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You say, "devalued;" I say, "democratized." The shift to digital has made photography available to many people who would have never had a chance to capture their own moments before--and perhaps more importantly, made sharing those moments infinitely easier. I'm sure it wasn't intended this way, but the premise of the original question is rather snobbish.

If someone's Instagram account helps them learn about composition and gives them the supportive feedback they need to move on to better cameras and start learning about ISO and aperture, great. This is not a zero sum game.

For me, learning more about photography has made me value the work of truly good photographers much more. Once upon a time, I would have thought my D800 would make me a pro. Back then, I lacked cognitive complexity in this field. Whereas then I might be able to identify a "good" or "bad" photo, now I understand many shades between those ends, and what goes into different types of photography. For example, what makes a great wedding photo is quite different from what makes a great sports photo. And when I watch interviews on Fstoppers, I get a glimpse of the a world I know is beyond my current abilities.

If anything, I think the democratization of photography has placed more emphasis on the skill of the photographer. Back when cameras were rare, taking just about any daguerreotype was "art." In an age when ANYONE can get passable snapshots at anytime, professionals have to up their game to to get nearly-perfect photos. If that requires a machine gun approach, so be it.

I dare say, the OP's mindset even extends to the camera manufacturers, despite being against their fiscal self-interest. The only reason I can think for Nikon not including scene modes on the D4 and D800 like they do on the D7000 and below is to keep the riffraff out.

When I hear comments like the one above--and photography forums are rife with them--they always seem not so different from the protestations of other industries who seek some form of protection/privilege for an outdated business model rather than adapting to new realities (the RIAA and MPAA come to mind).
 
You say, "devalued;" I say, "democratized." The shift to digital has made photography available to many people who would have never had a chance to capture their own moments before--and perhaps more importantly, made sharing those moments infinitely easier. I'm sure it wasn't intended this way, but the premise of the original question is rather snobbish.

If someone's Instagram account helps them learn about composition and gives them the supportive feedback they need to move on to better cameras and start learning about ISO and aperture, great. This is not a zero sum game.

For me, learning more about photography has made me value the work of truly good photographers much more. Once upon a time, I would have thought my D800 would make me a pro. Back then, I lacked cognitive complexity in this field. Whereas then I might be able to identify a "good" or "bad" photo, now I understand many shades between those ends, and what goes into different types of photography. For example, what makes a great wedding photo is quite different from what makes a great sports photo. And when I watch interviews on Fstoppers, I get a glimpse of the a world I know is beyond my current abilities.

If anything, I think the democratization of photography has placed more emphasis on the skill of the photographer. Back when cameras were rare, taking just about any daguerreotype was "art." In an age when ANYONE can get passable snapshots at anytime, professionals have to up their game to to get nearly-perfect photos. If that requires a machine gun approach, so be it.

I dare say, the OP's mindset even extends to the camera manufacturers, despite being against their fiscal self-interest. The only reason I can think for Nikon not including scene modes on the D4 and D800 like they do on the D7000 and below is to keep the riffraff out.

When I hear comments like the one above--and photography forums are rife with them--they always seem not so different from the protestations of other industries who seek some form of protection/privilege for an outdated business model rather than adapting to new realities (the RIAA and MPAA come to mind).

I loved photography in high school. I shoot a ton of film with a 35mm Minolta Maxxum and had them all developed by local labs because I didn't have the room for, or access to, a dark room. I quit for a while when the digital age started up because I hated not having control over my "editing" and the cost of entry level digital was way too much with the OG Rebel coming in at over $1,000. Eventually when prices came down, I got back into it. Digital really helped me move forward with something that would have otherwise remained out of my reach.
 
You say, "devalued;" I say, "democratized." The shift to digital has made photography available to many people who would have never had a chance to capture their own moments before--and perhaps more importantly, made sharing those moments infinitely easier. I'm sure it wasn't intended this way, but the premise of the original question is rather snobbish.

