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even if the problems were fixed for browsing purposes, the problem still remains of a realistic way to get the songs off your iPod. You can't just say you can take songs on and off your iPod as you please, that's how Apple protects against mass-piracy (obviously that can be circumvented but anythign can really). CDs would be too expensive and take too much time to make.

Wow ok i just thought of something. You have to enter your account information to purchase the tunes right? (email + password). What if Apple took this information, since you already entered it, and credits the song as a pending download to your iTunes library, similar to a podcast's automatic update feature. The next time you log on, it's there and downloads itself at no additional cost to you. That could work out really well :)
 
rockthecasbah said:
even if the problems were fixed for browsing purposes, the problem still remains of a realistic way to get the songs off your iPod. You can't just say you can take songs on and off your iPod as you please, that's how Apple protects against mass-piracy (obviously that can be circumvented but anythign can really). CDs would be too expensive and take too much time to make.
Why couldn't Apple just sync the library both ways between the iPod and iTunes? Any added songs on either device would end up on both devices. Apple could leave all of their other piracy protection in place.
 
rockthecasbah said:
You can't just say you can take songs on and off your iPod as you please
Have you ever tried?

The iTunes program doesn't give you this ability, and the Mac Finder hides the musc folders, but that's the extent of it.

If you drop to a command-line (or use Windows) to view the directories on an iPod, you'll find a directory tree containing lots of numbered files with the usual music filename-extensions (.m4a, .m4p, etc.). Just copy them wherever you want. The title/artist/info data is in the files, as a part of the ID3 tags.

The only thing you lose when pulling files from the iPod are the original filenames. And it is trivial to rename the files with names that match the ID3 tags. (One way is to just import them into a copy of iTunes!)
 
flyTunes

My Dad is a pilot and when I got him his iPod, I got "flyTunes" laser inscribed on the back. He loves it.
 
shaming said:
The only thing you lose when pulling files from the iPod are the original filenames. And it is trivial to rename the files with names that match the ID3 tags. (One way is to just import them into a copy of iTunes!)


Well there are 3rd party agents that you can download that will allow you to take music off of the ipod and add it to you're library. Though apple doesn't approve of these Its easy to see the dilemma with trying the ITMS in the air.
 
ChrisJames said:
Well there are 3rd party agents that you can download that will allow you to take music off of the ipod and add it to you're library. Though apple doesn't approve of these Its easy to see the dilemma with trying the ITMS in the air.
Why would anybody use one of these programs? It's trivial to just get the files without buying anybody else's software. My posting (which you partly quoted) even tells you how.

As for an airline writing their own program for an in-flight system to do this, it would be trivial. Less than a minute of programming.

Of course, it would also be illegal. Copying music you didn't pay for is illegal, even if you're an airline.
 
mattthemutt said:
That would be more interesting than the current crap they have on those little airline radios.
The new Air Canada Embraer fleet have bore than crappy airline radios.
 
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