Infuse vs Plex

[HDFan]

All audio from the audio tracks of DTS HD MA, DTS:X, TrueHD, translates to Dolby Digital. With loss of sound quality.

My receiver sees DTS-MA when played via an NVidia Shield. The Dolby Digital recoding is an Apple TV "feature" unfortunately. Infuse may have a workaround, but see my comments below.

Although I also wish to hear the original DTS-MA it is a contentious point as to how many people can actually tell the difference. See the heated discussions about "lossless" audio and those who insist that people that 256 Kbps is quite sufficient.

Dolby Vision 8.1 and 8.4 profiles. Playback ISO images and the structure of BluRay/DVDs. Licensed Dolby/DTS audio decoders. All of the above is not available in Plex. And this is a very important functionality.

I'll accept your statement about profiles at face value. I have had no issues with any of my 600 or so MKV's not playing Dolby Vision (when available) via Plex so why is this relevant? I did read the reference about the profiles but it does not say why I should care.

As for Blu-Ray Extras they are handled quite nicely by Plex "featurettes". Have no interest in preserving the structure of the original Blu-Ray. I want to manage the various supplemental videos on a disk so have no interest in .iso files.

Don't undertand the point about DTS decoders.

Assuming your statement about DTS-MA in Infuse went to verify in Infuse my Apple TV. Failed.

1. Infuse main menu took forever to populate
2. Tried to play a movie and just got spinning gear

Likely a setup issue but almost never have that issue with Plex.

3. In Plex for "Bumble Bee" I can ~17 subtitle choices and ~16 audio tracks on the main film page. Didn't see those choices in Infuse.

4. In Plex I use my scanned movie covers to serve as the movie thumbnail as it allows me to see the resolution, edition, whether there is a digital copy, and the back cover of the slipcase. Helps me identify the content source.

Some of these issues might be due to my inexperience with the app.

I am in the process of upscaling my DVDs to 1080p via Topaz. [It makes a big difference in video quality]. Simple thing to do with help from Plex. Sorting my Movies by bitrate allows me to quickly identify them. Don't know of a way to do that in Infuse.

We care about different things in our video player.

 

[Axl2023]

My receiver sees DTS-MA when played via an NVidia Shield. The Dolby Digital recoding is an Apple TV "feature" unfortunately. Infuse may have a workaround, but see my comments below.

Although I also wish to hear the original DTS-MA it is a contentious point as to how many people can actually tell the difference. See the heated discussions about "lossless" audio and those who insist that people that 256 Kbps is quite sufficient.

No. Infuse has built-in audio decoders from Dolby and DTS. They decompose the DTS HD MA audio tracks into channels and transmit them to the receiver. At the same time, there is no loss of quality. There are no built-in licensed audio decoders in Plex. That's a fact. Plex uses the algorithm built into tvOS to compress the audio track in Dolby Digital 5.1. And at the same time, there is a loss of sound quality. There is no loss of sound quality in infuse.

So read more about Dolby Vision 8 in Plex. And then you'll see that Plex from DV 8 takes metadata from the HDR layer, not from the DV layer. As a result, you are not watching in Dolby Vision, but in HDR. But on the TV, Plex pulls up the Dolby Vision bar. This is a hoax. If that's okay with you, fine. I want to see real Dolby Vision, not HDR. This is also an indisputable fact.

As for the ISO, the BluRay structure. We are not talking about your personal or anyone else's preferences here. We are comparing the functionality of Plex and the functionality of infuse as a video player. And if infuse makes it possible to reproduce anything. Whatever is offered to him, he will understand everything and reproduce everything. This is not the case with Plex.

Everything I've written about is not my personal opinion. These are irrefutable reliable facts known to everyone. The fact is that Plex can't. Therefore, there is no need to build your own personal assumptions and try to challenge anything.

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[Axl2023]

Don't undertand the point about DTS decoders.

Exactly. Do not underestimate the importance of having a DTS audio decoder in infuse.

 

[venom600]

Has anyone else noticed that the Plex client is having serious audio sync issues on apple tv? High bitrate rips, low bitrate videos, it doesn't seem to matter, and I never had these issues before. Infuse never seems to have any issues like this and it's much more stable. It just seems like the app has gotten more terrible over the years.

 

[BaggieBoy]

Been on a bit of a journey with my media client usage of late. For a few years I have been using Infuse Pro on a ATV 4K with the media stored on an old Apple 2TB Time Capsule. With the upcoming demise (i.e. support for) the Time Capsule in the next iteration of OS, I decided to bite the bullet and invest in a proper NAS. So I've now got a Ugreen DXP2800 with two 4TB hard drives in Raid 1, and two 1TB M.2 SSDs doing read and write caching. It was a breeze to set up and once I managed to copy over all my media I was good to go again. I used a WebDAV connection in Infuse to access the files on the NAS.

My AV setup is a Sony 55" UHD TV with the audio being handled by a Denon AVR configured as a 5.1.2 Atmos speaker system. All was well until one of my favourite artists released a new album in download format only. This wasn't just any old download however, audio was available in stereo, 5.1 and binaural FLAC files and well as MKV file that contained all the above plus Atmos versions.

So I got the download and started playing the Atmos versions, but they didn't sound very impressive. Did some diagnostics and found one of rear speakers wasn't working (simple loose wire) but when I played a tone that should have heard on the one of the front height speakers, the tone came out the rear speaker instead. At first I assumed the AVR was misconfigured but it wasn't. That's when I first found out about the audio passthrough (or lack of) issue that the ATV has.

So I decided to investigate using a different media player that could play my Atmos files as they were intended. To this end I purchased a used Nvidia TV Shield Pro. Decided to use the Plex Media client on the Shield, so to feed it I installed Plex Media Server on the Ugreen NAS. Took me a while to get it set up but figured it out eventually. Plex on the Shield works well and I finally get proper Atmos playback on all media.

