Important: Please check that your Watch band is not defective

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  1. Menopause, May 8, 2015
    Last edited: May 8, 2015

    Menopause macrumors 6502a


    Feb 26, 2011

    Enlarged image:

    Guys, those of you that are getting the sports (or for that matter any other) band, please take a couple of seconds out to ensure that the 'lug' — the little metal part that engages when you slide the band into the groove to hold the band securely in place — is not defective.

    Here's how: If you carefully press the other side of the lug to make the metal part come out, it should be symmetrically straight, parallel to the band (as shown in the picture left).

    If you have a defective lug, as shown in the picture on the right, the band will slide in but also slide out from the other side of the Watch's groove, since there is nothing locking the link into its place.

    Don't forget to check it on both (in case of Sports Band, all three) sides of the bands!

    Hope this is helpful information.

  2. Sirious macrumors 65816


    Jan 2, 2013
    United Kingdom
    Checked out of curiosity and mine is not defective :)

    Does it actually affect the operation of the band?
  3. Menopause thread starter macrumors 6502a


    Feb 26, 2011
    Yes, absolutely. If (even) one side doesn't stay put and slides off without you noticing, you're at risk of your Watch falling and taking a hit on the floor!
  4. IllusionEntity macrumors 6502


    Jun 23, 2013
    Kent, UK

    Surely if your watch came in unattached and smashed Apple would be accountable if it could be proven that the band is faulty?
  5. Natzoo macrumors 65816


    Sep 16, 2014
    Not sure where i am
    You really think apple would buy you a new watch if its their fault. you are correct....if at least 100,000 people make a petition
  6. Kavier macrumors 6502a


    Feb 1, 2010
    Raleigh, NC
    Thanks for the advice. Hopefully, my sport band will arrive soon and then I'll have something to check!
  7. iamasmith macrumors 6502


    Apr 10, 2015
    Cheshire, UK
    Great tip, thanks. Leather band is absolutely fine and I'll be checking my green sports this way too when it turns up :)
  8. samiznaetekto macrumors 65816

    Dec 26, 2009
    Hahaha!!! That's what I've been saying all along. "I told you so!" The band connector design is so bad from the mechanical engineering standpoint that makes you wonder if Google or Microsoft somehow planted their agent in Apple's design team.

    This is only the beginning! Imagine months of sweat, water and crud getting into these lug buttons!

    The worst is yet to come.

    To add insult to injury, it's Gruber himself who found this!!!!! Bwahahahahahah priceless
  9. Joe1602 macrumors regular

    Sep 24, 2012
    For someone who posts here a lot, you really hate this watch. You seem to be reveling in anecdotes of band problems. So sad.
  10. samiznaetekto macrumors 65816

    Dec 26, 2009
    Because I saw these problems months before the launch. You don't have to be a Ph.D. in mechanical engineering to see that it's a bad design. Even waitresses know that.
  11. WilliamG macrumors G3

    Mar 29, 2008
    Please stop trolling. And please change your signature and location apples. They're completely obnoxious.
  12. spytech macrumors regular

    Jul 29, 2013
    Why is the design bad, and what do you suggest to improve it?
  13. samiznaetekto macrumors 65816

    Dec 26, 2009
    Sweat, water, soap, gunk, dead skin cells, sand will get in the lug latch cavities and jam them (they're only spring loaded with weak springs). You know, the gunk that tends to accumulate on watches and bands:


    Sure, you can clean your watch regularly. But some of it will get info lug latches and eventually jam them. Your band is then impossible to remove without taking a saw to it.

    Even lugs themselves can get stuck in their channels if user doesn't take bands out and cleans them regularly.

    Same with the mouse wheel (aka Digital Crown). So far, users were able to dissolve crystallized sweat with water, but with time, more sticky gunk will accumulate there and it will stop rotating smoothly or even jam if sand gets in there.

    Apple ignored to research why horology settled on traditional band attachment design (using pins). It's because it minimizes the surface area where the gunk can accumulate and cause problems. In addition, it uses the leverage principle (pins are tiny in diameter, the band constantly jiggles them a bit with a lot of leverage factor (~10.0), which softens and removes gunk directly from the tiny contact area). This design has been proven by centuries and hundreds of billions of man-years of life testing.

    Instead, Apple chose the design that has no leverage (factor 1.0) against extra friction caused by gunk. Both lugs in their channels, lug latches, and the knob slide directly against the friction surfaces, with no leverage and no self-cleaning.

    Epic fail. I've been saying this since November, and nobody was taking this seriously.

    And I just can't believe it's Gruber who became a victim of not one, but two defects. Millions of people read Gruber. Apple should have a special person double checking anything that gets ordered by Gruber. What an epic fail.

  14. samiznaetekto macrumors 65816

    Dec 26, 2009
  15. Rok73 macrumors 65816


    Apr 21, 2015
    Planet Earth
    Gunk much? I was nearly vomiting when I read your text.

    It's not like people are living in a shed full of pigs. LOL

    I can't speak for other people but I can assure you that none of the devices I use on a daily basis look as you imagine in your wildest dirty dreams. Your opinion just feels so made up maybe you should consider writing modern fairy tales. Smh
  16. Aussiebob2322 macrumors newbie

    May 3, 2015
    Lady Lake , FL
    unfortunately he is probably right. Whenever i wear a watch for months on end, all of that gunk does accumulate.
    with traditional watches i take a toothbrush and scrub the time piece.
    i guess i will have to do the same thing with the link band and lug groove on the apple watch.
  17. samiznaetekto macrumors 65816

    Dec 26, 2009
    Sure, the example was chosen exaggerated to highlight the issue. But as you can see from the photo of the band that literraly fell apart, the design is very flimsy and won't stand the test of time. It's only a matter of time until your band either gets stuck or sends your watch flying.
  18. Supermallet macrumors 65816


    Sep 19, 2014
    Obvious troll is obvious. The ignore list is your friend.

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