Initial Impressions on TomTom in Comparison to Navigon

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  1. Vandam500 macrumors 68000

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    Just got back from a trip (1 hour 30 minutes round trip). I have had Navigon since it came out and last night I got TomTom. My impressions/quick comparison about TomTom in comparison to Navigon are the following:

    Pros:

    -Awesome and Easy to Use Interface
    -Good Connection (No signal issues whatsoever)
    -Map looks great!
    -Can see list of directions (Navigon does not have this)
    -Plenty of Options (Voices,Route Planning,etc)
    - Lots of POI's

    Cons:

    -If playing music from iPod it completely pauses the music to give directions (Unlike Navigon which lowers the music's volume and then resumes)
    -It doesn't tell you things like "Continue this road for 10 miles". Just tells you turn left/right and thats it. (Navigon does)
    -It shows speed limit but it doesn't warn you that you are going too fast (With Navigon it says caution and you choose when you want it to warn you)
    -Got a little lost when arriving at the destination but then found it's way (Has yet to happen with Navigon)
    -30 dollars more expensive then Navigon at the moment

    All in all, although TomTom has a nicer looking interface,Navigon has a few more options, is cheaper, works just as good (if not better) and has TTS coming out soon while there is no word on if TomTom will add it anytime soon.

    My recommendation at the moment: Navigon
     
  2. iSimx macrumors 6502

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    thanks for the pros and cons! I'm now tempted towards navigon! sounds awesome
     
  3. catskinsox macrumors member

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    I actually wish Navigon had the *option* of doing this. When listening to music, it's fine to just lower the volume. When listening to an audiobook, however, I would prefer it pause so I don't miss anything.

    A toggle button for choosing pause or lower volume at the least. Even better, if it's an audiobook or a podcast, pause. If it's music, lower volume.
     
  4. odelay macrumors 6502

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    I'm glad I went with Navigon rather than wait for TomTom. Based on the impressions of TT so far it's looking more and more like the right decision, especially with the news of the upcoming features due for Navigon. So far, it's been flawless for me, giving me spot on directions on various trips in the UK over the past month. Can't wait for the TTS and iPod integration features, it looks awesome.
     
  5. ashley1496 macrumors regular

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    Sorry I'm a dummy but what is TTS? And does Navigon not offer the iPod integration features already?

    Thanks, I'm leaving for a trip tomorrow and debating on which to buy. :)
     
  6. DenniZ macrumors 6502a

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    TTS is text to speech, Navigon at the moment can read out motorways and A roads. E.g M6 and A1. But TTS means it will be able to read out the full street name.

    As for the iPod integration at the moment you can use the small controller popup to change songs but Navigon are letting you go into the iPod style interface to choose playlists and artists without leaving the app.
     
  7. MBHockey macrumors 68040

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    What do you guys use for Navigon's routes? Optimum? Fast? I think the only thing I prefer on TomTom is the routes it uses.
     
  8. DenniZ macrumors 6502a

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    I use optimum, i think it chooses a balance just right.
     
  9. curly14 macrumors regular

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    Been using Optimum seems to work good just waiting on traffic re-route and TTS for streets coming out on 1.2

    A nice feature for Navigon would be freeway/street view of traffic flow Verizon Nav has it or something like Inrix Traffic app does anyone else have any suggestions
     
  10. jcde7ago macrumors 6502

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    Hands down, in their current states, Navigon absolutely blows TomTom out of the water; TomTom came late to the party and brought a 12-pack of Nati while Navigon came early to pregame with 2 kegs of Blue Moon. ;)

    Seriously though, Navigon has the edge in both feature set and price.

    Pros of Navigon:
    -Lane Assist Pro = know which lane you're supposed to be in
    -RealityView Pro = know how a highway will junction, helps you stay in the right lanes
    -Is able to read out Highway names via voice, how many miles till an exit, when to keep left or right, etc., and not JUST "turn left (or turn right)."
    -Navigate to any address from your contacts
    -Audible warnings if you're speeding
    -Is the most accurate compared to TomTom in terms of accurately portraying where you are on the road - the app will sometimes "push" you ahead on its own (meaning on the map) based on your speed/heading to make sure your location on the map is accurate to your relative location on the road. I've noticed that TomTom maintains the lag inherent with the iPhone GPS, and is slightly behind compared to Navigon.

    Cons of Navigon:
    -Street names are somewhat, though not extremely, hard to read (and small, but i guess this con is negated when TTS comes out in the 1.2 update).
    -No step-by-step listing of your route - there is no explanation for this. Even the Google Maps app has this...don't know why they chose to leave this out.

    and

    Pros of TomTom:
    -Has a nice, clean interface. Lots of route options, voice options, POI's. Maps are sleek looking and slightly easier to read than Navigon's. Traversing the menus are also a bit faster than Navigon's.
    -Has step-by-step listing of your current route

    Cons:
    -Everything it lacks that Navigon has
    -When it loses GPS lock, instead of continuing your route like Navigon, it will *sometimes* "jump" your map on screen like it has completely lost you and unnecessarily re-calculate your route (did this to me in the middle of downtown SF :mad:).
    -No announcement of text-to-speech yet
    -Costs $30 more, plus could be even more $$$ if you're looking to buy the optional mount (in reality they should slash the price to $60-70 and use that extra $30 in savings to give people a chance to buy a non-TomTom car mount).

