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[Night Spring]

I keep a lightning cable at the office because occasionally, I fall asleep without plugging in my iPhone or iPad, and I find that the only time I can charge hem back up is at the office.

I think such situations could happen with the Apple watch. So I'd probably end up getting an extra charger to keep at the office.

 

[Piggie]

I keep a lightning cable at the office because occasionally, I fall asleep without plugging in my iPhone or iPad, and I find that the only time I can charge hem back up is at the office.

I think such situations could happen with the Apple watch. So I'd probably end up getting an extra charger to keep at the office.

Exactly

If you wake up late, perhaps overslept, and rush out the door, then think DAM I forgot to put my watch on charge, look at it, 10% left and you will not be back home for another 10 hours, it would be good to think, oh thank god I have a spare charger at work.

Like a puncture repair kit for your bicycle or a spare wheel for your car.
Hopefully you won't need it, but if you do need it, you will be VERY glad you had the forethought to get one just in case.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

I keep a lightning cable at the office because occasionally, I fall asleep without plugging in my iPhone or iPad, and I find that the only time I can charge hem back up is at the office.

I think such situations could happen with the Apple watch. So I'd probably end up getting an extra charger to keep at the office.

But the Watch won't take as long to charge as an iPhone. You can easily charge it to nearly full while showering.

 

[Piggie]

But the Watch won't take as long to charge as an iPhone. You can easily charge it to nearly full while showering.

It all fine and good as long as you are a perfect human being, never make mistakes, and never forget anything ever.

Unfortunately that does not describe 99.999999999999999999999% of the human race

It's like people who say "look after your watch and you won't scratch it"

Well, thank you Einstein for that amazing piece of advice.
I must remember never ever to have any accident in my entire life

You may just as well say, if you wish to keep you car in perfect condition, then don't run into anything. Well Duh!

 

[Night Spring]

Nobody is going to be playing Candy Crush for hours at a time on the Watch when they can do it on the iPhone.

That's like saying why do you need an iPad when you have a laptop. Well, it turns out that some things are more convenient on the iPad than on a laptop, so I find myself using the iPad even though the laptop is sitting right in front of me. We don't know exactly how we will be using the watch yet, but I'm sure once we have it, there will be some uses for it that could be also done on the iPhone but it's better on the watch. It probably won't be playing Candy Crush, but there is sure to be SOMETHING.

Oh, and I think the heart rate sensor is supposed to deplete battery faster when in use. So people who use that function might find they need to top off the watch battery after a workout.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

It all fine and good as long as you are a perfect human being, never make mistakes, and never forget anything ever.

Unfortunately that does not describe 99.999999999999999999999% of the human race

It's like people who say "look after your watch and you won't scratch it"

Well, thank you Einstein for that amazing piece of advice.
I must remember never ever to have any accident in my entire life

You may just as well say, if you wish to keep you car in perfect condition, then don't run into anything. Well Duh!

Even if you make a mistake and forget to charge it overnight, you plug it in while showering and it'll be nearly full by the time it's over because of the tiny battery. May even be at 100% by the time you step out of the door. You're overthinking this and Candy Crush.

 

[Night Spring]

It's like people who say "look after your watch and you won't scratch it"

Well, thank you Einstein for that amazing piece of advice.
I must remember never ever to have any accident in my entire life

You may just as well say, if you wish to keep you car in perfect condition, then don't run into anything. Well Duh!

Exactly.

Luckily, there is an Apple Store in the next block from our office. So I'll buy an extra charger the first day I find I need to charge up the watch mid-day. Then the extra charger will sit in the office for the next time it's needed.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

That's like saying why do you need an iPad when you have a laptop. Well, it turns out that some things are more convenient on the iPad than on a laptop, so I find myself using the iPad even though the laptop is sitting right in front of me. We don't know exactly how we will be using the watch yet, but I'm sure once we have it, there will be some uses for it that could be also done on the iPhone but it's better on the watch. It probably won't be playing Candy Crush, but there is sure to .

Is it not more convenient to read or surf on the iPad rather than the iPhone? Likewise, it'll be more convenient to play Candy Crush on the iPhone than on the Watch.

 

[Night Spring]

Even if you make a mistake and forget to charge it overnight, you plug it in while showering and it'll be nearly full by the time it's over because of the tiny battery. May even be at 100% by the time you step out of the door. You're overthinking this and Candy Crush.

