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There is no reason you should have any lower than an iPhone 4 once the new iPhone comes out. You will be able to sell your iPhone 4 for the cost of a new one under contract on ebay or craigslist. Stop complaining about missing features, you are not supposed to have a phone for longer than 2 years.

I don't understand why you being downvoted! I sold my iPhone 4 after a year and only £68 less then i bought it for, on ebay. I got the new 4s and thats for £68 more. Even an iPhone full of scraches and marks can be recycled for nearly as much as the half of the original price. My iPhone 4s goes on ebay a week before Apple announces the new iPhone. I definitely don't mind paying a little to have the latest.
 
This is completely untrue. I tested this last night myself. If you turn off iTunes match all the songs you played are still there. I tested on my iPad (where I don't normally play any songs from iTunes Match) and if you look in "about" in settings it shows the number of downloaded songs on the device. Confirmed it in iTunes in the device contents drop down. I think they just removed the cloud icons to clean up the look of it (they could return). Personally I wish they would let you put a limit on the amount of space you reserve for music. Eg. 2GB, once reached it can automatically remove the least played songs.

You are one hundred percent right. This is completely un true. I also tested this on my iOS 6 beta iphone and sure, it doesn't show the cloud icons that let you know its downloading, but sure enough, after you listen to it you can swipe over that song and the delete button appears. This doesn't appear for songs you haven't "streamed" yet. And in the music app in the usage section of settings, there is indeed data there, from the song you downloaded. Hopefully in one of the later betas they actually have real streaming.
 
This is completely untrue. I tested this last night myself. If you turn off iTunes match all the songs you played are still there. I tested on my iPad (where I don't normally play any songs from iTunes Match) and if you look in "about" in settings it shows the number of downloaded songs on the device. Confirmed it in iTunes in the device contents drop down. I think they just removed the cloud icons to clean up the look of it (they could return). Personally I wish they would let you put a limit on the amount of space you reserve for music. Eg. 2GB, once reached it can automatically remove the least played songs.

I’m sure that you have had some other responses already, but you are wrong. It does indeed stream as I've just tested it myself.

And to those of you who think that the tracks are being deleted when you turn match off. While anything is possible, what would be the point of Apple doing that? They are your own tracks that you own and the whole point of downloading them would be to able to keep them on your device. Just arbitrarily deleting them en masse when you turn match off would pointless and annoying and counter to the whole point of having your tracks in the cloud. I'm not buying it.
 
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AWESOME! Then I'll finally sign up for Match. Don't have room on my iphone to store much music, but if I can stream it... :D:D

I'm glad your excited for streaming, but I think you would have been fine without it.

Currently, iTunes Match would add and remove music as you downloaded when you needed more room. If you only had, say, a gig available, it would basically use that gig to cache music. When you played something you didn't currently have, it would just make room for it by removing something else.

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One thing I don't like about iTunes match is that the songs don't show up on a playlist in my car when i have my iPhone connected, only songs I have downloaded can be played, that sucks.

Pretty sure there's a setting that will resolve that:

In the Music section of settings in iOS, it's called "Show All Music." You want that turned to "On."

(At least on the device itself; can't really say if you're syncing it to a car head unit, which might make my entire point moot, requiring me to go shut up somewhere :) )
 
I'm glad your excited for streaming, but I think you would have been fine without it.

Currently, iTunes Match would add and remove music as you downloaded when you needed more room. If you only had, say, a gig available, it would basically use that gig to cache music. When you played something you didn't currently have, it would just make room for it by removing something else.

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Pretty sure there's a setting that will resolve that:

In the Music section of settings in iOS, it's called "Show All Music." You want that turned to "On."

(At least on the device itself; can't really say if you're syncing it to a car head unit, which might make my entire point moot, requiring me to go shut up somewhere :) )

I actually have the same issue with my head unit as well. I think it has to do with the head unit being compatible with itunes match. I think we're out of luck.
 
