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nickspohn

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Not sure if there is a thread on this, but someone else posted this, and i wanted to clear this up.

Could this mean that there is more to come?
 

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It could mean that they just do not want other companies knowing how Apple fit all of that technology in there and what other companies helped in doing so. Just an idea
 
It means Apple submitted some information to the FCC, but they don't want to make it public prior to the iPhone going on sale (which will happen before the 45 days is up). Once the 45 days is up after FCC approval, you'll be able to see what Apple was hiding.

This is why some people are speculating that there might be something in the new iPhone that wasn't revealed yesterday.
 
That was me :p

As I said, I think Steve has a thing or two still up his sleeve for the iPhone 3G. It must be something that can be seen (camera for video confrencing?) for them to hold back pictures, there must also be extra features/apps for them to hold back the manual.
 
This letter was dated June 1st. The keynote was June 9th.
Apple were simply asking the FCC to not publish anything that would give the game away prior to the keynote.

There's no way that apple would have included some secret hardware (i.e. front facing camera) and not talked about it in the keynote. Apple is a business....share prices go up if the hardware looks good...keeping the hardware information a secret until release date just doesn't make sense.
 
This letter was dated June 1st. The keynote was June 9th.
Apple were simply asking the FCC to not publish anything that would give the game away prior to the keynote.

No, or they wouldnt have said to hold information for 45 days, would they?
 
Plus, why would they allow the other Exhibits to be released, but not 1,2, and 9?
 
This letter was dated June 1st. The keynote was June 9th.
Apple were simply asking the FCC to not publish anything that would give the game away prior to the keynote.

There's no way that apple would have included some secret hardware (i.e. front facing camera) and not talked about it in the keynote. Apple is a business....share prices go up if the hardware looks good...keeping the hardware information a secret until release date just doesn't make sense.

Again, they did it with the first iPhone.
 
Oh for goodness' sake.

Apple does this with almost every product, including the first iPhone. So do other manufacturers, who don't want other companies seeing their schematics, or hackers changing phone freqs etc.

It's meaningless boilerplate phraseology and common as dirt.

As for the exhibits that aren't kept quiet, that's because the law says you can't stop publishing of the test results.

If you have the time, read sections 457-459 below for complete details:

FCC Regulations pertaining to Privacy
 
Oh for goodness' sake.

Apple does this with almost every product, including the first iPhone. So do other manufacturers, who don't want other companies seeing their schematics, or hackers changing phone freqs etc.

It's meaningless and common as dirt.

As for the exhibits that aren't kept quiet, that's because the law says you can't stop publishing of the test results.

Anyone have a link to the same type of letter submitted for the iPhone v.1?
 
No, exhibits 3-8 are disclosed permanently.
here's the link to the whole document
https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=952922&native_or_pdf=pdf

dis·close (d-sklz)
tr.v. dis·closed, dis·clos·ing, dis·clos·es
1. To expose to view, as by removing a cover; uncover.
2. To make known (something heretofore kept secret).

exhibits 3-8 were latent - a request for them NEVER to be disclosed.

la·tent (lāt′'nt)
adjective
dormant but capable of normal development under the best conditions

With patents and certificates from various entities like UL and FCC, you NEED to tell them exactly how everything works, but Apple (nor any other "inventors") really want to share how EVERYTHING works. My guess is it is them not wanting the other companies to use their hard work and effort and just copy. By letting competitors do that, apple will loose out because their cost of developement will be high while the competitors will be very low because they needed to do no (or very little) research and will be able to just copy and adjust what is inside of the iphone.
 
dis·close (d-sklz)
tr.v. dis·closed, dis·clos·ing, dis·clos·es
1. To expose to view, as by removing a cover; uncover.
2. To make known (something heretofore kept secret).

exhibits 3-8 were latent - a request for them NEVER to be disclosed.

la·tent (lāt′'nt)
adjective
dormant but capable of normal development under the best conditions.

Wow, thank you mr dictionary. We all really cared.
 
I think the key here is that somethings are ok for the FCC to disclose after the launch. One of which is the manual.

This leads some to believe there might be other apps or features that were not announced. Could be similar to the Youtube app on the first iteration.

Perhaps they were not included because a perfect working demo wasn't ready yet (They still have a month to work out bugs) or because they wanted to have another announcement in two weeks to draw up more hype.

Or it might be nothing...
 
If they were doing this to stop competitors then they would have hid the manual, photos etc. indefinatly like they did with the other stuff, but they didnt, meaning there is something those documents reveal that Apple dosent want people to see yet.
 
i think we make it in to a rumor that MMS/Better camera with optical zoom will be added before the release date and see how many people bite.
 
i think we make it in to a rumor that MMS/Better camera with optical zoom will be added before the release date and see how many people bite.

hey, you never know, we might get lucky and Apple may bite as well

:)
 
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