And what if you oversleep and jump into the shower in a hurry and then you come out and realize you didn't plug in the watch?

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Is it not more convenient to read or surf on the iPad rather than the iPhone? Likewise, it'll be more convenient to play Candy Crush on the iPhone than on the Watch.

You are fixating on the Candy Crush example. Forget candy crush. But there will be some thing that has people tapping away on their wrists. We just don't know what it is yet.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

And what if you oversleep and jump into the shower in a hurry and then you come out and realize you didn't plug in the watch?

Then you don't need the Watch after all because you're already late to work regardless of the time and you really don't want to see the "You're fired!" notification on it lest you freak out while driving

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Please understand I am not in any way suggesting under, what many would call normal/typical watch usage the Apple watch will die mid-day.

I am simply saying, it MIGHT be a good idea to have a secondary charger at the other place you spend the majority of time at when you are away from home. That's all.

Understood. My point though is that IF the watch doesn't last all day under a real life use scenario of a working person then it's not a useful product worth owning. Under this circumstance the avg consumer that doesn't wear a watch now anyway is not going to buy a 2nd charger they are going to return the watch.

There are situations where a 2nd charger would be handy, but if its needed just to use the watch on a daily basis then it's a fail. But I do not think that will be the case as Tim Cook has said it will last all day, and I don't think he meant just in standby mode.

 

[camtechman56]

lets try this scenario; you run for a couple hours and listen to music before work, without your phone, because your phone is an extra burden while running. you get back home, take a shower then go to work. since you work a 12hr shift you notice that it is running down. now do you use the charger you conveniently have at work or do you wear a brick the rest of the day? you do not by any means have to buy one, but that is what is meant by "Just in case"

 

[Piggie]

Understood. My point though is that IF the watch doesn't last all under under a real life use scenario of a working person then it's not a useful product worth owning. Under this circumstance the avg consumer that doesn't wear a watch now anyway is not going to buy a 2nd charger they are going to return the watch.

There are situations where a 2nd charger would be handy, but if its needed just to use the watch on a daily basis then it's a fail. But I do not think that will be the case as Tim Cook has said it will last all day, and I don't think he meant just in standby mode.

I have to be honest and say I don't even listen to any sales talk someone like Tim Cook says.
You may as well go into a TV store and ask a salesman which model to buy.
They will tell you what model their boss has asked them to try and push that day.

Likewise, I'm not saying Tim Cook is lying. I just accept he has to build up a picture in people's minds to prepare them for his new product and how HE it expecting you to use it.

Almost to the point of if you don't get the same results it must be something you are doing wrong (using it too much) rather than a fault with the design.

And again, yes, when used as Tim is telling you, you will be using it, or Apple want you to use it, It will last the amount of time they are saying, I'm certain of it.

It's when you don't use it the Officially Designated Way, it will be interesting.

How long it will play a video file for (in the future)
How long it will play music for (right now)
How long say it will last when playing a future thought up watch game non stop.

That's what I will find interesting. What is worst case?

 

[Mascots]

I have to be honest and say I don't even listen to any sales talk someone like Tim Cook says.
You may as well go into a TV store and ask a salesman which model to buy.
They will tell you what model their boss has asked them to try and push that day.

Likewise, I'm not saying Tim Cook is lying. I just accept he has to build up a picture in people's minds to prepare them for his new product and how HE it expecting you to use it.

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IMO Apple is one of the most trustworthy companies when it comes to descriptions of their products, especially their block buster one. Very rarely do they faulter and they make sure to match the expectations that they been set up.

I also rarely see other CEOs of companies running around with their prerelease hardware like Apple's do.

Plus, nearly all of the negative press has been speculative. Don't forget that.

 

[Piggie]

IMO Apple is one of the most trustworthy companies when it comes to descriptions of their products, especially their block buster one. Very rarely do they faulter and they make sure to match the expectations that they been set up.

I also rarely see other CEOs of companies running around with their prerelease hardware like Apple's do.

Plus, nearly all of the negative press has been speculative. Don't forget that.

Yes, I agree.

I would generally trust Apple's official battery life figures, when the device is used in a manner they expect it to be.

 

[Night Spring]

I also rarely see other CEOs of companies running around with their prerelease hardware like Apple's do.