A lot of iPhone music apps also don't recognize "matched" (but not downloaded) songs as well...

One thing I don't like about iTunes match is that the songs don't show up on a playlist in my car when i have my iPhone connected, only songs I have downloaded can be played, that sucks.
 
I'm not sure this is true. I set up match and had no songs on the phone. I played an entire album and the available space on my phone dropped. Then I enabled Airplane mode and reopened the music app. The only Album showing was the one that I had played and it would still play with no access to the net. So it may be streaming, but if it is, it's streaming and downloading.
 
In my tests it works pretty much the same as IOS 5 except it does not display icon to indicate if the song has been downloaded or not (it used to have a cloud beside songs not loaded to device).

Previous IOS 5, as with IOS 6, it starts playing the song as soon as it can after selection. In other words, after you select a song from icloud, it starts playing while it continues to download the rest of it in the background. Some may confuse this with streaming but it is not. Subsequent plays of the same song are instant because the track is already loaded to the IOS device and no download occurs (unless you delete it).

To further prove my point try this... play some songs and then turn on Airplane mode. You will then see only the songs that you have previously played/downloaded. This is NOT streaming. The songs do not get re-downloaded every time you play them.

It is possible that Apple is testing some accounts for streaming vs. downloading, or maybe only in US? I am in Canada.
 
Apple is most likely testing a few things.

On my iphone running ios6. Any track I play gets downloaded as orgiinally intended with the service. After I turn off itunes match the music I played is still there and I have to delete it.

On my wifes iphone. Music played is downloaded but when I turn off itunes match the music downloaded/listened to is wiped.

Apple may be trying to improve the hybrid streaming/downloading method.

By the way outr of 6 iphones I tested. 4 behaved like mine. And 2 behaved like my wifes.
 
I can see the advantages of iTunes Match as you say, what I was really saying was that I want Apple to start selling iTunes lossless tracks.

I think it makes sense to stream compressed songs but I simply refuse to buy compressed music. Not now not ever.

My point was that lots of people are moving from iTunes to Spotify because Spotify is cheaper in the long run if you purchase a lot of music and Spotify offers the same audio quality as iTunes then I think iTunes need to offer something better than Spotify - namely lossless tracks.
I agree on the uncompressed music.... and hope it will come in the near future. Although I rarely buy music from iTunes I have bought some--and downloaded a ton of "free for day" tracks. It was nice that anything pre-iTunes plus format has now been upgraded. I am hoping the same happens with lossless.

It's been more than a quarter of a century since the release of the CD and it is a shame that your typical music sold today is of less quality.




Michael

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WRONG. It downloads the file and stores it in a folder.
Never does for me unless I intentionally choose to download, or click the cloud icon to download it. Otherwise it just streams--and it always has (been using iTunes Match since it first went into beta).




Mike
 
You are one hundred percent right. This is completely un true. I also tested this on my iOS 6 beta iphone and sure, it doesn't show the cloud icons that let you know its downloading, but sure enough, after you listen to it you can swipe over that song and the delete button appears. This doesn't appear for songs you haven't "streamed" yet. And in the music app in the usage section of settings, there is indeed data there, from the song you downloaded. Hopefully in one of the later betas they actually have real streaming.

Thanks for agreeing! It is true, but some members of this forum are disputed that it downloads songs still...the swines!

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I’m sure that you have had some other responses already, but you are wrong. It does indeed stream as I've just tested it myself.

And to those of you who think that the tracks are being deleted when you turn match off. While anything is possible, what would be the point of Apple doing that? They are your own tracks that you own and the whole point of downloading them would be to able to keep them on your device. Just arbitrarily deleting them en masse when you turn match off would pointless and annoying and counter to the whole point of having your tracks in the cloud. I'm not buying it.

I am sorry but I believe I am correct still, but do this simple test for me...