I have to disagree. I see this question coming up more and more and more as users of iPhone and Android camera apps mislead people into thinking they are actually photographers. I tend to see them as documenters of events. Ask them about the Rule of Thirds or shutter to ISO settings and for the most part they are clueless. However, ask them how to slap on a filter in Instagram and they are all over it...

If someone's Instagram account helps them learn about composition and gives them the supportive feedback they need to move on to better cameras and start learning about ISO and aperture, great. This is not a zero sum game.

Instagram does not teach you photography. It teaches you to push the shutter button and then put on a filter... The feed back you receive from fellow subscribers are for the use of filters rather than an actual photography technique.

For me, learning more about photography has made me value the work of truly good photographers much more. Once upon a time, I would have thought my D800 would make me a pro. Back then, I lacked cognitive complexity in this field. Whereas then I might be able to identify a "good" or "bad" photo, now I understand many shades between those ends, and what goes into different types of photography. For example, what makes a great wedding photo is quite different from what makes a great sports photo. And when I watch interviews on Fstoppers, I get a glimpse of the a world I know is beyond my current abilities.

Finally something we can agree on...

If anything, I think the democratization of photography has placed more emphasis on the skill of the photographer. Back when cameras were rare, taking just about any daguerreotype was "art." In an age when ANYONE can get passable snapshots at anytime, professionals have to up their game to to get nearly-perfect photos. If that requires a machine gun approach, so be it.

If you truly believe this, then you still have no clue about photography and photographers...

I dare say, the OP's mindset even extends to the camera manufacturers, despite being against their fiscal self-interest. The only reason I can think for Nikon not including scene modes on the D4 and D800 like they do on the D7000 and below is to keep the riffraff out.

Did you really type this and hit the Submit Reply key? A real photographer doesn't need the aid of pre-program modes to create art. Surely you can use the Shutter Priority and Aperture Mode when you are trying to define and image or stop the action but the think that Nikon and or Canon does this to keep the riffraff out again shows how little you truly know.

When I hear comments like the one above--and photography forums are rife with them--they always seem not so different from the protestations of other industries who seek some form of protection/privilege for an outdated business model rather than adapting to new realities (the RIAA and MPAA come to mind).

What?
 
Even with all of the modern digital stuff, my best pictures have come straight out my camera with little or no processing. I shoot a Nikon D3 and D40 mostly as single shots. If I wanted to I could shoot at 9fps and process with PS but those shots are never as good as the singles. BTW, I grew up shooting film and still shoot B&W with my old school Maxxum 9000.
 
the media has nothing to do with it .. it's all on the photographer. When I shot film back in the day I thought about my shots because I didn't want to waste frames. Today I think about my shots because I don't want to waste time editing. There a lot of things that help devalue the art form but media type isn't one of them. If you want to talk about something degrading the art of photography just go open a random Facebook profile. :)
 
the media has nothing to do with it .. it's all on the photographer. When I shot film back in the day I thought about my shots because I didn't want to waste frames. Today I think about my shots because I don't want to waste time editing. There a lot of things that help devalue the art form but media type isn't one of them. If you want to talk about something degrading the art of photography just go open a random Facebook profile. :)

When you say media type, do you refer to the equipment, i.e. camera, lens, or electronic media, i.e. Facebook (I hate it), or Instagram (hate it even more than Facebook), or something else?
 
I don't quite get all the hate for instagram. Whilst it is awful in some ways I have found some really interesting people to follow.

It is also a great outlet for sharing some of my photos and it has encouraged me to snap things I find interesting.

I think it's the people that use instagram that most have an issue with but you will find these people on facebook, tumblr, instagram etc and I don't see that many people that claim that their instagram photo's are amazing. Most people just like sharing photo's of their cats etc...

Feel free to rip my instagram feed to shreds but I enjoy it and just browse around the people I don't want to take interest in!
 
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