    So again, as of right now, there really is no comparison between the two apps. As far as reliably navigating you to your destination, both work great (including GPS signal lockons and all that - pretty on par with each other). In terms of bang for your buck though, and with all the nifty features Navigon is already planning on rolling out with 1.2 - TomTom has absolutely nothing but name brand popularity going for it right now.

    We'll give TomTom the benefit of the doubt to improve their app, but they are lagging really bad and I don't expect them to catch up to the feature set of MobileNavigator anytime soon with the way Navigon has been churning out new features with their updates....
     
  11. tboooe macrumors regular

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    Hey I like Nati Light. It supplied all my nutrition during college. I guess that means I will be getting TomTom....:) In all seriousness, the announcement of the TTS pushed me over the edge. I will buying Navigon tonight when I get home.
     
  12. FearlessFreep macrumors 6502a

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    I realize you're talking about a windshield mount/clip here, but you bring up a good point - what's to prevent various third parties from embedding a GPS chip in a mount and selling it for less than TomTom? Not to mention if a GPS-added mount is even necessary.

    Tom Tom made a critical error of focusing on hardware in a software dominated platform. The entire model is based on Applications, not Hardware. As such their application appears to have suffered as a result of the split strategy. And more importantly, the delay in release served to demonstrate that a GPS-mount was not required to do TBT on the iPhone. They were then left scrambling, and hurried the app release out while playing catch up.

    To their credit, at least they didn't exclude themselves from the market like Garmin (major FAIL).
     
  13. ddrueckhammer macrumors 65816

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    @JCDE7AGO

    Good synopsis. I think that all those navigation options and cleaner interface/maps on TomTom trump some of the features you list for Navigon though. Lane assist is OK but TomTom gives auditory queues about what lane you need to be in so it isn't that big of a deal. Reality view is a pretty useless feature IMO, it looks cool but don't think its that necessary. You don't mention that TomTom has a lot of different voices, map colors, IQRoutes or whatever its called, newer/better maps and POIs, and might have the option to do $10 per quarter map updates (which would be good).

    You are right though, right now Navigon has the advantage due to cost but if TomTom can get TTS out and Navigon raises their price at the end of the month I think the conclusion could just as easily be TomTom is the better app.

    The one big thing is that Navigon fudges you location a bit to compensate for lag and TomTom doesn't. It makes for an overall more fluid experience.
     
  14. FearlessFreep macrumors 6502a

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    Disagree on Lane Assist and Reality View. I've been in situations before with the Garmin Nuvi and still been confused as to which sign I should follow because the turns are so close to each other. 'Exit right' or 'stay in left lane' doesn't help if there's three choices. Reality view assists in that it shows you the exact wording on the sign that you need to follow. There are a lot of confusing junctions for highways and any additional information is helpful. It was one of the things that drew me to these apps.
     
  15. jcde7ago macrumors 6502

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    Well, to start off:

    Nitpicking on UI will of course be a personal preference type of deal. Some people prefer Navigon's UI to TomTom's, and vice versa.

    Also, i am fairly certain that I did mention that TomTom had a lot of different voices and all of that - the sentence in my initial post read exactly like this: "Lots of route options, voice options, POI's..."

    As for color options of the TomTom maps, night/day mode is good enough for me with Navigon - everything on the map already has different colors already for Navigon (and even the POI's have their own distinct brand-name colors, like fast food logos and whatnot), so i don't really care if i have the option to change the color of the road i am driving on like on TomTom. Color options on TomTom maps don't really help me get to my destination any better...functionality > appearance.

    To go on and claim that TomTom has newer/better maps, again, would be kind of foolish - Navigon uses NavTeq maps owned by Nokia, which is actually the market leader in SATNAV maps where as TomTom uses their own TeleAtlas maps. "Newer and better" would be fairly relative in this case, as some people would prefer one over the other. Could one really prove unless one traversed every road in the US and Canada if Navigon or TomTom had the "newer" maps? Also, no offense, but if you didn't know already, all "IQRoutes" does is give you the option of choosing the fastest route to your destination - Navigon has this as well, it has about 4-5 options actually, a "Fast(est)" and "Optimal" route being a couple among them along with options for what types of roads, etc. to eliminate along your route.

    I disagree with you on the necessity of RealityView and LaneAssist, however - both apps do prompt you via voice to "keep left," but Navigon actually will tell you which HIGHWAY/EXIT to keep left on - and this is extremely important when driving in unfamiliar territories where there is a huge junction - keep left, sure, but what if there are 6 lanes merging and three different highways about to divide - exactly which "left lane" are you supposed to be on? With Navigon, it not only tells you the exact exit to take, but shows you exactly which lane(s) to be in with the correct overhead sign displayed.

