Incredible to running Mojave on MacPro 4,1

Matty_TypeR

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I have a feeling that Mojave will be the last Mac OS to support the 4.1 and 5.1 Mac Pro. once the new Mac Pro surfaces later, they will most likely drop them. but lets hope not!
 
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bookemdano

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I have a feeling that Mojave will be the last Mac OS to support the 4.1 and 5.1 Mac Pro. once the new Mac Pro surfaces later, they will most likely drop them. but lets hope not!
I agree it will probably be the last OFFICIALLY supported macOS version. I don't believe it will be the last UNOFFICIALLY supported version however.
I disagree only because of recent macOS history. Usually Apple doesn't drop Macs from the supported list two years in a row. Nothing stopping them from changing precedent, but I think chances are decent that the cMP will get 10.15.
 
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I have a feeling that Mojave will be the last Mac OS to support the 4.1 and 5.1 Mac Pro. once the new Mac Pro surfaces later, they will most likely drop them. but lets hope not!
I have the same feeling of this will be the last official update for MacOS, but Apple usually keeps the supporting list for few years, so I hope this is not the last Update
 

Matty_TypeR

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I disagree only because of recent macOS history. Usually Apple doesn't drop Macs from the supported list two years in a row. Nothing stopping them from changing precedent, but I think chances are decent that the cMP will get 10.15.
Perhaps an indication will be when the first beta is released for 10.15 Unless your allowed to run beta's but be dropped from the final release. the next beta should tell us.
 

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I disagree only because of recent macOS history. Usually Apple doesn't drop Macs from the supported list two years in a row. Nothing stopping them from changing precedent, but I think chances are decent that the cMP will get 10.15.
Actually, the point I was trying to make should have been more clear and read...

Even if Apple does drop Official Support, I think someone will still find a way for Unofficially supported install to work just as in the past with older cMP's.
 
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Matty_TypeR

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Actually, the point I was trying to make should have been more clear and read...

Even if Apple does drop Official Support, I think someone will still find a way for Unofficially supported install to work just as in the past with older cMP's.
I think you are right, there will be a way around it if apple decide to drop the 4.1 and 5.1 after all they must be the longest supported mac's out there now. the 6.1 will most likely get support along with the new 7.1

one thing this new update has corrected for me was a font issue with safari on one web site. shame they couldn't give us boot screens for the RX580
 
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I have the same feeling of this will be the last official update for MacOS, but Apple usually keeps the supporting list for few years, so I hope this is not the last Update
I think Apple did what many of us thought would not happen. My point proving they can go against the grain when they feel it's in their best interest. Which was telling us all 2009/2010/2012 Mac Pro users that they cannot use FireVault. This seems like a drop of the ball on Apple but I suppose it is better than having our Mac Pros not supported period.

I thought this was not going to happen because I would compare it to a car manufacturer making a new engine and saying hey you guys can put in these new engines for better performance and more features etc etc. However, in order to do so, you must disable all safety air bags. I don't quite agree with a company compromising a key security feature and I don't even use FireVault, it just seems like a bad idea but again, I'm more glad the older Mac Pros are at least supported rather than not at all.
 

bookemdano

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I think it sucks that Apple isn't being that forthcoming about FileVault being completely unavailable on the cMP with Mojave. The way they word it in their support document is that you have to disable it to install Mojave, but some users might be under the impression that they can reactivate it after the installation. And users of the 7950 and 680 (which are on the officially recommended GPU list) won't be able to re-enable it even though their cards are perfectly compatible with it.

If I had purchased a "Mac Edition" GPU I'd be complaining vociferously to Apple about this.
 
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bsbeamer

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They are not even required to support these machines, but still do in this capacity. Also impacts some older iMac models.

Small trade off for latest OS and at least 12-18 months of additional updates. 10.13 probably should have been last OS for 5,1’s but likely only extended to buy time for 7,1.
 

SneakyTLoD

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Windows users don't find it "incredible" to be able to run Windows 10 on a 2009 system.
I find it incredible for Windows 10 to be "running" at any time so you may be a bit wrong there. That os is a terrible example to use in contrast. Linux... sure. Windows 10... nooo. I have windows and dread every time I start it up. I booted into windows tonight and immediately got a forced auto update that screwed up my graphics driver. What a disaster. Constant disaster.
 

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I have Windows 10 on a 4:3 ThinkPad T61 from 2007 I use for automotive work. It was a little tricky finding drivers for everything, but once I did it works great. I put an SSD in it, a T9300 CPU, 8 GB of RAM, and a wireless-AC card.
 
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SneakyTLoD

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I just wish that it stayed running well. I can get it running well but that only lasts so long. I used to love windows when it consistently ran well but that seems like a distant dream.

Back on topic though, even though it wasn't a perfect install, Mojave is running pretty damn well on my upgraded 4,1. Even though it's not supported I'm sure it'll run well on my old ass MacBook too. We will see.
 
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