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Immortality awaits
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wdlove said:
Very true. The actual top limit on human lifespan, about 120, hasn't changed in our entire history, only how long the "average" person is expected to live. Some seriously strange breakthrough is needed. Sure, we may see it, and they should continue to work on it. But me? Dead man walking.
clayjohanson said:
Well, sort of. Entrophic effect takes into account the whole, not localized instances. For instance, you CAN have someone live forever, at the expense of the whole. Since it's not clear that there IS an end to the universe, or that matter does or does not appear from nothingness, it's pretty safe to assume that at least there is a chance the universe is eternal. And if that is so, a life that lasts "forever" is not totally impossible. To wit: Entrophy only applies to closed space. A glass of water in a closed box will waste away to atoms over time, but add water from outside the box...
I think it would realy suck to have imortality even if it was posible (and cmon thats just ubsurde) cuz if we lived forever then we would run out of things to do eventualy life would lose all of its spontinuity and exitment.
So what do yall think will happen when we die
So what do yall think will happen when we die
stoid said:
I am with you on this one. Though with the way things are going with raising retirement ages and this foolish talk of "reform", the only benefit that I see with longer life is one of being able to feed WalMart with low cost workers.
one of the thoughts I had on this is that we have the retirement system backwards. We should be enjoying "leisure" when we are young and can enjoy it. And work at WalMart, or where-ever when we are older (forgive me, I think that WalMart is the Devil when it comes to those to old to be able to contribute in their "golden" years.
jayscheuerle
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Immortality is already here.
Do something great with your life, really great, and you'll live on forever in history and memories. 99.999% of us will die and be forgotten in a generation or two...
Do something great with your life, really great, and you'll live on forever in history and memories. 99.999% of us will die and be forgotten in a generation or two...
jayscheuerle said:
Ah, but even that is finite! The longer our history lasts, the more notable people and inventions amass, until there's simply too many "notables" to keep track of, and you get lost among the others. It's inevitable: given a great enough length of time, and we will all be forgotten, no matter what we did. I dunno 'bout you all, but that sure cheers ME up!
jayscheuerle
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Hemingray said:It's inevitable: given a great enough length of time, and we will all be forgotten, no matter what we did. I dunno 'bout you all, but that sure cheers ME up!
Sure. Think of the basics, because somebody had to be the first to make fire, a wheel, gears, a cork, a gun, a spear, clay pots... the list goes on...
Sadly, for every Bill Gates that's remembered, a Steve Jobs is forgotten. History remembers the winners, the very good, and the very bad..
I don't really care about immortality, the thought scares me. I just wish right now that my best friend could live until she reached her 20th birthday. Right now she is 5 weeks off it... I guess I can hope.
jayscheuerle said:
and we can tell sj is already forgotten when you have springsteen equating ipod with bill gates
wdlove said:What is wrong with your friend, that she might not make it to her 20th birthday? I'm very sorry to hear about this, my prayers are with you and her.
Leukaemia when 15, relapse of Leukaemia in Jan of last year, bone marrow transplant in August, haemorrhaging in her lungs in November from all the radiotherapy, caught sepsis in Feb of this year from all the bleeding and currently her body is failing from organ damage due to all the drugs she has been on over the last 15 months.
Sadly after she recovered from her respiratory collapse in Feb she was sent home and was quite close to being better but the sepsis caught her.
I haven't heard from her in 2 days and I cannot contact her family so I assume she has taken a few more steps back which probably means she has passed away. She hasn't been awake for more than an hour a day since the start of last month so it is probably a blessing anyway.
She will be sorely missed by all her friends and family, especially as her mother died in Jan of last year. She was a wonderful person, bright, caring and extremely giving. Oh well, such is life.