Turn off iTunes Match (it doesn't matter what device you use)

Make sure there is "no data" in the usage area of settings app. (General, Usage, Music,,,,no data)

Turn on iTunes Match (let it load a bit or fully, you decide)

Go to an album and play the first 5 songs then pause or stop the music

Go back to settings and look at "about" and you will see it says you have 5 songs (or 6 if you let the next track start playing for a few seconds).

Go to "usage" and you will see it shows data for music (approx 50MB for 5 songs give or take)

Turn off iTunes Match and the songs you just played will be there still. (in the music app and the settings "about" or "usage"

If you plug into iTunes itself and click the triangle where it says iPad (eg) and it will show you music, books, tones etc...the songs you played will be there too.

This shouldn't happen if it's stream only. I still think the cloud icons have just been removed and maybe they will return. This is how it works on my devices, but as it's a iOS beta results could vary,,,who knows!
Just reading some other responses: I agree, if it downloads, it is not streaming. Google Play streams....takes up no data at all on your device except song metadata) and it does not download at all.
 
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not anymore...with ios 6, they are all now available in your car.
I now have 18,000 songs on my BMW connected drive. With iOS 5, none of the Match music was available.

It doesn't work in my car in ios 6.

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A lot of iPhone music apps also don't recognize "matched" (but not downloaded) songs as well...

I hope they fix this soon, I don't know if I'm gonna re-subscribe.
 
Thank you...

Thanks for agreeing! It is true, but some members of this forum are disputed that it downloads songs still...the swines!

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I am sorry but I believe I am correct still, but do this simple test for me...

Turn off iTunes Match (it doesn't matter what device you use)

Make sure there is "no data" in the usage area of settings app. (General, Usage, Music,,,,no data)

Turn on iTunes Match (let it load a bit or fully, you decide)

Go to an album and play the first 5 songs then pause or stop the music

Go back to settings and look at "about" and you will see it says you have 5 songs (or 6 if you let the next track start playing for a few seconds).

Go to "usage" and you will see it shows data for music (approx 50MB for 5 songs give or take)

Turn off iTunes Match and the songs you just played will be there still. (in the music app and the settings "about" or "usage"

If you plug into iTunes itself and click the triangle where it says iPad (eg) and it will show you music, books, tones etc...the songs you played will be there too.

This shouldn't happen if it's stream only. I still think the cloud icons have just been removed and maybe they will return. This is how it works on my devices, but as it's a iOS beta results could vary,,,who knows!
Just reading some other responses: I agree, if it downloads, it is not streaming. Google Play streams....takes up no data at all on your device except song metadata) and it does not download at all.

You are correct sir. The music still downloads. You can see the size in "settings > usage" increase as you play more and more songs. Also, if you disconnect from any wifi or 3g/4g, you can still play the tracks. It's downloading them still. Period. They removed the icons - pure and simple.
 
If you are an iTunes user, it is convenient to have it across all devices. Ratings, Cover Art, metadata, play counts, playlists, etc.

Also, I like coverflow. As someone who is OCD with metadata on my collection I love that I can view it in that manner.

Unfortunately, six months after it was launched, iTunes Match still has many bugs concerning metadata like ratings, cover art, and play counts. Check this thread in Apple's support forums:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3495653

The play count bug really, er, bugs me as most of my iPod playlists are based on play count.
 
I agree on the uncompressed music.... and hope it will come in the near future. Although I rarely buy music from iTunes I have bought some--and downloaded a ton of "free for day" tracks. It was nice that anything pre-iTunes plus format has now been upgraded. I am hoping the same happens with lossless.

It's been more than a quarter of a century since the release of the CD and it is a shame that your typical music sold today is of less quality

+1
If you are paying for the music,it would be nice to atleast get the quality it was recorded in, not a lower compressed format.
I understand portable devices size capabilties and streaming options, but the choice to have the original quality or lossless should not be a luxury in todays society.
 
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