http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-330M.22437.0.html
i was looking at the benchmarks and they are higher, i was surprised too
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http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-330M.22437.0.html
i was looking at the benchmarks and they are higher, i was surprised too
Now that's very interesting.
I wonder what Alienware will update in the M11x. Optimus looks like a sure bet for this summer. The Core i5 UM parts are priced to replace the SU4100/SU7300 processors. Maybe it'll be the entire platform even at this early stage. It's a fairly new product.
ASUS and Apple are having many product collisions since they're offering very similar products. ASUS has the edge in price and warranty but sadly I have to side with Apple for what they offer.
The Best Buy models of the M11x are interesting since they do offer the upgraded components for less than what Dell/Alienware charges online for BTO. I was considering it as a companion system to my Macbook and Core i5 750 desktop. Though I might be better off just replacing my Macbook with the new Macbook Pro 13".
Same here.
We are waiting for a 13" or MacBook Air with matte display to replace our 12" Powerbook. We don't care if we have to pay extra for the option. It is a must-have.
Still waiting...
To any fanboy out there who thinks, for a second, that keeping the C2D in the 13" line is defensable in any way shape or form needs to be beaten.
This is a 2 year old technology that is being shoved down our throats with todays prices. I can get a high end PC with an i3 processor, more RAM, better resolution, and a better graphics processor for less money.
I won't, because I can't stand PC's, but I could. There is no excuse for Apple on this one. None. Intel doesn't even list the C2D on their website any more. It's obsolete. A joke. Pathetic...
This is a 2 year old technology that is being shoved down our throats with todays prices. I can get a high end PC with an i3 processor, more RAM, better resolution, and a better graphics processor for less money.
I won't, because I can't stand PC's, but I could. There is no excuse for Apple on this one. None. Intel doesn't even list the C2D on their website any more. It's obsolete. A joke. Pathetic...
The i3/i5 embedded integrated chips shut off whenever there is a discrete graphic card. The actual chip is probably around 25W while with the integrated it goes to 35W. Interesting enough, the notebook review i poitned to earlier got better battery life with discrete than integrated. reason unknown.
it's said that nvidia made the 320 just for the 13" laptop. I don't see why nvidia couldn't have made it discrete instead of integrated. isn't the only difference the shared vRAM?
anyway, i agree they would have to redesign the logic board for the i3. the thing is, I think Intel will follow this two chip design for the rest of their mobile lives. it's popular and coupled with nvidia's optimus, it's a good sell too. Eventually Apple will have to realize this and either move to AMD or redesign with intel (i guess they're hoping Intel's integrated solution would be better in the future, but that's a gamble).
Just sounds like they know it's a problem, but don't want to fix it unless absolutely necessary.
I take it the anti-glare models don't have the glass in front of the screen.
Is there any decrease in structural rigidity without this glass? I would assume so but is it significant?
Is there any decrease in structural rigidity without this glass? I would assume so but is it significant?
I don't get it
Are you trying to be helpful and warning others not to buy this product? Is that your motivation? Or do you also go on Ford's website and explain why Ford's not as good as a Honda because of ----
I just don't understand why, if you don't like a product, and don't want to use it, you feel the need to tell the world about your particular phobias and psychological issues with it.
If I'm happy eating pears, do you really need to bombard me with 'why oranges are better than pears'?
All I ask is, what is your motivation for posting? To educate about your personal opinions? To find friends? To practice writing for PC Week?
I appreciate your point of view. Thanks for sharing, I guess.
Are you trying to be helpful and warning others not to buy this product? Is that your motivation? Or do you also go on Ford's website and explain why Ford's not as good as a Honda because of ----
I just don't understand why, if you don't like a product, and don't want to use it, you feel the need to tell the world about your particular phobias and psychological issues with it.
If I'm happy eating pears, do you really need to bombard me with 'why oranges are better than pears'?
All I ask is, what is your motivation for posting? To educate about your personal opinions? To find friends? To practice writing for PC Week?
I appreciate your point of view. Thanks for sharing, I guess.
Keep in mind, the 13" MBP used to be a plain old 13" Macbook. The name change is confusing, but this kind of keeps the difference in spirit.
+ lol at the whiners comparing these to PC's. Keep in mind we used to have "CAN I HAZ POWERBOOK G5 NEXT TUESDAY?" posts, and the Powerbook only gained like 200mhz in speed (with the EXACT same chip) for 2-3 years. Do you know how crappy it was running Logic 6 on a Powerbook G4?
So...
I understand your anger. I would rccmnd not buying one. That should make you feel better.
I understand your anger. I would rccmnd not buying one. That should make you feel better.
Apparently Apple plans to use up there inventory of the Core 2 duos before upgrading the 13" to i5 i7 processor.
I'll just wait until they finally update the 13" to i5-i7 and jump on a 64GB 3G iPad in the interim.
Apple doesn't seem to realize that the 13" is a better form factor to haul around all day at a university.
I'll just wait until they finally update the 13" to i5-i7 and jump on a 64GB 3G iPad in the interim.
Apple doesn't seem to realize that the 13" is a better form factor to haul around all day at a university.
I guess it's too soon for USB 3.0 as few chipsets support it. Maybe it will be included in the next update. Ditto for SATA-6.
Hopefully there will be an update this fall.
Hopefully there will be an update this fall.
Im a bit curious, how come so many of you choose the matte display over the glossy?..
Im a photographer and have always had external monitors with matte display. However, i have also had a 15" and 17" MBP with glossy display. I had no trouble calibrating the MBP and edit my work on glossy. That said, i never do edit with lots of light in the room or behind or above me, that can make reflexes in the screen.