So the ATV and Infuse will probably not get a lot of use going forward, much prefer using the Shield/Plex at the moment.

 

[Audit13]

I have a Shield Pro as well and went with a Ugoos running Coreelec and AVDVPlus r7 to get 100% FEL support and lossless.

I found that I didn't need Plex since Kodi has support for SMB access to my NAS.

 

[stikle]

I've got 3 Shield Pros, an AppleTV, Chromecast, and a lifetime Plex license. I don't remember the last time I turned on the AppleTV or CC. The Shield Pros all just work with Plex and my media library. Dolby Vision, un-modified TrueHD Dolby Atmos & EAC Atmos as well as HDR & DTS:X all just work properly with Plex.

I've got 90TB total space in my Synology NAS, which is running Plex Media Server. I paid the monthly fee for Plex for so many years it just made sense to buy the lifetime.

In my house, in my configuration, everything just works, which is what I need at this point in life.

That's also the perfect time to mess with something else like Infuse. No big deal if it doesn't work out.

 

[stikle]

Well, I installed Infuse on my AppleTV 4K, connected it to my NAS and could browse my library.

Infuse wouldn't play a single media I tried without upgrading to Infuse Pro. Not even a 3 Day trial offer.

Correction - It played a 480p video, but nothing higher res.

What kind of model is that? You have to pay for it to even try it? Naw...

Plex on my nVidia Shield Pro is still the perfect solution in my house. Everything I need just works.

 

[McScooby]

Well, I installed Infuse on my AppleTV 4K, connected it to my NAS and could browse my library.

Infuse wouldn't play a single media I tried without upgrading to Infuse Pro. Not even a 3 Day trial offer.

Correction - It played a 480p video, but nothing higher res.

What kind of model is that? You have to pay for it to even try it? Naw...

Plex on my nVidia Shield Pro is still the perfect solution in my house. Everything I need just works.

Colour me confused you've paid for a Plex pass (after paying monthly to no doubt try aspects of Plex) but then compare it to the free version of Infuse & complain about having to pay even the monthly for Pro?

Infuse excels at some DV content, sound codecs not found on Plex & general speed,

Plex doesn't go away by using Infuse, Infuse fills the gaps.

 

[mtbdudex]

No. Infuse has built-in audio decoders from Dolby and DTS. They decompose the DTS HD MA audio tracks into channels and transmit them to the receiver. At the same time, there is no loss of quality. There are no built-in licensed audio decoders in Plex. That's a fact. Plex uses the algorithm built into tvOS to compress the audio track in Dolby Digital 5.1. And at the same time, there is a loss of sound quality. There is no loss of sound quality in infuse.

So read more about Dolby Vision 8 in Plex. And then you'll see that Plex from DV 8 takes metadata from the HDR layer, not from the DV layer. As a result, you are not watching in Dolby Vision, but in HDR. But on the TV, Plex pulls up the Dolby Vision bar. This is a hoax. If that's okay with you, fine. I want to see real Dolby Vision, not HDR. This is also an indisputable fact.

As for the ISO, the BluRay structure. We are not talking about your personal or anyone else's preferences here. We are comparing the functionality of Plex and the functionality of infuse as a video player. And if infuse makes it possible to reproduce anything. Whatever is offered to him, he will understand everything and reproduce everything. This is not the case with Plex.

Everything I've written about is not my personal opinion. These are irrefutable reliable facts known to everyone. The fact is that Plex can't. Therefore, there is no need to build your own personal assumptions and try to challenge anything.

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what language is this ?

 

[sparksd]

what language is this ?

Russian Cyrillic script.

 

[stikle]

Colour me confused you've paid for a Plex pass (after paying monthly to no doubt try aspects of Plex) but then compare it to the free version of Infuse & complain about having to pay even the monthly for Pro?

Infuse excels at some DV content, sound codecs not found on Plex & general speed,

Plex doesn't go away by using Infuse, Infuse fills the gaps.

Ok, you are now Purple.

I am aware of all of this. And yes, I actually purchased a lifetime Plex pass after paying for YEARS of monthly subscription.

And no, what I'm complaining about is that I can't even TRY Infuse for free without paying for a month, which I am disinclined to do at this time. Most other apps I've tried at least let you test functionality for a few days. I couldn't even play an old school 1080p Bluray (that I ripped myself and plays fine in Plex) without getting the pro package.

There is not a single thing Plex won't do in my use case scenario. I was just curious what all the fuss was about regarding Infuse's awesomeness.

Luckily, I don't have any gaps that need filling in my home theater.

 

[McScooby]

Ok, you are now Purple.

I am aware of all of this. And yes, I actually purchased a lifetime Plex pass after paying for YEARS of monthly subscription.

And no, what I'm complaining about is that I can't even TRY Infuse for free without paying for a month, which I am disinclined to do at this time. Most other apps I've tried at least let you test functionality for a few days. I couldn't even play an old school 1080p Bluray (that I ripped myself and plays fine in Plex) without getting the pro package.

There is not a single thing Plex won't do in my use case scenario. I was just curious what all the fuss was about regarding Infuse's awesomeness.

Luckily, I don't have any gaps that need filling in my home theater.

You can lead a horse to water....

 

[stikle]

You can lead a horse to water....

....but if the horse has to pay to drink even a drop of water, it's not going to.

 

[McScooby]

....but if the horse has to pay to drink even a drop of water, it's not going to.

Free InFuse Player?

Thank you. I also see from related posts below like here: What exactly is the free version supposed to do? - that it looks like it’s also related to me attempting to stream these .MKV files via SMB share. I’ll try the app for the monthly $1.99 cost to see if it will meet my needs. Thank you!

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