Actually, I believe this is the first time Apple has done this. Usually, their products are kept under tight wraps until a week or two before release. The only ones that were pre-announced months ahead of time was the original iPhone and original iPad. And back then, Jobs and other execs didn't run around carrying iPhones and iPads in public ahead of release.

How long it will play music for (right now)

On iPhones and iPod touch, playing music doesn't take that much battery. I once was playing music on an iPod touch with very low battery, like below 10% if not below 5%, and it kept playing for hours. Be interesting to see how long the watch will last just playing music.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

I have to be honest and say I don't even listen to any sales talk someone like Tim Cook says.
You may as well go into a TV store and ask a salesman which model to buy.
They will tell you what model their boss has asked them to try and push that day.

Likewise, I'm not saying Tim Cook is lying. I just accept he has to build up a picture in people's minds to prepare them for his new product and how HE it expecting you to use it.

Almost to the point of if you don't get the same results it must be something you are doing wrong (using it too much) rather than a fault with the design.

And again, yes, when used as Tim is telling you, you will be using it, or Apple want you to use it, It will last the amount of time they are saying, I'm certain of it.

It's when you don't use it the Officially Designated Way, it will be interesting.

How long it will play a video file for (in the future)
How long it will play music for (right now)
How long say it will last when playing a future thought up watch game non stop.

That's what I will find interesting. What is worst case?

Nope. When a CEO of a publicly held company -- not to mention one with one of the largest market caps in the world -- talks about an unannounced key spec like battery life he is not in "sales mode," but "expectations management mode." The goal is not to overtly sell the item, that comes later, but to keep people's expectation's in check and kill off false rumors of worse battery life.

So Cook very publicly mentions "all day" battery life and then at launch gives a specific # like 27 hours including 4 highly active ones and no one is disappointed b/c it's w/i expectations.

OTOH if the claim was based on 24 hours standby plus 1 active hour just after a presentation of all the things one could do with the watch then Cooks and Apple's credibility goes down hill fast with investors, the press, the public for puffing the good -- the opposite of managing expectations. So unlike your sales clerk, Cook actually has something to lose if he is too glib with his words. But he's not... they are heavily vetted. CEO's don't talk product w/o rehearing with legal first.

And how Apple is expecting you to use it IS how its designed to be used. Anything else and the user has been given notice. This is nothing new. Apple gives use scenarios for all its products when reporting expected battery life, and usually it's on the conservative side.

 

[Piggie]

Nope. When a CEO of a publicly held company -- not to mention one with one of the largest market caps in the world -- talks about an unannounced key spec like battery life he is not in "sales mode," but "expectations management mode."

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And how Apple is expecting you to use it IS how its designed to be used. Anything else and the user has been given notice. This is nothing new. Apple gives use scenarios for all its products when reporting expected battery life, and usually it's on the conservative side.

Honestly I don't disagree with you.

Personally I'm not really keen on hearing this expected timeframe, but that's me.
I would rather have some numbers based upon usage.

What we have to do, in reality is, listen to the CEO tell us one thing, and then wait for user reviews to find out the facts.

iPad lasts say 10 hours officially, but then why does your boys iPad need recharging after he's been playing say Grand theft Auto since he got up and it's only lunchtime. What happened to the so called promised 10 hours?

I'm making those numbers up, but you see what I mean.

Car fuel consumption is the biggest lie, I think we all know that, and it's actually been proved how much of a lie. Nothing to do with Apple, but just saying we can't always accept official numbers.

The only issue, which will be a real issue is how the device is used.

It's know than Apple are holding back what the devs can do right now.
So, the watch will last, let's say, all day when using the type of Apps apple are allowing the devs to write NOW.

That alone does really put up the question of, well how will this day long battery life alter once the devs can do more?

 

[Mascots]

Actually, I believe this is the first time Apple has done this. Usually, their products are kept under tight wraps until a week or two before release. The only ones that were pre-announced months ahead of time was the original iPhone and original iPad. And back then, Jobs and other execs didn't run around carrying iPhones and iPads in public ahead of release.

Wasn't it Jobs who said shortly before launch that he was upset with the iPhone screen getting scratched in his pocket with keys so he swapped out the plastic face for glass?
I'm sure there's a few "Sent from iPhone" emails that exist from before the launch that originated from him. Maybe a photograph or two?

But you're right, the context of publicity is much different here since  Watch is actively exposed and has been shown to the public I'm multiple instances by Tim purposely