Now I've decided to get a new 15" i7 with the hi-res display, but cant decide if I should try the matte display. My concern is, that it will be my only computer, so i will use it for both games and movies too and for that i enjoy glossy. I also like the deeper black tones on glossy.
Care to shed some light on this, so i can decide?..
Im a photographer and have always had external monitors with matte display. However, i have also had a 15" and 17" MBP with glossy display. I had no trouble calibrating the MBP and edit my work on glossy. That said, i never do edit with lots of light in the room or behind or above me, that can make reflexes in the screen.
Now I've decided to get a new 15" i7 with the hi-res display, but cant decide if I should try the matte display. My concern is, that it will be my only computer, so i will use it for both games and movies too and for that i enjoy glossy. I also like the deeper black tones on glossy.
Care to shed some light on this, so i can decide?..
Tough decisions
(Enough of the Mac vs. the World discussion, let's get down to some serious discussion on important topics...)
These are indeed some perplexing decisions. I like SSD a lot, but can't afford to add $1300 to price in order to get 512GB. Music library is over 320GB already (all legit, I swear...) and I would like to carry it with me, but a reasonably priced SSD won't let me.
So I can get small SSD and use external drive for music library, but then am limited to USB 2.0 speeds, which is painful. Or, I can use an ExpressCard/34 adapter with USB 3.0 and an external drive, but that forces me to the 17" machine. In which case I lose the SD slot. This is really a freakin' hard decision! I'm not emotionally mature enough to handle it... ;-)
Then there's the glare vs. anti-glare decision. Don't like having glare on my screen, but really like the higher saturation and intensity of color using traditional screen. Anti-glare seems to limit color intensity. Or is that just my impression?
And I know it's supposed to be a great chip, but the i7 without Quad Core seems a bit limited to me. I have the 27" iMac with Quad Core i7 and really love it. I use iStat Menu to monitor my core usage and love having HandBrake chugging away, a VMware windows running Windows 7 (for games only, I swear...) and still seeing a couple of my cores available for basic processing. Why can't I have Quad Core i7 in my MBP? I'd even give up an hour of battery life for it.
So go elsewhere to bitch about Macs, Apple, etc. and tell me WHAT TO BUY! Must...order...new Mac........ Must...order...soooonnnnn.......
(Enough of the Mac vs. the World discussion, let's get down to some serious discussion on important topics...)
These are indeed some perplexing decisions. I like SSD a lot, but can't afford to add $1300 to price in order to get 512GB. Music library is over 320GB already (all legit, I swear...) and I would like to carry it with me, but a reasonably priced SSD won't let me.
So I can get small SSD and use external drive for music library, but then am limited to USB 2.0 speeds, which is painful. Or, I can use an ExpressCard/34 adapter with USB 3.0 and an external drive, but that forces me to the 17" machine. In which case I lose the SD slot. This is really a freakin' hard decision! I'm not emotionally mature enough to handle it... ;-)
Then there's the glare vs. anti-glare decision. Don't like having glare on my screen, but really like the higher saturation and intensity of color using traditional screen. Anti-glare seems to limit color intensity. Or is that just my impression?
And I know it's supposed to be a great chip, but the i7 without Quad Core seems a bit limited to me. I have the 27" iMac with Quad Core i7 and really love it. I use iStat Menu to monitor my core usage and love having HandBrake chugging away, a VMware windows running Windows 7 (for games only, I swear...) and still seeing a couple of my cores available for basic processing. Why can't I have Quad Core i7 in my MBP? I'd even give up an hour of battery life for it.
So go elsewhere to bitch about Macs, Apple, etc. and tell me WHAT TO BUY! Must...order...new Mac........ Must...order...soooonnnnn.......
Apple designed the 13" logicboards after the original Unibody Macbooks to only handle a 2 chip system (processor + platform controller/IGP). There aren't even solder points to add VRAM. It's a very tiny logicboard.
nVidia doesn't have a license beyond the front side bus. They can't make solutions for Arrandale/Clarksfield.
You'd be stuck with Arrandale's IGP or a Core 2 + nVidia solution.
I was really hoping to buy into something a little more future-proof with usb 3.0 I'm a video editing professional and the added speed of upgrading my media drives to usb 3.0 would help a ton when dealing with HD video. Or at least give me back my expresscard slot so I can buy a usb 3.0 adapter.
I almost feel like Apple has abandoned the creative professionals that kept them afloat during their rougher users and now they've all but forgot about us as they are becoming more and more a consumer-oriented company.
I almost feel like Apple has abandoned the creative professionals that kept them afloat during their rougher users and now they've all but forgot about us as they are becoming more and more a consumer-oriented company.
100% correct.
If you guys recall, before this refresh, Apple gave you the option to have a 15" MacBook Pro without a dedicated graphics card (aka just the 9400M onboard).
But if you notice, now you can only buy a combo MacBook Pro 15" (dedicated+onboard) because of the Intel agreement.
Hence the huge price jump between the 13" and the 15". Last year, it was only a couple hundred dollars more for a 15". This year, you have no choice but to have dedicated+onboard.
I'd get the SSD from somewhere else. Get the base HDD and get a good SSD from OCZ, Crucial, or OWC. I'm not sure the SSD Apple supplies is exactly the fastest.
The complainers really are out in force over the update. Looks like another Apple hardware update, solid with occasional touches of inspiration, overpriced for certain parts but continuing to build on a great product.
I would agree with that. It's an incremental upgrade on the 13, for a reason. Some may not like it, but there you go. It's an interim solution and will change in about 6 months (it will have to). I suspect this is to give Apple time to design a discrete solution that will fit on the current logic board footprint.
The 15" and 17" look like they are what Apple wanted to do. I expect great things from the 13" in 6 months.