iMessege could learn a few lessons from FB Messenger

ajiuo

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Apple needs to step it up Messenger is being improved all of the time.

1) Apple should allow message history to be stored on iCloud instead of locally on the device. Then you would have the option to archive or delete... Like on messenger.

2) Apple should slow people to send money to friends using Apple Pay... Another hand Messenger feature.

3) Why not make android and Windows apps and or API's

4) stickers might be cool
 
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hevaKmaI

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End to end encryption, privacy, the prevention of snooping. That's one big thing Facebook messenger doesn't have that iMessages does, and probably why you don't have features like iCloud history. Hangouts and FB don't do that, so a man in the middle could wiretap your conversations.
 

CTHarrryH

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No thanks - don't want any of those features. People can already send me money from bank accounts via imessage
 
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yillbs

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End to end encryption, privacy, the prevention of snooping. That's one big thing Facebook messenger doesn't have that iMessages does, and probably why you don't have features like iCloud history. Hangouts and FB don't do that, so a man in the middle could wiretap your conversations.
I agree with this guy, apple has told us like 100 times they are focusing on being safe. And while it's annoying, you can blame the liberals who seem to think all their data is being mined to " hurt the man " .
 
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C DM

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Apple doesn't want to make the apps available on competitor devices so that people would use their devices and remain in their ecosystem.
 
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Rhonindk

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Apple doesn't want to make the apps available on competitor devices so that people would use their devices and remain in their ecosystem.
Sadly. Facetime would have been a really good overall system to have had on all. iMessage .... maybe.... There are others I like.

As for FB Messenger ... not only no, but feckin no :eek:
 

vlinkz

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1) Apple should allow message history to be stored on iCloud instead of locally on the device. Then you would have the option to archive or delete... Like on messenger
This (and the other privacy protection abilities) is why I use iMessage in the first place.

Facebook and privacy are mutually exclusive. FB could learn from Apple but that's not their business model.
 
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TitanTiger

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Sending money would be about the only feature I'd possibly care about in that list. I far prefer using iMessage over FB Messenger.
 

Shirasaki

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Well. iOS emoji is way better than Facebook sticker when comparing between them.

And Facebook messenger is currently the only app constantly notifying me to open notification when I turn it off in settings. Too bad that Apple doesn't restrict notification settings so that I can use it to limit such pop ups.

And, as long as mobile page can handle almost anything, why I need to bother installing TWO apps on phone and swap them in between in order to use those features?

So, except a Facebook bookmark, I leave no place for Facebook.
 

GrumpyTrucker

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I get some of these arguments against the original post, but I'm struggling with the encryption/privacy thing. Apple already keep almost all our data on their servers in one form or another, if we use their apps. iCloud emails and iWork documents etc are just two examples. No one seems to be going security nuts over that. Is there any particular reason iMessages are considered differently by people, and can't be stored there but still encrypted? How may of us have lost precious messages from loved ones no longer with us due to a device failure or corrupted/lost/missed backup? If those messages could be restored - or at least viewed somehow - from iCloud so much the better.

I too would like to see the ability (make it an option if people are that freaked) for my message history to be stored on iCloud. And yes, release Android versions of iMessage and FaceTime so we can communicate with Green friends using iMessage etc. I don't know about most people here but my circle is probably 50:50 iOS/Android. No way on this earth will either 50% swap to the other platform. Making it easier to communicate using a single protocol cross platform has to be better for everyone surely?

Having said that, the one feature I wish they'd put in iMessage beyond all others is a usable search facility. Having to scroll through days or months worth of messages to find a link I know someone sent me is a pain.
 
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Shirasaki

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Having said that, the one feature I wish they'd put in iMessage beyond all others is a usable search facility. Having to scroll through days or months worth of messages to find a link I know someone sent me is a pain.
Here is the point, which I just have that feeling days ago.
iMessage search capability is WAY beyond expectation. Searching links is almost a joke. Searching messages? I don't think it will bring out all "hi" message on ALL conversations if I type "hi" in search field.
 

Rhonindk

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And yes, release Android versions of iMessage and FaceTime so we can communicate with Green friends using iMessage etc. I don't know about most people here but my circle is probably 50:50 iOS/Android. No way on this earth will either 50% swap to the other platform. Making it easier to communicate using a single protocol cross platform has to be better for everyone surely?

Having said that, the one feature I wish they'd put in iMessage beyond all others is a usable search facility. Having to scroll through days or months worth of messages to find a link I know someone sent me is a pain.
I agree that iMessage and Facetime for Android (and Windows/Linux) would be a boost.
For texting though - my use group is about 33/67 iOS/Android - we use a secure text messenger for now.
 
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