thrown into it now, that it’s actually confusing to figure out how to use. Looks cluttered, confusing, and isn’t overall a complete mess of a user interface. Not surprising though, that’s the direction Apple has been trending.

Yeah I wish they would take out some of the useless stuff and add features like being able to reply to specific messages like a Reddit thread
 
[doublepost=1560984632][/doublepost]People still use this app? I'm confused... it does not work with android. Ditched it years ago for Whatsapp. Still use an iPhone though.
Services that doesn't work with Android are always a failure and no one cares about it, I mean look at iCloud, iWork, Apple Books, Apple Podcasts, iCloud Photos! Even hardware is DOA, just look how horrible AirPods & Apple Watch are doing! Meanwhile, I am enjoying my Google whatever messaging app that they will not discard the next morning.

Seriously though, I want Apple to make Messages app simpler, too many taps to do simple things for an iOS app.
 
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I have a weird issue where imessage displays a contacts nickname in previews and the imessage group text UI's. Once I open a group chat up or a new message it shows their normal name.
 
They're often not free. Plus, imagine trying to send a few photos or a file to someone using sms.
Dunno, I think a lot of plans here in the states have had unlimited SMS for a while now. Pictures go through MMS just fine, last I checked.
 
Dunno, I think a lot of plans here in the states have had unlimited SMS for a while now. Pictures go through MMS just fine, last I checked.
MMS definitely isn't free for me. The costs quite quickly add up, especially if sending full-size/resolution pictures. I could revert to email, which I guess would be the correct tool, but I'm lazy and iMessage/WhatsApp etc seem easier for just sending a load of photos of a shared day out to each other.
 
MMS definitely isn't free for me. The costs quite quickly add up, especially if sending full-size/resolution pictures. I could revert to email, which I guess would be the correct tool, but I'm lazy and iMessage/WhatsApp etc seem easier for just sending a load of photos of a shared day out to each other.
I mean, whatever the most of your network is using, I guess, right? Where I am, in the US, I find the iMessage / SMS "text thread" is the lowest common denominator and has the least friction. Generally everyone I meet is like "ok, I'll text you" and that means Messages if you're on an iPhone.

I've been in special purpose groups where people want to use GroupMe or whatever, but that's usually like another layer of organizing people to be on there, sign up, install the app if they don't have it, etc. Whenever I've travelled overseas recently, people are all jacked into WhatsApp, but I prefer to keep Facebook out of my business as much as possible, personally. Then there's WeChat, which I only used when my friend was in China and I was chatting with him a lot.
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I would so love this feature. I have messages on my iPhone delete themselves after a month but on my iPad I've got a gigantic iMessage history because there's some conversations I don't want to lose.

Pretty sure using "enable Messages in iCloud" takes care of this. Your whole message history is saved in iCloud and synced only as needed. And if you get a new Apple device, all your messages start flowing in as soon as you sign into iCloud, making it all pretty seamless.
 
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Pretty sure using "enable Messages in iCloud" takes care of this. Your whole message history is saved in iCloud and synced only as needed. And if you get a new Apple device, all your messages start flowing in as soon as you sign into iCloud, making it all pretty seamless.
Nah, I don’t think so. I think what he wants is to use his iPad to store all the conversations while saving up spaces on iPhone. Not a bad thing to do. What iCloud message does is every device will theoretically have one singular exact copy of iMessages, and changes made are applied across the board, which is not what he wants.
 
Nah, I don’t think so. I think what he wants is to use his iPad to store all the conversations while saving up spaces on iPhone. Not a bad thing to do. What iCloud message does is every device will theoretically have one singular exact copy of iMessages, and changes made are applied across the board, which is not what he wants.

Messages in iCloud purges old messages from local storage. As you say, you see the same messages on every device, but it can purge the database to save local storage space. When it first came out, I enabled it on my Mac and the size of my iMessage database dropped dramatically.
 
So maybe I'm missing something here (if so I feel REALLY dumb) but where is the option to delete a photo/attachment in Messages? In iOS 12, I could navigate to a particular conversation, click the "i" at the top, view all photos and attachments in that conversation thread, press and hold on photo or attachment, and either delete it immediately or select more and then "checkmark" multiple individual message bubbles, photos, and/or attachments. I cannot figure out how to do this in iOS 13. I just installed the lastest Developers beta 6 and still not seeing it. I was hoping this was just something overlooked or disabled in the new iOS, but after six betas, I am either missing something, or pretty upset at Apple for removing. Any ideas or help out there?
 
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