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You can actually tack on another $80 to the total cost of the 2-year contract route, because AT&T charges a $40 activation fee for each phone on the contract (went up from $36 to $40 recently), whereas for phones added to a Next plan, there is no activation fee at all.

So it's actually even a bit more of a difference; $5,198 for 2-year contract vs. $4,818 for Next.

My luck ran out. I keep getting text messages from ATT saying it's preparing for shipment but the date is listed as 10/31 - 11/11... LOL Oh well, it gives me something to monitor for a month or so. :D
 
In the past, there have been some really, REALLY long lines at the stores and I see this to be no different. I hope living in a less-populated area will equal getting the phone easily in the ATT store on the 19th.

Come oooon logical thinking, don't fail me now!
 
In the past, there have been some really, REALLY long lines at the stores and I see this to be no different. I hope living in a less-populated area will equal getting the phone easily in the ATT store on the 19th.

Come oooon logical thinking, don't fail me now!

Typically low volume areas will not get as much stock allocated. Why would ATT send a ton of phones to a store where they sit.
 
Typically low volume areas will not get as much stock allocated. Why would ATT send a ton of phones to a store where they sit.

They will send some though-enough for whatever demand.

I went to an apple store in Missouri and a college town at that. I walked in right around 1 or 2 in the afternoon, got helped right away and got my 5.

For my 4, I was in a concert-like line in Va.

So I'm just hoping the same here but El Paso is vastly more populated than that MO area but nowhere near the VA area.
 
i have an email from apple saying its been confirmed and delivered on the 19th. is that the only email they send? or is there another one for when its actually being shipped? i have a confirmation but it doesn't mention another notification

sorry if its a dumb question. first time doing it online.

edit: feedback very much appreciated.
 
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Apple's supply tricks are working

I've lost track of how many times I've heard "the 6+ is the big seller," usually followed by "maybe I'll get the 6+ after all. It can't be too big if everyone is going for it!"

Who knows if we'll ever get the real sales numbers, but based on rumors and early wait times, the 6+ inventory was minimal compared to that of the 6, so of course it's harder to get. My title is tongue in cheek: I don't know if Apple intentionally constrained the 6+ supply to generate buzz, maybe they underestimated demand and didn't build enough. That would also fit with rumors of a later 6+ launch. Whatever the cause, the effect among my very tiny sample size is reconsideration of the larger size.

I'm waiting for Anandtech's review and to hold them in hand before I decide on a size. It's unfortunate Apple gimped the 4.7" display and camera, but I'm not sure I can wait for the 6S 4.7" or that Apple won't gimp that one, too. Frankly I'm rather upset that after claiming the iPhone 5's size was "just right," Apple now relegates 4.7" iPhone users to older tech. I'd rather pay a bit more for the 4.7" to get the same features as the 5.5".
 
I've lost track of how many times I've heard "the 6+ is the big seller," usually followed by "maybe I'll get the 6+ after all. It can't be too big if everyone is going for it!"

Who knows if we'll ever get the real sales numbers, but based on rumors and early wait times, the 6+ inventory was minimal compared to that of the 6, so of course it's harder to get. My title is tongue in cheek: I don't know if Apple intentionally constrained the 6+ supply to generate buzz, maybe they underestimated demand and didn't build enough. That would also fit with rumors of a later 6+ launch. Whatever the cause, the effect among my very tiny sample size is reconsideration of the larger size.

I'm waiting for Anandtech's review and to hold them in hand before I decide on a size. It's unfortunate Apple gimped the 4.7" display and camera, but I'm not sure I can wait for the 6S 4.7" or that Apple won't gimp that one, too. Frankly I'm rather upset that after claiming the iPhone 5's size was "just right," Apple now relegates 4.7" iPhone users to older tech. I'd rather pay a bit more for the 4.7" to get the same features as the 5.5".
"Older tech"? What's missing in the 4.7" compared to the 5.5" other than OIS?
 
Bigger phone=bigger battery. There's nothing technologically superior about the Plus's battery.

Apps look better on the plus as well. I see no reason why iMessage can't have picture for contacts on the 6 like it does on the plus.
Again, more screen size = more flexibility with user interface. Nothing to do with "older tech".

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I guess Jobs was wrong about phablets... ;)

Jobs was wrong about a lot of things. So what? That doesn't mean he was wrong about everything.
 
Everyone I think has forgotten about all the supply constrant and production problem rumors surrounding the iPhone 6+. I guarantee Apple did not make as many of these as they did the iPhone 6.

This is also a new product area for them. (Phablet size). As such, and as they have investors to answer to, they will play it safe. See how much demand there is, and then scale up or down production accordingly.

Also, many of the early adaptors will go for the larger phone, but the more popular model worldwide will be the 6 I would be willing to bet. Once people get the 6+ in their hands and use it, some, perhaps even a lot will decide it is way too big. I have spent the past year with a Note 3. Great phone, but it is about as big a phone as I would ever like to handle, and I have fairly decent sized hands. The 6+ is even larger in length at least, and a little in width I think too, but only marginally. It will not be a one handed phone, which many will find too cumbersome to use every day as a phone.