    Finally, I think you misunderstood the whole purpose of Navigon's "fudging of location." All Navigon does is, based on your relative speed/heading, it maintains your route and eliminates lag - that way, wherever you are on the map is almost entirely accurately displayed with where you are on the road. IT doesn't "fudge it up" at all - in fact, it keeps it extremely accurate. With TomTom, i'd have already passed the turn I was supposed to turn on, simply because the vehicon on the map lagged to where I actually was on the road - Navigon compensates for that and is almost always virtually spot on. Navigon is actually much, much more seamless and fluid than TomTom's IMHO. To be fair though, it's not the TomTom app's fault for this - the iPhone GPS as I mentioned above has an inherent lag when the GPS unit has to tell the OS the relative location. It's just that Navigon has found a way to keep everything in-step.

    IF you really think that price is the only thing that sets these two apart, then you're very much entitled to your opinion. But in my opinion, Navigon has a much better feature set and, while some prefer the looks of TomTom, I am quite alright with the looks of Navigon - I prefer the sleekiness of the black UI, and I absolutely prefer the functionality of my GPS rather than the looks.
     
  16. johnntd macrumors member

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    TT sucks

    It does not matter how nice of an interface TT has, it sucks big here in California. Their map database is horrible, at least 7 years old. I've wasted a couple hundreds bucks on TT before and will never do it again.

     
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  18. MBHockey macrumors 68040

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    After using TomTom for the last two days, I really have no idea what possessed me to purchase it since I was already so happy with Navigon.

    The good news is I wrote to Apple and complained about the lack of trial periods for pricey apps (I really didn't think this argument would work, but it was worth a shot) and they refunded me the $99.00 for the TomTom app.

    Navigon is already good, and only looks to be getting better. I got it at the sale price of $69.00, so it feels like an absolute steal. Especially since it allowed me to eBay my Garmin StreetPilot c330 for $90 :D

    Now, if only Navigon could add the ability to see a detailed view of the route beforehand, along with the ability to tweak which roads you want to use (like TT) along with making the road names more legible, I'd be completely satisfied.
     
  19. ddrueckhammer macrumors 65816

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    Your entitled to your opinion but I have used both apps extensively and despite the aforementioned niceties of Navigon. I prefer TomTom mainly because is just has more routing features and much more legible maps. Also, I agree that the black interface is more slick but TomTom's interface is more polished. That said, given the price difference Navigon is probably the more rational choice.

    By fudging, I just mean that it is guessing where you are based on speed relative location. It is more fluid for sure but I still wish it were possible for it to just use the actual data and be accurate. Maybe the TomTom dock will enable this and won't be too expensive...

    Also, I claimed that TomTom has better POIs/Maps because I have found addresses/POIs that don't exist on Navigon and they do on TomTom. I'm sure this is dependent on area though. You can't dispute that TomTom's maps are newer than Navigon's though.
     
  20. jcde7ago macrumors 6502

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    We'll agree to disagree, sure, but at least you admit that the more rational choice is Navigon given the grand scheme of things.

    Also, just so we're clear, the way that Navigon handles the location of your vehicon isn't "guessing"; technically, it is being MORE accurate and using real time data to project where you are because, given the lag with the iPhone GPS, SATNAV apps would never accurately portray where you are on the road unless they add a way to compensate for that lag. Navigon does this. TomTom doesn't do this, hence, it's actually reporting a delayed location when you look on your map. That isn't accurate at all.

    Also, I have found a few POI's on both apps that the other does not have. So I can't speak for the status of POI's, as both have their shortcomings; it's also unrealistic for ANY app to conceivably hold every single POI of every single town and city. It's just not gonna happen.

    And again, I CAN dispute that TomTom has newer maps, because both of the apps lack 2 roads in my town that were re-routed in the past year, and so far, both apps have gotten me to my destinations with the same roads. Unless there is actual, concrete data on the dates the maps for both apps were developed, I won't go on an assumption that TomTom's maps are newer with a blind statement.
     
  21. Khryz macrumors 6502a

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    Wow, mostly everyone here is hating on TomTom and going with Navi. I don't have any but I waited for TT to come out to make a decision. So far, from what I am gathering here is to go with the Navigon.

    I just wish, as someone already noted, that Apple allowed for trial periods for these pricey apps. I doubt writing to Apple would work everytime, would it?
     
  22. Rat-Boy macrumors 65816

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    I don't know what is more impressive.

    Your review, or the fact that you were willing to spend $170 for the rights to write said review!

    Either way, well done! :D
     
  23. Vandam500 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Rofl!!! Well, Its only 1 time payment so why not :p
     
  24. javaGuru macrumors 6502a

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    I purchased the TomTom app as soon as it came out and have been very impressed with it so far. I have not had a chance to try NaviGon yet but just might have to check it out since everyone thinks so highly of it. The screenshots of it in another thread look very impressive. I also have AT&T Navigator app and like it as well. Thanks for all the reviews guys.
     
  25. Vandam500 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    The best thing about the AT&T Navigator is that its maps are real time but it was kind of slow for me because of that I guess and that it has Text to Speech.
     

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