Edit: Also, to those saying you get better battery life on the 6+, I know Apple claims it, but I would wait for real world test to see if true. You never know. Bigger screen with more pixels to push can use up more battery, especially when gaming or watching movies and such. Will need to wait to see.
 
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There may have been production issues with the 6 Plus and Apple may have been conservative on estimating how popular the larger size would be. I'd venture to guess that if they were the same price, the larger phone would attract even more people. I also think that a lot of people who think the 5.5" is too big will change their minds once they hold it in their hands. Even without the one handed mode, it's really not that difficult to use a larger screen phone. Most people would quickly get used to it.

But regardless, the 5S and 5C are still available at reduced prices for those who absolutely don't want anything bigger. I'll even guess that the C model will disappear in another year or two at most. By Apple standards, it wasn't as successful as they thought it would be. The 5S may hang around for a few years too, just like the 4S which you can still by today.
 
Bigger phone=bigger battery. There's nothing technologically superior about the Plus's battery.


Again, more screen size = more flexibility with user interface. Nothing to do with "older tech".

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Jobs was wrong about a lot of things. So what? That doesn't mean he was wrong about everything.

I had tiny Android phones that had contact photo previews in Messages. There's no reason Apple can't have it on the 4.7 inch iPhone.

And yes the Plus has a bigger battery to support the bigger screen. The battery life is also tons better. They didn't have to make the 4.7 inch so thin, yet only increase battery life by just 10%.
 
I've lost track of how many times I've heard "the 6+ is the big seller," usually followed by "maybe I'll get the 6+ after all. It can't be too big if everyone is going for it!"

Who knows if we'll ever get the real sales numbers, but based on rumors and early wait times, the 6+ inventory was minimal compared to that of the 6, so of course it's harder to get. My title is tongue in cheek: I don't know if Apple intentionally constrained the 6+ supply to generate buzz, maybe they underestimated demand and didn't build enough. That would also fit with rumors of a later 6+ launch. Whatever the cause, the effect among my very tiny sample size is reconsideration of the larger size.

I'm waiting for Anandtech's review and to hold them in hand before I decide on a size. It's unfortunate Apple gimped the 4.7" display and camera, but I'm not sure I can wait for the 6S 4.7" or that Apple won't gimp that one, too. Frankly I'm rather upset that after claiming the iPhone 5's size was "just right," Apple now relegates 4.7" iPhone users to older tech. I'd rather pay a bit more for the 4.7" to get the same features as the 5.5".

The only things missing from the 6 are a higher PPI and OIS. Otherwise the phones are pretty much the same. I think there is a legitimate supply question for the 6 Plus. For starters, Apple doesn't have a good idea about the mix since they have never released two "flagship" phones at the same time, and clearly got the mix wrong last year even though the 5c wasn't remotely a flagship. Also, the 6 Plus uses a different screen, so there well could have even supply issues since Apple hasn't sourced a screen with so high a PPI before.
 
Hey Nunyabinez, could you explain this further using my example? Again, this would be a phone for myself and my spouse.

AT&T 2-year contract on October 21 (when our contract expires); shipping time TBD:
$399 per phone = $798 (it say's I'm eligible for a $399 phone on 10/21)
$130 per month for 2 years = $3,120 (this is Mobile Shared plan; are you saying this will go up if under contract?
TOTAL: $3,918


AT&T Next; ships in 3–4 weeks:

$849 per phone = $1,698 (this is $42.45 per phone per month for 20 months)
$130 per month for 2 years = $3,120 (Mobile Shared)
TOTAL: $4,818

Honestly, if the Next plan will save me money -- or not cost me considerably more -- I'll just pre-order the phone now. Thanks in advance.

Yes, you are correct that mobile share plan is a plan based on bringing your own phone or using next to pay for your phone. Your first example mixes plans. You were on a contract and switched to mobile share. They moved you to make your data plan as though you had brought your own phone, presumably as an incentive to get you off the old plan. But as you can see, you are not eligible to contract with another phone yet.

A new plan under contract is $140 for one phone and it would be $40 to add the second. What you are getting now is a $25 per phone discount, but that will go away. Here is the explanation from AT&T:

*Discounted smartphone access charges of $25 on plans lower than 10GB, or $15 on 10GB or higher plans are available with no-annual-service-contract options and for some customers with existing 2-year wireless agreements. If you upgrade to a phone with a 2-year wireless contract, you are no longer eligible for this monthly discount. To receive the discount, upgrade with AT&T NextSM, bring your own smartphone, or pay full price for your smartphone. See att.com/shop/wireless/data-plans.html for details.

You should get your phone now using Next.
 
The only things missing from the 6 are a higher PPI and OIS. Otherwise the phones are pretty much the same.

Battery. I was going to go with the 6, but the extra battery life in the 6+ pushed me that way.

I can wait two months for it. Wish I didn't have to, but I will. No biggie.
 
"Older tech"? What's missing in the 4.7" compared to the 5.5" other than OIS?

Display. The 6 has the same 326 PPI density as the iPhone 4, while the 6+ has 401 PPI which is competitive with Android devices.
 
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